You should be facepalming at your own argument. Seriously arguing that he was hiding his powers, while using his powers? What kind of idiotic idea would that be? He would have to be even more stupid than that movie made him appear to be. Sorry, but your argument doesn't hold water. Wow, I just can't get over that, hiding his powers while using them...what a thought process.
Using his powers to save people moron. Are you really too stupid not to have picked up that his whole moral dilemma throughout the whole movie on if he should use his powers or not. There was even a scene when Cavill went to a church and asked the priest about it. Is not thinking and not having much thought process to begin with part of how you watch movies? Sure would explain a lot.
His strength comes from his exposure to the yellow sun, not training.
Wow you fail two folds here. So you really don't know how to follow a story. Okay here's a quick recap. First off the yellow sun isn't the main source of Kryptonian powers in MOS seeing how Krypton itself in the movie had a yellow sun.
Secondly writer Christopher Nolan straight up said he was changing aspects of the Superman lore in interviews leading up to the film to make it more realistic. This had fans nervous what Nolan was going to alter. The film itself repeatedly established Earth's atmosphere was the main source for their power, and maybe even planetary gravity (I can't remember this one too well), and not the sun. If you can follow a story (you clearly can't!), you would notice examples like it outright being explained the reason they gave for why Cavill was powerless inside Zod's ship was because it contained Krypton's atmosphere. Or how Zod's team had to wear those suits in order to stabilize their powers otherwise if they breath in too much of Earth's atmosphere without the necessary training and adapting to it, it overwhelms them and they can even pass out to it like in this scene.
Or how when Cavill first approached the terraforming machine, after getting a quick whiff of the air it was generating, Cavill nosedived and nearly hit the water before managing to compose himself. Did you not notice how there was no Kryptointe, red sun or magic in that whole movie, yet they Kryptonians were still able to get weak or powerless despite under a yellow sun?
Superman, all the many different versions, has NEVER needed to train his strength, not once in all of his thousands of appearances throughout comics, cartoons, movies, tv shows...etc. That is a crazy argument. The simple fact is that you are reaching and you know it.
"Superman, all the many different versions, has NEVER needed to train his strength, not once in all of his thousands of appearances throughout comics, cartoons, movies, tv shows...etc." Do you know how stupid you sound? So you're saying Superman as a literal baby the moment he land on Earth is as strong as he is in his full powered adult form. Because that's literally him not needing any training.
Also you're straight up wrong about no other media showing Superman needing to train to increase his strength. Very first episode of the Legion of Superheroes cartoon the legion tested out Clark's strength to see what his current level was. They used a glorified exercise machine and he came out at 6000 tons. He got stronger as the series went on due to the Legion training him. Or do you think all those training machines you sometimes see in the background for Superman in all sorts of mediums is just oversized decoration?
There is literally not a single thing throughout the entire movie that supports your idea.
Except for Jor-El saying so, who's a genetic scientist who has made Kryptonian babies. So I'm sure he knows what he's talking about. And Christopher Nolan when he said he want to give a more realistic approach to Superman. Because you know, yellow sunlight + Kryptonian = magic and red sunlight + Kryptonian = powerless isn't the least bit realistic. While the concept of training to get stronger, which is a basic concept to everyone except you apparently is more realistic. Then again I'm talking to a guy who didn't pick up on the atmosphere giving Kryptonians their powers despite it was repeatedly explained throughout the whole movie.
The terraforming machine was changing the gravity, simple as that. It was also turning Earth's atmosphere into Krypton's but that had nothing to do with the destruction. Everything was being flattened because of the increase in gravity.
Wrong again. The machines were increasing gravity by firing their pulses into the planet to increase it's mass. Obviously they didn't get far seeing how Earth's gravity wasn't too different after those machines were destroyed. Also I made an error when I rewatched the scene. The crushing effect was actually from the machines lobbing a bunch of debris high into the air and then they fell back down.
And you don't even have to increase the gravity much for the destruction that was caused. Most cars would flatten like that with a mere 10 times normal gravity and just about all buildings would do so with nothing more than 50 times normal gravity. But hell, lets just say it was increasing the gravity 100 times. That would mean that Superman lifted his own weight to fly, and estimating his weight at 240 pounds normally, that would mean he would weigh 24,000. A grand total of 12 tons. Oooo, such a great feat of strength.
Well you're already wrong here since they weren't increasing the gravity the way you're claiming, but I'll play your game here.
Increase in gravity don't create large craters in the ground, but fail to stop people still be on the ground a little further away. The buildings weren't flattened. They toppled over due to the waves from the terraforming machines was creating hitting them from the sides. You can clearly see in this video, many of the buildings intact are still standing, but are badly damaged by being blown from the sides.
Also lets do simple math here using your numbers. You average car weighs about 2 tons, so 4000 lbs. 10x alteration would make them 400 lbs on the lighter side. 400 lbs objects don't fly up 10 to 20 stories up in the air. Heck you can do 100x and that's 40 lbs. 40 lbs objects still don't fly 10 to 20 stories in the air.
Oh BTW Cavill also outflew a black hole after Zod's ship was destroyed, but I'm sure with your inability to follow a story, you'll give me a failtastic explanation that wasn't even in the movie to try and lowball that feat too. What other false info are you going to tell me about MOS? That the female and large dude fighting Superman in Smallville are Ursa and Non? That Zod chose Earth because he's a dictator and wanted to enslave humanity? That the phantom zone is a diamond that sends people to another dimension?
That's funny, you do realize that Silver Banshee is magic right? You do remember that Magic was VERY damaging to Smallville Superman right?
Silver Banshee is magic, but that doesn't mean her sonic screams are and nothing I can find says they are. And don't try and play the "every attack from a magic being is magic" card because by that logic Zatanna can KO Superman with her fist, and I'm confident she can't. This also ain't the first time a sonic scream owned SV Superman, and that other time was from a weaker, non magical opponent who made Clark bleed with her sonic scream.
But hey, lets leave out all the context with fights just to try and lowball him, why not.
Ironic statement coming from someone who's trying not to cite any of SV Superman's fights all thread.
Superman's punches from Man of Steel never sent anyone flying miles. Even when he was flying and hitting Zod as hard as he could he only sent him a few blocks.
Here's of the few all out punches SV Superman did where you can actually see where his opponent landed.
That doesn't look any further than the punches Cavill and Zod were giving each other. Haven't seen all of Brainiac's appearances, but if you're talking about the Fortress of Solitude fight, that clearly wasn't miles SV Clark sent him since they fought in the Fortress and Brainiac died in the fortress which isn't miles long. Every other SV superpunch you don't see where his opponent lands, and second Bizarro punch, Bizarro flew up in the air. This is also if we just focus on his very best super punches and not some of his other superpunches like this one.
The superpunch he did to Titan in that fight I don't think was even 10 feet. The Doomsday example isn't a punch. He grabbed DD, and super jump into the Lex corps facility which is something different altogether.
Since you clearly can't follow anything that happened in MOS, I'm going to have to explain it. Here's the last two part of their fight.
1. Anyone with working pair of eyes can clearly tell both Cavill and Zod used their flight abilities to stop themselves from flying any further. Something Smallville characters apparently never thought of doing.
2. Zod flew for a few blocks before Cavill managed to catch up to him and punch him again. You see, Cavill's Superman is actually smart enough to know you don't just punch an opponent once and hope they call it quits afterwards. He knows if you're trying to stop someone, you keep on hitting them until they fall unconscious.
3. When Zod got punched, he flew completely straight with no signs of falling downwards. Meaning the distance before he hit the ground would've been far more longer than a few blocks.
4. For delivering punches that you claim can only send them flying a few blocks, it's pretty amazing how they sent each other flying into space pretty fast.
5. Then there's the part you don't want to bring up, and that's how the shockwaves from their punches has actually damaged the structures next to them. Something SV Superman has never pulled off.
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