Does Nolan Batman beat MCU Cap if he gets the super soldier serum?

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Poll Does Nolan Batman beat MCU Cap if he gets the super soldier serum? (47 votes)

Yes 51%
No 49%

In a random encounter. Does Batman best Cap?

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No but it’s close.

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No Cap is still leagues ahead of him when it comes to skill imo.

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I think Nolan Bats is more skilled than Cap.

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Nope

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Probably not, but it'd be very close.

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It's highly likely tbh.

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Not a chance.

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No. He get's choked.

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It's impossible to say, but he's too inconsistent for me to give him the "feats" talk.

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@rbt: Do you consider Cap high tier in terms of pure H2H skill?

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@rbt: Do you consider Cap high tier in terms of pure H2H skill?

He's high tier in MCU barring Netflix. By intention, high tier in MCU as a whole.

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@rbt: But like relative to other universes? Arrowverse, DCEU, Nolanverse, wherever else.

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oh that's a good question. A lot of the reason Batman loses in these threads is cuz he was like....actually a normal dude with normal dude stats.

I think he could

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@rbt: But like relative to other universes? Arrowverse, DCEU, Nolanverse, wherever else.

Relative to DCEU, Nolanverse, Fox, AoS, etc, he is still high tier. Compared to Arrowverse and Netflix MCU, he isn't. Not unless we scale him from Netflix MCU characters.

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Bats wouldn't fit in his batsuit after taking serum seeing how it turned Rogers into an absolute unit

OT: 5/10. Both could beat each other. Close match

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No, Cap still beats him

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They both stomp the arrowverse that's for sure

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No.

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Yes.

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No he gets slapped silly. Dude was slow and not skilled.

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@kevd4wg: what was Cap before the serum?

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@kevd4wg said:

No he gets slapped silly. Dude was slow and not skilled.

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@kevd4wg: what was Cap before the serum?

Cap got skilled after taking the Serum. What's your point?

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@kevd4wg said:

No he gets slapped silly. Dude was slow and not skilled.

Slow and not skilled people take on multiple trained and armed opponents while surrounded and unarmed and take them down while just getting tagged once.

Never change, please.

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@kevd4wg: Batman is already skilled, physically solid, taking the serum would make him more of a beast than Cap is.

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@rbt said:
@kevd4wg said:

No he gets slapped silly. Dude was slow and not skilled.

Slow and not skilled people take on multiple trained and armed opponents while surrounded and unarmed and take them down while just getting tagged once.

Never change, please.

Can you specify what you're talking about? Are you talking about this scene?

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@kevd4wg: Batman is already skilled, physically solid, taking the serum would make him more of a beast than Cap is.

Proof? How do we know the Serum doesn't max out at Cap level?

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@kevd4wg: because the serum amplifies everything

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@rbt: Tagged once? He got taken, pu ched and kicked, stabbed and shot in the head multiple times.

And they basically took turns attacking.

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@rbt: Tagged once? He got taken, pu ched and kicked, stabbed and shot in the head multiple times.

And they basically took turns attacking.

Smh. You're watching Ward's hallway fight again?

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Any Batman with SSS would be a monster. I could see Nolan's becoming equal to Steve statwise but with a more vicious mind.

Could go either way, but Bats surely has a chance here.

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Super Soldiers and herb users are all roughly around the same level in the MCU. So this puts Bruce on that same tier stat wise. But Bruce routinely was given trouble by low level thugs and dogs. Cap can punch over his weight class.

Bruce loses.

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@rbt: It looks to me like Batman gets tagged multiple times. And I honestly can't tell what's happening in that scene.

@kevd4wg: because the serum amplifies everything

How do we know it can go above Cap's level. How do we know that Cap getting fit while having the Serum wouldn't even that out anyway.

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@kevd4wg: He gets tagged only once at 0:55 mark. He dodges or parries everything else.

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@kevd4wg: we know that because the person who made it said it amplifies everything

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@rbt said:

@kevd4wg: He gets tagged only once at 0:55 mark. He dodges or parries everything else.

I mean there's like 15 minutes off screen so we don't even know that for sure, but also he gets tagged by the grapple and then gets put in a headlock, which isn't a great showing for him.

Additionally he doesn't even beat everybody there.

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@kevd4wg: we know that because the person who made it said it amplifies everything

Can I get a timestamp or quote? And how do we know it doesn't amplifiy to Cap's level no matter what, that's still amplification. And how do we know that Cap getting more fit as a super soldier didn't do the same thing. I mean the Herb seems to be the same thing but it's not like T'Challa's way more fit then Cap.

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@kevd4wg: Considering how easily he was demolishing them on screen, there's no reason to assume he was doing any worse off screen. And its not even off screen fight. It's just a cut in between.

As for getting tagged by grapple, he was trying to get away, not really a strike against his cqc skill. And no, Bruce wasn't put in a head lock. The guy swung at him, Bruce ducked under the hit and tackled him through the fence.

They only tagged him once in cqc. The only other legit tag was the grapple gun, but that hardly matters considering we're talking about cqc skill.

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Ironically, Nolan Batman still beats Ward.

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@kevd4wg: google search and you’lol find the scene. Even if it did Cap at Steve’s level he would still get stomped.

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Only if starting off stronger means you end up stronger after the serum. Cap is more skilled, so Bruce will need to be stronger to win.

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We have no clue. Presuming you mean to equalise their stats, then even then I’d back Cap.

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Ngl, I'm surprised by how close the poll is.

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No; Cap is altogether more skilled.

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@rbt: You don't think that feat against the League of Shadows puts him above Steve do you?

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Batman would win

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He can already beat him without the super soldier serum. With it, it's overkill.