Doflamingo vs Mihawk

Round 1: Who would have won if they had had an all out duel at Marineford?

Round 2: Current Doffy vs Mihawk

Bonus Round: Mihawk and Zoro vs Doffy and Vergo (All Current versions)

round 1: Mihawk. he's supposedly on par with shanks and shanks is above doff.

round 2: team Mihawk slaughter house

@leo-343

mihawk isn't on par with shanks after all shanks is a yonko but he beats doffy though.

@dawnone: They've stated it multiple times in one piece that shanks and Mihawk would dual countless times and it was always a draw.

When the were younger yes but currently nah the haven't clashed after shanks lost his arm mihawk is unaware wether shanks is more powerful than him.

@dawnone: even if shanks is stronger I'm sure Mihawk can still go blow for blow for a while, as for doffy wouldn't be much trouble for shanks.

Mihawk

mihawk is unaware wether shanks is more powerful than him.

why would mihawk give a shit? he was given his title. he doesnt want it and wants it taken off his hands. only reason he doesnt fight shanks again is because he already knows he'll win vs a cripple

They've stated it multiple times in one piece that shanks and Mihawk would dual countless times and it was always a draw.

they stated that zero times. you just made that up. literally just MADE IT UP.

mihawk isn't on par with shanks after all shanks is a yonko but he beats doffy though.

meaningless. mihawk is worlds strongest swordsman. shanks is a swordsman

@ussj3071: UGH enough of this Mihawk arrogance crap. Mihawk loosing interest isn't a feat. That just shows he's arrogant.

We go by feats not by random things characters say. If that's the case then GOD Ussop would be the best fighter out there cause he loses interest in fights all the time.

Rayleigh is a swordsman. Does that mean Mihawk is stronger than Rayleigh? No. rayleigh stalled the fastest and arguably one of the most powerful admirals.

What do we know.

Shanks feats

- Clashed with Whitebeard.

- Fought Kaido and prevented him from intercepting Whitebeard.

Mihawk feats

- Stalled by diamond Jozu. Someone who's not even first mate.

- Stalled by Vista. Someone who's not even first mate.

If Mayweather was to fight in the UFC. Would he be champion? No. Cause there's so many otherways of fighting than just simple sword fighting. and just because you are the best in one specific thing, that doesn't mean everyone with a sword is automatically weaker than you.

Can you see Vista stalling Kaido? I can't. Can you see Vista stalling Whitebeard? No definitely not.

Then why the heck are you disregarding Shanks feats of becoming a Kaido purely from one line. Jeez you do know that every character has personality right? A character can lie? a character can be arrogant? A character can be wrong.

how? Doflamingo controlled Diamond Jozu, who stopped Mihawk's slash. that should say enough

@miraclecomeback: Akainu was able to stop a quake from whitebeard and look what whitebeard did to him.

true, but whitebeard was sick already

Mohawk needs more feats.

@chris-sama said:

Probably. But Mihawk wouldn't fair too much better imo.

Mihawk couldn't get past Vista. Who's like 5th in command.

Whitebeard tossed around Admirals. I don't see him getting stalled by a 5th in command.
I don't see Kaido being stalled by a 5th in command either.
So i really don't see Shanks being stalled by Vista for a large portion of the time and not have a discernible advantage.

@soaringturkeys: Fair enough.

I ghess mihawk is stronger cuz he lost first ( anime logic ).

Off topic : am i the only one who thinks that mihawk will have an injury ( may be also on one of his eyes ) due to training zoro?

Mihawk by everything else that is not called feats wins but other than that Doffy wins due to actually having feats.

Doffy wins every fight based on feats

But by logic and scaling, Mihawk is still better. Round 3 is a stomp.

Shanks got his hand bitten by a sea creature, so I'm not surprised

Mihawk couldn't get past Vista. Who's like 5th in command.

he wasnt even paying attention to vista half the time. mihawk is the kind of guy who fights for fun and toys around. look how long it took him to destroy zoro. he could oneshot zoro any time he wants but does not. if he needed to oneshot vista and move on, he could.

zoro himself has a goal of one day beating mihawk and right now he's pretty powerful and made issho get shocked and pushed back a bit. so if he fears mihawk and cant beat him yet, imagine a serious mihawk.

how? Doflamingo controlled Diamond Jozu, who stopped Mihawk's slash

evidence mihawk was trying? usually a serious slash is a named attack. we see this with every other swordsman to date, including zoro and ryuma. doflamingo failed to control luffy whos around the same tier as zoro whos goal it is to one day defeat mihawk in a fight. you want everyone at all times to put 100% into every single slash/punch which is absurdity.

UGH enough of this Mihawk arrogance crap

its arrogance to declare him weaker than a swordsman when the narrator said thats not possible.

p. Mihawk loosing interest isn't a feat. That just shows he's arrogant.

hes not arrogant. hes honorable. he doesn't want to fight a cripple since thats unfair. he wants nothing more than for someone to kick his ass. thats why he trained zoro, knowing full well zoro's intentions to surpass him.

We go by feats not by random things characters say.

no you don't go by feats because shanks doesnt actually have any.

Clashed with Whitebeard.

a brief clash to deflect an unprovoked swing, which was nowhere near serious or intending harm. they were even like "oh so theres not gonna be a fight then" after shanks said hes only here to talk. the swing at shanks was just WB saying "yeah don't talk to me, im better than you". so not only did WB intend it as an insult and a warning to make him leave, but he wasn't trying in the least. serious WB in the midst of a war tried to take off akainu's head and akainu stopped it with a FOOT. shanks failed miserably to stop a much weaker attack with a hand or a foot. so by your own assertions and logic, admiral akainu > shanks.

- Fought Kaido and prevented him from intercepting Whitebeard.

completely offscreen. we dont really know what happened. same with the legendary mihawk vs shanks duel that is offscreen and we only heard about from other characters. we know it must have been a tremendous and hard fight because WB said it shook the grand line and once it was all over, mihawk got the title of WSS.

Stalled by diamond Jozu. Someone who's not even first mate.

- Stalled by Vista. Someone who's not even first mate.

way to ignore him

- duelling shanks

- making the entire grand line shake as the result of a duel

- surpassing fujitora, law, and rayleigh by virtue of his title

- not even breaking a sweat in anything hes ever done. jozu didn't make him break a sweat or get worried or even have a frowning face. same with vista. he was thinking about how great luffy is, in the midst of his supposed "stalling duel" with vista.

also you dont know anything about vista other than he duelled mihawk so who really knows how truly strong he truly is? maybe he's above marco. oda already essentially screamed to everyone that marco is not the first mate. thats not the system of the WB pirates.

mihawk being blocked by jozu is just an attack being blocked. like akainu's foot stopping WB's swing. should we say akainu's stronger based on that?

crocodile stopped akainu. is croc stronger?

just like the whitebeard instance, you are assuming the attacker is putting everything they've got into the attack, not holding back a single ounce of power. but they can. they are.

WB didnt try to murder shanks and cut his head off. and mihawk had no reason to be pissed off and try to slice vista i half the second he saw him. every swordsman we know about has named attacks that are the highest tier of attack theyve got. mihawk has never used a single named attack. its all been generic swings,and only ONE swing with visible air pressure behind it. thats how you know hes not taking any of it seriously and not pissed off/going all out. when he's pissed and going 100% you bet your ass oda will make it clear.

If Mayweather was to fight in the UFC. Would he be champion? No. Cause there's so many otherways of fighting than just simple sword fighting. and just because you are the best in one specific thing, that doesn't mean everyone with a sword is automatically weaker than you.

pathetic. you think everyone doesnt already know that? you think mihawk doesnt know that? he would be dead decades ago if all he had was good swordsmanship.mihawk is strongest warrior who uses a sword. thats what that title means. not "hes good with a sword but worthless at anything else". theres no evidence of that. and plenty of powerful fighters like shanks predominantly use a sword, thus mihawk's above all of them or else the narrator's a liar. that title is given to him because its fearsome and it means something.

Can you see Vista stalling Kaido? I can't. Can you see Vista stalling Whitebeard? No definitely not.

good because i never argued that. mihawk could. hes been stated to be on that tier. possibly currently worlds strongest man besides kaido.

u do know that every character has personality right? A character can lie? a character can be arrogant? A character can be wrong.

so if a character can be arrogant, isnt it arrogant for shanks to demand a duel? how does he know he stands a chance? and the narrator CANNOT be wrong. its oda speaking to us through text. and narrator said mihawks worlds strongest swordsman. shanks is a swordsman.

From one piece yellow data book fuckboy shanks and Mihawk were rivals as in equals.

being rivals doesnt mean one cant edge out the other slightly.

So i really don't see Shanks being stalled by Vista for a large portion of the time and not have a discernible advantage.

mihawk wouldnt be either if he was in a hurry and needed to oneshot vista. as i said you cant just disregard mihawk's highest tier feat and have it mean nothing just because he decided to humor a lower tier and duel him for a few minutes. a character can have a personality. they can be merciful, hold back, have fun. you dont want them to. if they arent oneshotting left and right, you don't care. you shut your ears and dont care.

By feats doflamingo. By logic Mihawk. Zoro would at least push doflamingo pretty hard. Mihawk is still >>> above Zoro. Mihawk matched Shanks. BTW there seems to be a misconception about the YOnko. A YOnko is not necessarily the strongest individual. Rather it's a measure of how strong and large their crew is. As well as how much area they control.

@overwarrior2: I don't think Zoro would push Doffy too much. Doffy absolutely stomped Sanji, and I don't think Zoro is that high above Sanji.

A guy who fights with strings vs the world's greatest swordsman. Going with Mihawk both rounds

Mihawk stomps the first round and solos the 2nd

@ninjawarrior268: Strings that dice up buildings and massive steel structures like its wet toilet paper

@shirso: Zoro is way above Sanji at this point.

@ussj3071:

so basically your entire argument hinges on.

Mihawk couldn't be bothered so there's no point arguing against it.

Mihawk couldn't be bothered fighting vista... so there's not point arguing

Mihawk couldn't be bothered fighting Jozu... so there's no point arguing

Mihawk couldn't be bothered fighting so on and so forth.

Rayleigh primarly fights with a sword and stalled Kizaru, but he's holding a sword so Mihawk is definitely stronger but there's no point arguing cause we will only go by virtue alone and not by feats.

How convenient of you to write an unnecessarily long post without showing 1 bit of feat. That's called being convoluted.

Face it. Not 1 showing of him has supported his claim as the no.1 swordsman. He can't even beat a 5th in command. He showed absolutely no advantage over the fight. He doesn't even have the most impressive cutting feat in the manga.If this were any other character, they would have lost every single credibility. But hey you wanna fanboy, go right ahead.

@soaringturkeys: Your right so him matching shanks and not wanting to fight him because he feels he would no longer be a challange means nothing.

Also notice how the second he even attacked, EVERYONE including the admirals were watching intently.

Ya by feats Mihawk loses. But by any shred of logic Mihawk stomps this.

FYI Vista wasnt 5th in command, he was commander of the 5th division. All the commanders were equal. And Mihawk was not fighting him even half seriously. He was watching Luffy.

Reputation and power scaling do work if you matched-up characters from the same series

Mihawk should win all round

That's how One Piece works, which a lot of people on the Vine don't see.

Mihawk couldn't be bothered fighting so on and so forth.

also the fact we know he's faced far worse and his title of strongest sword user. and why waste a post where all you do is whine about 'feats" and "what we can see"? a feat thats offscreen is still a feat. and like i said a hundred times now, mihawk duelled shanks and it shook apart a continent.

let me guess. someone could be the most overpowering god of all time, oneshotting the universe offscreen, but because you didnt personally see it, you shut your ears and pretend like it never happened? theres nothing more pathetic.

whitebeard, who never talks about weaklings, brought it up as a point for why shanks is worth talking to. he was like "yeah i miss the good old days with roger and mihawk. you fought mihawk and it shook the continent. still ringing in my ears". does this sound at all like mihawk's some scrub? shanks only got to fame because of him duelling mihawk.

and why are you talking like you know the exact rankings of power in the WB pirate fleet? no one does. commanding the 5th division does not mean theres 4 people stronger than you.

. But hey you wanna fanboy, go right ahead.

your the only one fanboying, making things up and lying to yourself. you know full well doflamingo gets raped.

By feats only, Doflamingo wins

By common sense and scaling, Mihawk wtfstomps

@ussj3071: BUT HE DID NOTHING OFF SCREEEN.

he hasn't proven himself to be no.1 swords man on screen.

he hasn't proven himself to be no.1 swordsman off screen.

His cutting feat isn't even remotely close to being the best.

Don't accuse me of making things up when i'm the only one providing feats and not using speculation.

jeez.

Whitebeard pawned an admiral in a few hits.

The entire navy shat their pants when another yonko arrived.

and here you are saying that Zorro is yonko level when he can't even beat a side character? or even show one ounce of advantage. This side character isn't even an admiral or another yonko and he didn't show even a little bit of advantage

Stop accusing me of making stuff up. Provide your feats like i have. Your entire argument relies on you speculating.

It'd be a tough fight, but Mihawk would win in the end. Shanks is stronger then Mihawk. Just like how kakashi and guy were rivals and kakashi always declined a fight. But we all now who was stronger in the end, it's the same with shanks and mihawk. The former is the one with strength and power and the latter has strength and power BUThe makes excuses about shanks being a cripple. Last i checked he stopped Kaidou from getting involved in the war (he was still a cripple), he stopped akainu from killing coby (he was still a cripple) and he stopped a war (he was still a cripple). Plus wasn't it mihawk who walked away when shanks came to stop the war and how he said he didn't sign up to fight shanks but only whitebeard. Just because a character fights with a sword doesn't mean that's the only thing he can do.

Shanks is stronger then Mihawk.

you just made that up. oda's said a million times mihawks stronger

t's the same with shanks and mihawk. The former is the one with strength and power and the latter has strength and power BUThe makes excuses about shanks being a cripple

thats an excuse as to why hes supposedly stronger. mihawk has an honor code. he wants NOTHING MORE than to lose. he hates his fame. so why would he make excuses not to fight someone? he seemed willing to fight WB.

Stop accusing me of making stuff up. Provide your feats like i have. Your entire argument relies on you speculating.

stop accusing yourself of not making things up when you know full well you did and that shanks cannot win. i have oda on my side. you do not. you denied oda's words. i did not.

e. Last i checked

check again

he stopped Kaidou from getting involved in the war (he was still a cripple)

kaido wants to lose. shanks had to have talked him down.

he stopped akainu from killing coby (he was still a cripple)

sakazuki wasn't even putting 1% power into that hit.

and he stopped a war (he was still a cripple).

sengoku stopped the war. he commanded it over and the marines stood down.

BUT HE DID NOTHING OFF SCREEEN.

absurd. he has. he shook a continent in a epic duel vs an emperor.

Don't accuse me of making things up when i'm the only one providing feats

you ignored feats in order to knowingly lie about shanks being stronger when you know full well he isn't. and you know full well mihawk's strongest swordsman according to the writer meaning its undisprovable.author > feats.

The entire navy shat their pants when another yonko arrived.

the pirates shit their pants when mhawk so much as moved. and shanks had his whole army. not alone.

). Plus wasn't it mihawk who walked away when shanks came to stop the war and how he said he didn't sign up to fight shanks but only whitebeard.

exactly. he's shanks friend and would prefer not to kill him if he can help it. the marines can't make him fight shanks because that's not the deal. partly why sengoku stopped it instead of attacking and killing shanks.

Mihawk in a stomp

Mihawk based off hype

@ussj3071: I said some of those but not all of them? Why the heck did you cut and paste other peoples rebuttals to create one?

You know what, just by doing that you are no longer fit for a rebuttal. You literally just said that feats don't count.

Just last thing, rhetorical question cause I know what the answer is.

Who has the best cutting feat in the over 10 years of One Piece publication?

Not Mihawk.

Mihawk stronger than Shanks? When has Oda ever stated that? He said they had many duels that shook the world or something like that, but he never flat out stated that. There is also the fact that he was talking about swordsmanship, which is why Mihawk didn't want to fight Shanks a second time, he knows Shanks is a powerful man, but he's not the swordsmen he used to be (loosing an arm and all).

Mihawk is the better Swordsmen, but Shanks is overall more powerful being that he's likely the overall best haki user alive currently (depending if the Goresei aren't). Think of it like this, Luffy wants to fight Shanks last (it's pretty obvious), would it make sense for Zoro's endgame to be more powerful than Luffy's endgame. Why would the vice captain be above the captain? Just my personal opinion.

As for the battle, Mihawk would stomp Doflamingo. He's the most powerful warlord which is on the levels of Admiral/Yonko.

Mihawk is known as the best swordsman in the world.That means he is and has been stronger than a pretty large group of people for a very long time. Based on that I am willing to say he would probably beat Doflfy. We know that he used to duel a two armed east blue Shanks. We know that he had pre time skip casual mountain level attacks. That's enough for me to think he wins. Its a heavy speculation call on my part but hey.

@leo-343:

A 100% fresh current Doflamingo with his black knight, awakened DF, conqueror's haki, insane durability, speed, flight, range & technique? idk im starting to change my mind. Doflamingo might win.