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#1 Edited by Supermanthor (20011 posts) - - Show Bio

I have been seeing this on various fourms

And people can't decide whether they should see it as a feat or a clear outlier

If it's a legit feat indeed does that mean rebirth Superman > pre 52 Superman ? (As feat wise )

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#2 Posted by baph (1944 posts) - - Show Bio

In the future if he keeps consistently getting feats like this, then yeah.

As of now, no.

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#3 Posted by ShauryaIsTheOne (79 posts) - - Show Bio

rebirth and pre 52 were the same

reborn > pre 52

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#4 Posted by Marishtar (2094 posts) - - Show Bio

@baph said:

In the future if he keeps consistently getting feats like this, then yeah.

As of now, no.

+1

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#5 Posted by AKunderfyre (20 posts) - - Show Bio

As with every other feat with every other character. If the feat stands out wildly out from the rest like in this case. It is an outlier until similar feats are repeated in the future.

Only notable exceptions are characters that start out with feats like these. Rebirth Superman however has been going on for 3 years and during most of that time Superman was underpreforming even for a high tier level, let alone a casual planet buster.

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#6 Edited by seastone98 (4700 posts) - - Show Bio

Honestly I've always seen supes as a planetary+ character & 4 the most part of his history he was/is so i don't find that feat shocking (obviously it's questionable now but if he gets more feats of the same caliber he'll be the supes i know & love)

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#7 Posted by Nucleon (3464 posts) - - Show Bio

Being an un-altered, mortal alien in DC, one among millions, really, makes you do things like pushing planets. Always was, and always will be.

That's why they need to reboot every odd decade.

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#8 Edited by Bayman007 (1687 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't see this being out of character for Superman.

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#10 Posted by blackpantherisb (7250 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes, it should be legit, since the Reborn arc he hasn’t gotten many low-showings, and has several highly impressive striking feats. Also currently he can draw on feats from the N52 and Post-Crisis eras.

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#11 Edited by Ready_4_Madness (16520 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes, he’s starting to get better feats. Like the Phantom Zone.

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#12 Posted by King-Ragnar (4144 posts) - - Show Bio

No.

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#13 Posted by TakenStew22 (1394 posts) - - Show Bio

@baph said:

In the future if he keeps consistently getting feats like this, then yeah.

As of now, no.

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#14 Edited by Thedailybagel (12895 posts) - - Show Bio

If he keeps it up yeah. Right now, no it obviously isn’t and I’m surprised so many people are taking it seriously given how Clark has been portrayed as explicitly below that level as recently as Rogol Zar.

It’s a tremendous leap to get your ass kicked by someone that on panel is not powerful enough to bust a planet, to then bust one by *jumping* off of it whilst so weakened that you can’t fly anymore.

That’s not to say it’ll forever be an outlier, but consistency is important and Clark doesn’t have that yet.

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#15 Posted by blackpantherisb (7250 posts) - - Show Bio

@thedailybagel: I mean Rogol was clearly crazy powerful, he was shaking the PZ during his fight with Zod, just because he didn’t bust a planet doesn’t mean that he couldn’t.

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#17 Posted by Thedailybagel (12895 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackpantherisb: Shaking the PZ is unquantifiable and he literally needed weapons to bust planets. In fact Clark explicitly said he couldn’t destroy one of them because it could survive in the Earths core. That’s miles below busting a planet by jumping whilst extremely weakened.

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#18 Posted by Sy8000 (35455 posts) - - Show Bio

Is there any indication "the planet shatters" doesn't just mean the ground cracked? It's not the normal language people would use sure, but it makes a lot more sense as an explanation.

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#19 Posted by Omnipotent94 (1473 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes. He has feats from post crisis as well so yes.

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#20 Posted by Thedailybagel (12895 posts) - - Show Bio

@sy8000: You see the planet explode behind him l.

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#21 Posted by Sy8000 (35455 posts) - - Show Bio

@sy8000: You see the planet explode behind him l.

I can't really tell if the whole planet exploded or just a small area around where he took off.

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#22 Posted by TheHercules (805 posts) - - Show Bio

In the last issue of recent Justice League (2018) run, hasn't Superman tanked a Multi-Planetary explosion?

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#23 Posted by Morpheus_ (34487 posts) - - Show Bio

It's an outlier but absolutely legit. Not really seeing how it can be disputed.

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#26 Posted by cKarma (135 posts) - - Show Bio

Small planet is small asf

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#27 Posted by XLR87T3 (10040 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackpantherisb: Shaking the PZ is unquantifiable and he literally needed weapons to bust planets. In fact Clark explicitly said he couldn’t destroy one of them because it could survive in the Earths core. That’s miles below busting a planet by jumping whilst extremely weakened.

Anything that could sit in heat greater than the surface of the sun for several years straight without any residual damage is herald tier durability. Not to mention the pressure of being in the core of the Earth for all that time. And while Superman said that, he was talking gravitational forces so strong it was destroying the earth.

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#28 Posted by Supermanforever (8509 posts) - - Show Bio

busting a planet with just a jump while beaten and weakened? Yeah that is planetbusting.

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#29 Posted by bdelloidgrain2 (1988 posts) - - Show Bio

I think it is legit.

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#30 Posted by Thedailybagel (12895 posts) - - Show Bio

@xlr87t3:

Anything that could sit in heat greater than the surface of the sun for several years straight without any residual damage is herald tier durabilit

No it isn't and this is a baffling statement to say the least. Being unnafected by 6000 degree Celsius doesn't get more impressive the longer you do it and actual heralds fly through stars which literally get hundreds, if not thousands of times hotter once you get to the core. Beta Ray Bill was sleeping in a star going nova and even Invincible (someone I think would lose to Red Hulk) could have a fist fight in the early layers of the sun with no discomfort other than sweat. 6000 degrees celsisus heat is something Iron Man has been able to produce.

. Not to mention the pressure of being in the core of the Earth for all that time

This still isn't herald tier, or anything close, actually. Wonder Man has been punched to the core of a planet by Gladiator and came out fine. The fact that Clark admitted it was difficult isn't exactly something worth mentioning in his favor.

And while Superman said that, he was talking gravitational forces so strong it was destroying the earth.

Uh, what?

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#31 Posted by XLR87T3 (10040 posts) - - Show Bio

@thedailybagel:

No it isn't and this is a baffling statement to say the least.

This is a baffling reaction to basic science

Being unnafected by 6000 degree Celsius doesn't get more impressive the longer you do it

Yes it does. Touching lemon juice is nothing, sleeping in a bowl full of lemon juice for a week is not even a skeleton left remaining

and actual heralds fly through stars which literally get hundreds, if not thousands of times hotter once you get to the core.

For how long do they stay in such heat? A nuke is hotter than the core of the Sun, according to your logic Iron-man is more durable than Mangog and Thor put together

Beta Ray Bill was sleeping in a star going nova

He wasn't in the core, he drifted into the surface and woke up. If it went nova the narration made it clear he would have died.

and even Invincible (someone I think would lose to Red Hulk) could have a fist fight in the early layers of the sun with no discomfort other than sweat.

Good for him. I think Invincible would wreck Red Hulk.

6000 degrees celsisus heat is something Iron Man has been able to produce.

Good for him. Your point?

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#33 Edited by MrTrey (432 posts) - - Show Bio

The continued disbelief that DC and Marvel high tiers are anything much more than planetary is always hilarious when we've seen these characters tank/make supernovas and black holes and big bangs or whatever bullshit that makes planetary destruction look quaint.

You know, because somehow their planet feats are more consistent when they're nearly as rare as these feats and the vast majority of their actual fights don't look much more destructive than what ordinary military ordinance is capable of/building level at best.

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#34 Posted by FireStarLord73194 (5290 posts) - - Show Bio

Legit in a sense that he did actually crack a planet. But it was a planet in a pocket dimension made just to keep superman prisoner, it’s likely it wasn’t that big to begin with

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#35 Posted by geekryan (4723 posts) - - Show Bio

Can someone post the feat?

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#36 Posted by DimlyLitLantern (742 posts) - - Show Bio

@firestarlord73194: The World Forger mentioned to Batman that the dimension Clark was in was a galaxy. Why would he make a planet or dimension so small that Clark could escape when he specifically didn't want him to? It is more likely that it was a larger than normal planet considering that the gravitational pull was supposed to suck Clark back no matter how far he jumped.