Does Miles Morales always lose? Miles vs Red Hood

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@allstarsuperman

@firstolympian: nice

@amendment50: Haters hate. 'shrugs'

@sirfizzwhizz: I don't hate Miles. But I do love CV.

The better question is... can Miles defeat the stoppable force and the movable object that is Killer Croc?

I feel like people are voting for red hood just so miles will lose.

Haha keep the streak going

I dont know Miles's feats so well but if he lost to Terry vefore.. Ruthless trickster as Jason could be a troublesome foe for Miles too.

New 52 jason is a Beast.

I am voting for him, but this should be a really close fight.

If he takes the fight seriously Miles should win.

When Batman Beyond fight happen, it was very early miles. He had over 2 years to get more feats since then.

I felt this was very much a for sure Miles win. I think your right :)

Thanks for the tip then Miles couldnt be has much problem about dealing with Jason here.

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Nah Miles can't handle submarine busting and Kryptonian resisting strength.

@lvenger: I haven't exactly read all of Jason's material post Flashpoint yet, but wasn't he amped by Venom in the latter scan?

@blackestnight93: Yes he was, I'm just joking to troll SFW. I don't think Miles would lose to Jason more often than not.

@lvenger: figured. Just wanted to make sure I was remembering right

Another classic thread

@sirfizzwhizz: Does Miles have any feats against anybody skilled? I know, realistically, just one shots everyone. But has he actually been able to do it to the standard comic ninja type.

He did fine vs Winter Soldier. Also a double amoed Task master could not finish Miles.

He did relatively ok against old man logan who was is listed s a 7 in his character bio.Although the fight didn't have a winner.

When did he fight Old Man Logan?

@sirfizzwhizz: Old Man Logan issue 19.

Sweet.

VS Old Man Logan

So how did Logan beat Spider man? Both were holding back, and Miles not only tagged Old Man Logan several times with webbing during the fight to talk him down, but got the most hits in too. Old Man Logan ran and accomplish his mission of releasing some baddies. Logan clearly could not beat Miles.

This is a good showing for Miles. Haters going to hate though.

@sirfizzwhizz: How did he do against Logan?

I dont know. I have not read it.

@allstarsuperman: His fight with Winter Soldier was kinda weird... if you ask me Bucky was losing the whole time. But then he just randomly started narrating about how he could kill Miles in an instant with one move if he felt like it. It's weird because he's saying that while the art depicts him getting his butt kicked.

He fought evenly with Bucky ... Bucky even managed to get the upper hand towards the end ...

Red Hood should win this.

Miles

If miles hits jason with a venom strike its all over

Jason venomstings miles...

http://imgur.com/a/sf4FM

btw Miles did abysmally against Old Man Logan... Logan no sold all of his blows (pretty much), and then fought smarter than Miles... that is not a feat Miles Morales fans should bring up any time soon.

OML (who is not nearly as skilled or as durable as his 616 counterpart) looked like he could have punk'd Miles any time he wanted to, he was holding back against Miles as well.

now for real Miles should lol stomp Jason but Miles had a rather poor showing against OML

@firstolympian: Thanks for posting that. Kinda a lame fight though.

Miles curb stomps.

@sirfizzwhizz: How is this fair?

TBH, it sounds like P.I.S

Fixed.

Jason kills him lel.

Jk, Miles wins. Sigh

@sirfizzwhizz: Based on Miles performances against Old Logan and Winter Soldier, I'd say Jason has a shot at him. Jason has never outright beaten someone so physically above him in so many ways, but he's shown counters to any advantage one could have. During his time with the All-Caste, Jason was shown to fight an metahuman with super speed (typical blur/after images) in melee combat. He was one of Jason's teachers and he states that Jason is getting faster the more they trained. Later in Countdown to Final Crisis, Jason had no problem combating super fast vampires. In Batman and Robin Eternal, Cassandra Cain's first New 52 appearance involves her totally destroying Nightwing with skill and speed, yet in the next issue she fights a holding back Jason, and she needed Nightwing to interrupt the fight, then later save her ass at the end of the fight. In Red Hood and the Outlaws v2, Jason dodges ax swings from Artemis, a high ranked Amazon, who could deflect bullets off her ax. In Under the Red Hood, Jason fought and killed Captain Nazi, a Captain Marvel villain, he used explosives to knock him off balance, and finished him off with a taser to the face. (Batman was a helpful part of this fight). In Teen Titans 29, Jason infiltrates the Titans Tower and stealthily knocks out everyone except Tim Drake. Metahumans, Cyborg and Beast Boy were dropped with tasers.

Jason's got the gear to bypass Miles durability, imo, and he's got the skill and tactics to never put himself in a position to get stomped.

Well, holding back means holding back. Imagine if Leon S Kennedy wasn't allowed to kill anyone, he surely wouldn't survive the events of his games/movies if he was only going for non lethal takedowns.

Evidently

I don't understand why everyone is hating on the Miles vs Logan fight? Miles actually seemed dominant the whole time. Logan only landed one blow. You can say that Logan was reluctant to fight back but that just means the fight was inconclusive. It isn't really a good showing for either of them.

Excuses since Miles was holding back too. So Holding back Miles > Holding back Winter Soldier. Non Holding Back Miles > non Holding Back Bucky. That simple.

Did miles at all use webbing or his Venom Sting? If not, then PIS.

Yup.

Dude, look at the polls. the hate is real lmoa.