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Posted by SirFizzWhizz (37749 posts) 2 years, 3 months ago

Poll: Does Miles Morales always lose? Miles vs Red Hood (107 votes)

Spider Man 48%
Red Hood 46%
Maybe, not sure. 7%

Credit to @k4tzm4n own Does Batman Always Win segments. Check them out. Every week or two I will make a new match, and keep track of Miles wins and losses. Have some stats if Miles as a Spider man character simply lose all the time to other Street Tiers. See what he looks like after a few months of street tiers. Miles Current Streak.

Losses

Miles vs Batman Beyond

Miles vs Blade

Miles vs X-23

Miles vs Black Panther

Wins

None

Draws

None

This Weeks Match.

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Battle forum rules.

  • Death or KO.
  • Standard Gear. As in gear used more than once and easily reachable for said character.
  • Start 20 feet apart in a city street.
  • No BFR.
  • Morals on and in character.
  • Everyone is current or last seen for versions.

Match will close Friday. Results will be tallied in the next post.

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#1 Posted by Amendment50 (15543 posts) - - Show Bio
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#5 Posted by SirFizzWhizz (37749 posts) - - Show Bio
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#7 Edited by Apocofist (3028 posts) - - Show Bio

The better question is... can Miles defeat the stoppable force and the movable object that is Killer Croc?

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#8 Posted by TheWatcherKing (18584 posts) - - Show Bio

I feel like people are voting for red hood just so miles will lose.

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#9 Posted by MrAbductor (1266 posts) - - Show Bio

Haha keep the streak going

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#10 Posted by utkanflash (2401 posts) - - Show Bio

I dont know Miles's feats so well but if he lost to Terry vefore.. Ruthless trickster as Jason could be a troublesome foe for Miles too.

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#11 Edited by deactivated-5a89ca5697052 (8063 posts) - - Show Bio

New 52 jason is a Beast.

I am voting for him, but this should be a really close fight.

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#12 Posted by King_Nomarch (2115 posts) - - Show Bio

If he takes the fight seriously Miles should win.

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#13 Posted by SirFizzWhizz (37749 posts) - - Show Bio

I dont know Miles's feats so well but if he lost to Terry vefore.. Ruthless trickster as Jason could be a troublesome foe for Miles too.

When Batman Beyond fight happen, it was very early miles. He had over 2 years to get more feats since then.

I feel like people are voting for red hood just so miles will lose.

I felt this was very much a for sure Miles win. I think your right :)

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#14 Posted by utkanflash (2401 posts) - - Show Bio

@utkanflash said:

I dont know Miles's feats so well but if he lost to Terry vefore.. Ruthless trickster as Jason could be a troublesome foe for Miles too.

When Batman Beyond fight happen, it was very early miles. He had over 2 years to get more feats since then.

Thanks for the tip then Miles couldnt be has much problem about dealing with Jason here.

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#15 Posted by Lvenger (36338 posts) - - Show Bio
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Nah Miles can't handle submarine busting and Kryptonian resisting strength.

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#16 Edited by LDM (5362 posts) - - Show Bio

I feel like people are voting for red hood just so miles will lose.

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#17 Posted by Vertigo- (17841 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: I haven't exactly read all of Jason's material post Flashpoint yet, but wasn't he amped by Venom in the latter scan?

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#18 Posted by Lvenger (36338 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackestnight93: Yes he was, I'm just joking to troll SFW. I don't think Miles would lose to Jason more often than not.

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#19 Posted by BruceRogers (17610 posts) - - Show Bio

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Nah Miles can't handle submarine busting and Kryptonian resisting strength.

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#20 Posted by Vertigo- (17841 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: figured. Just wanted to make sure I was remembering right

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#21 Posted by MiracleComeBack (2194 posts) - - Show Bio

Another classic thread

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#22 Edited by AllStarSuperman (43381 posts) - - Show Bio

@sirfizzwhizz: Does Miles have any feats against anybody skilled? I know, realistically, just one shots everyone. But has he actually been able to do it to the standard comic ninja type.

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#23 Posted by SirFizzWhizz (37749 posts) - - Show Bio

@sirfizzwhizz: Does Miles have any feats against anybody skilled? I know, realistically, just one shots everyone. But has he actually been able to do it to the standard comic ninja type.

He did fine vs Winter Soldier. Also a double amoed Task master could not finish Miles.

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#24 Posted by TheWatcherKing (18584 posts) - - Show Bio

@sirfizzwhizz: Does Miles have any feats against anybody skilled? I know, realistically, just one shots everyone. But has he actually been able to do it to the standard comic ninja type.

He did relatively ok against old man logan who was is listed s a 7 in his character bio.Although the fight didn't have a winner.

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#25 Posted by SirFizzWhizz (37749 posts) - - Show Bio

@allstarsuperman said:

@sirfizzwhizz: Does Miles have any feats against anybody skilled? I know, realistically, just one shots everyone. But has he actually been able to do it to the standard comic ninja type.

He did relatively ok against old man logan who was is listed s a 7 in his character bio.Although the fight didn't have a winner.

When did he fight Old Man Logan?

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#29 Edited by SirFizzWhizz (37749 posts) - - Show Bio

VS Old Man Logan

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So how did Logan beat Spider man? Both were holding back, and Miles not only tagged Old Man Logan several times with webbing during the fight to talk him down, but got the most hits in too. Old Man Logan ran and accomplish his mission of releasing some baddies. Logan clearly could not beat Miles.

This is a good showing for Miles. Haters going to hate though.

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#30 Posted by AllStarSuperman (43381 posts) - - Show Bio
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#31 Posted by SirFizzWhizz (37749 posts) - - Show Bio
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#32 Edited by nickzambuto (29288 posts) - - Show Bio

@allstarsuperman: His fight with Winter Soldier was kinda weird... if you ask me Bucky was losing the whole time. But then he just randomly started narrating about how he could kill Miles in an instant with one move if he felt like it. It's weird because he's saying that while the art depicts him getting his butt kicked.

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#33 Edited by deactivated-5a89ca5697052 (8063 posts) - - Show Bio

He fought evenly with Bucky ... Bucky even managed to get the upper hand towards the end ...

Red Hood should win this.

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#34 Posted by NewWorldOrder (1776 posts) - - Show Bio

Miles

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#35 Posted by TrapJesus (35 posts) - - Show Bio

If miles hits jason with a venom strike its all over

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#36 Posted by deactivated-597fe3e7af56f (2560 posts) - - Show Bio

@ldm said:
@watcher5000 said:

I feel like people are voting for red hood just so miles will lose.

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#37 Posted by Warlockmage (9379 posts) - - Show Bio

Jason venomstings miles...

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#39 Posted by Warlockmage (9379 posts) - - Show Bio

btw Miles did abysmally against Old Man Logan... Logan no sold all of his blows (pretty much), and then fought smarter than Miles... that is not a feat Miles Morales fans should bring up any time soon.

OML (who is not nearly as skilled or as durable as his 616 counterpart) looked like he could have punk'd Miles any time he wanted to, he was holding back against Miles as well.

now for real Miles should lol stomp Jason but Miles had a rather poor showing against OML

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#42 Posted by g2_ (11945 posts) - - Show Bio

btw Miles did abysmally against Old Man Logan... Logan no sold all of his blows (pretty much), and then fought smarter than Miles... that is not a feat Miles Morales fans should bring up any time soon.

OML (who is not nearly as skilled or as durable as his 616 counterpart) looked like he could have punk'd Miles any time he wanted to, he was holding back against Miles as well.

now for real Miles should lol stomp Jason but Miles had a rather poor showing against OML

TBH, it sounds like P.I.S

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#43 Edited by g2_ (11945 posts) - - Show Bio

@warlockmage said:

Batman venomstings Jason ans Miles...

Fixed.

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#44 Posted by Eto (5336 posts) - - Show Bio

Jason kills him lel.

Jk, Miles wins. Sigh

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#45 Posted by AllStarSuperman (43381 posts) - - Show Bio

@sirfizzwhizz: Based on Miles performances against Old Logan and Winter Soldier, I'd say Jason has a shot at him. Jason has never outright beaten someone so physically above him in so many ways, but he's shown counters to any advantage one could have. During his time with the All-Caste, Jason was shown to fight an metahuman with super speed (typical blur/after images) in melee combat. He was one of Jason's teachers and he states that Jason is getting faster the more they trained. Later in Countdown to Final Crisis, Jason had no problem combating super fast vampires. In Batman and Robin Eternal, Cassandra Cain's first New 52 appearance involves her totally destroying Nightwing with skill and speed, yet in the next issue she fights a holding back Jason, and she needed Nightwing to interrupt the fight, then later save her ass at the end of the fight. In Red Hood and the Outlaws v2, Jason dodges ax swings from Artemis, a high ranked Amazon, who could deflect bullets off her ax. In Under the Red Hood, Jason fought and killed Captain Nazi, a Captain Marvel villain, he used explosives to knock him off balance, and finished him off with a taser to the face. (Batman was a helpful part of this fight). In Teen Titans 29, Jason infiltrates the Titans Tower and stealthily knocks out everyone except Tim Drake. Metahumans, Cyborg and Beast Boy were dropped with tasers.

Jason's got the gear to bypass Miles durability, imo, and he's got the skill and tactics to never put himself in a position to get stomped.

@allstarsuperman: His fight with Winter Soldier was kinda weird... if you ask me Bucky was losing the whole time. But then he just randomly started narrating about how he could kill Miles in an instant with one move if he felt like it. It's weird because he's saying that while the art depicts him getting his butt kicked.

Well, holding back means holding back. Imagine if Leon S Kennedy wasn't allowed to kill anyone, he surely wouldn't survive the events of his games/movies if he was only going for non lethal takedowns.

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#46 Posted by GIliad_ (6654 posts) - - Show Bio

Evidently

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#47 Posted by nickzambuto (29288 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't understand why everyone is hating on the Miles vs Logan fight? Miles actually seemed dominant the whole time. Logan only landed one blow. You can say that Logan was reluctant to fight back but that just means the fight was inconclusive. It isn't really a good showing for either of them.

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#48 Edited by SirFizzWhizz (37749 posts) - - Show Bio

@allstarsuperman said:

@nickzambuto said:

@allstarsuperman: His fight with Winter Soldier was kinda weird... if you ask me Bucky was losing the whole time. But then he just randomly started narrating about how he could kill Miles in an instant with one move if he felt like it. It's weird because he's saying that while the art depicts him getting his butt kicked.

Well, holding back means holding back. Imagine if Leon S Kennedy wasn't allowed to kill anyone, he surely wouldn't survive the events of his games/movies if he was only going for non lethal takedowns.

Excuses since Miles was holding back too. So Holding back Miles > Holding back Winter Soldier. Non Holding Back Miles > non Holding Back Bucky. That simple.

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btw Miles did abysmally against Old Man Logan... Logan no sold all of his blows (pretty much), and then fought smarter than Miles... that is not a feat Miles Morales fans should bring up any time soon.

OML (who is not nearly as skilled or as durable as his 616 counterpart) looked like he could have punk'd Miles any time he wanted to, he was holding back against Miles as well.

now for real Miles should lol stomp Jason but Miles had a rather poor showing against OML

Did miles at all use webbing or his Venom Sting? If not, then PIS.

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#50 Posted by SirFizzWhizz (37749 posts) - - Show Bio

@g2_ said:
@warlockmage said:

btw Miles did abysmally against Old Man Logan... Logan no sold all of his blows (pretty much), and then fought smarter than Miles... that is not a feat Miles Morales fans should bring up any time soon.

OML (who is not nearly as skilled or as durable as his 616 counterpart) looked like he could have punk'd Miles any time he wanted to, he was holding back against Miles as well.

now for real Miles should lol stomp Jason but Miles had a rather poor showing against OML

TBH, it sounds like P.I.S

Yup.

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Miles curb stomps.

@sirfizzwhizz: How is this fair?

Dude, look at the polls. the hate is real lmoa.