Dolores Umbridge vs Gilderoy Lockhart

Avatar image for cpt_nice
cpt_nice

10297

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#1  Edited By cpt_nice

Battle of the Harry Potter deplorables

No Caption Provided

No Caption Provided

Rules

* Book and movie feats allowed

* Lockhart as he was before losing his wits

* IC but determined to win

* No outside help or props

* Victory by death, incap or ko

Location

No Caption Provided

Who gets to wipe whose smirk of their face?

Avatar image for laughingbatman
laughingbatman

1827

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Initially, I would've said Gilderoy as long as he could get his obliviate off before Umbridge knew what to do. But then I remembered that Umbridge was willing to use the Cruciatus curse on Harry to find out Dumbledore's "secret weapon". I wish I knew a bit more about Lockhart's past to know how he bested all of those other witches/wizards to wipe their minds, but I give the upperhand, as much as I wish she'd have a staring contest with a Basilisk, to Dolores.

Avatar image for cpt_nice
cpt_nice

10297

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@laughingbatman: I think it is fair to assume Lockhart took those wizards and witches by surprise, as they would have been comfortable enough around him to tell him their wild tales.

Avatar image for laughingbatman
laughingbatman

1827

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@cpt_nice: That's what I'm thinking. He would've had to make them feel comfortable and then catch them off guard.

Avatar image for deactivated-5b60e98a8eb99
deactivated-5b60e98a8eb99

11591

Forum Posts

275

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Dolores dies a painfully horrible death in the most gruesome way possible. I don't care how.

I hate that woman . . .

Avatar image for decaf_wizard
decaf_wizard

17989

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Umbride probably

God I hate her though. Basically the Hillary Clinton of Harry Potter

Avatar image for deactivated-o78sdg008
deactivated-o78sdg008

2433

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Dolores. I don't really recall any duelling feats Lockhart even had.

Avatar image for cpt_nice
cpt_nice

10297

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#9  Edited By cpt_nice

@decaf_wizard said:

Basically the Hillary Clinton of Harry Potter

Save the politics for the off topic forum

Avatar image for anthp2000
ANTHP2000

37488

Forum Posts

150

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#10  Edited By ANTHP2000

Umbridge stomps. She did seem competent with movie feats using transfiguration to constrict a centaur and blowing up the entrace for the Room of Requirement, while Lockhart was lolblitzed by Snape not even trying. She also arrow timed. Rowling said that she is the one that created all these torture stuff like her pen, and she could cast a patronus so she should also be better at magic overall. Lockhart is not that good and I doubt he was able to beat anyone fairly to "wipe their minds".

Avatar image for cpt_nice
cpt_nice

10297

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#11  Edited By cpt_nice

@anthp2000: It was established very often overal magical skill does not always translate into duelling, but I do agree her inventing things like that pen she forced Harry to use is proof of her being skilled at some aspects.

Avatar image for anthp2000
ANTHP2000

37488

Forum Posts

150

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#13  Edited By ANTHP2000

@cpt_nice: Yeah, I know, that's why I'm arguing about Snape being overrated as a duellist sometimes. But when it comes to people like the ones here without any incredible duelling experience to speak of, it matters more.

Avatar image for vertigo-
Vertigo-

18307

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

Dolores seemed actually capable, unlike Lockhart.

Umbridge wins hands down. I also actually liked her better character-wise. She was so devilishly evil, compared to lockhard, who was really more of a pretty boy idiot

Avatar image for amendment50
Amendment50

16851

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

I'm pretty sure Umbridge stomps.

Avatar image for dstreet45
DSTREET45

5427

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#16  Edited By DSTREET45

Been a while since I've seen either book or movie but I'm pretty sure Umbridge stomps. Didn't Lockhart get taken hostage by 2nd year Harry and Ron?

Avatar image for cregan_stark
Cregan_Stark

5486

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#17  Edited By Cregan_Stark

Umbridge is by no means a world beater but Lockhart was completely and utterly incompetent. He showed to have less skill than a student at Hogwarts. The only thing that he was good at was the memory charm.

Umbridge should very comfortably defeat him

Avatar image for thejulkkis
thejulkkis

132

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

They kill each other and do the universe a favor

Avatar image for kiadi-monday
Kiadi-Monday

298

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Umbridge destroys, honestly. We know that she isn't averse to using unforgivable curses, and all round she is just seems more capable.

And am I the only one who kind of likes Umbridge? IMO, she gets lots of unfair hate.

Avatar image for amnesiak
Amnesiak

4120

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Umbridge

Avatar image for stormdriven
Stormdriven

19053

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Dolores, fairly easily