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Posted by SirFizzWhizz (37749 posts) 2 years, 2 months ago

Poll: Does Miles Morales always lose? Miles vs Captain America (67 votes)

Miles Wins 28%
Cap Wins 67%
Maybe, not sure. 1%

Credit to @k4tzm4n own Does Batman Always Win segments. Check them out. Every week or two I will make a new match, and keep track of Miles wins and losses. Have some stats if Miles as a Spider man character simply lose all the time to other Street Tiers. See what he looks like after a few months of street tiers. Miles Current Streak.

Losses

Miles vs Batman Beyond

Miles vs Blade

Miles vs X-23

Miles vs Black Panther

Miles vs Red Hood

Wins

Miles vs Bane

Miles va Daredevil

Draws

None

This Weeks Match.

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Battle forum rules.

  • Death or KO.
  • Standard Gear. As in gear used more than once and easily reachable for said character.
  • Start 20 feet apart in a city street.
  • No BFR.
  • Morals on and in character.
  • Everyone is current or last seen for versions.

Match will close Friday. Results will be tallied in the next post.

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#3 Edited by deactivated-5a89ca5697052 (8063 posts) - - Show Bio

Damn he won against my boy Matt :/ ...

Cap schools him.

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#5 Posted by AllStarSuperman (43381 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap.

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#6 Posted by SirFizzWhizz (37749 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump

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#7 Posted by Arkbound (1666 posts) - - Show Bio

cap rather easily

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#8 Edited by LordWhiskers (731 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap kills the joke.

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#9 Posted by AllStarSuperman (43381 posts) - - Show Bio

I like how this proved that Red Hood >>>>> Daredevil and Bane.

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#10 Edited by BeaconofStrength (12489 posts) - - Show Bio
@allstarsuperman said:

I like how this proved that Red Hood >>>>> Daredevil and Bane.

Don't start this.

Anyways, Cap wins.

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#11 Edited by BruceRogers (17610 posts) - - Show Bio

And yet, Red Hood barely won a BOTW against Punisher whom everyone agrees will lose to Bane and Daredevil for a majority. GG, Top Kek

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#12 Edited by Wewlad80 (3411 posts) - - Show Bio

@allstarsuperman said:

I like how this proved that Red Hood >>>>> Daredevil and Bane.

New 52/Current Era RedHood is pretty OP.

He can give Slade a decent fight, Meanwhile their Pre 52 counterparts meeting would be a slaughter.

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#13 Posted by BruceRogers (17610 posts) - - Show Bio

@wewlad80: Actually people only voted for Red Hood because they wanted Miles to lose. Not because they think he can actually win lol

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#14 Edited by nickzambuto (29288 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh, he got wins?

He got wins everybody! I almost can't believe it!

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#15 Edited by Wewlad80 (3411 posts) - - Show Bio

@brucerogers said:

@wewlad80: Actually people only voted for Red Hood because they wanted Miles to lose. Not because they think he can actually win lol

Honestly I still think some people voted Jason because he Could actually give Miles trouble. Hes atleast dozens of times more skilled, More experienced, and goes for the kill. I would still give the edge to miles due to being able to dodge almost anything Todd can bring though.

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#16 Edited by LordWhiskers (731 posts) - - Show Bio

@brucerogers: Lol yep. Miles is a disgrace to the Spidey name either way and his unnatural inclusion into 616 is like an invading cancer that just won't die.

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#17 Posted by BruceRogers (17610 posts) - - Show Bio
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#18 Posted by SirFizzWhizz (37749 posts) - - Show Bio

@lordwhiskers: Lol. He really is a bland character

Better than Spider Gwen or Silk IMO. He was a good read in the Ultimate Comics. When he had a solo. Now in the Avengers he is pretty bland indeed.

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#19 Posted by BruceRogers (17610 posts) - - Show Bio
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#20 Posted by Eisenfauste (17366 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap punches his face in.

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#21 Posted by IndomitableRegal (16532 posts) - - Show Bio

He beat DD? Damn. Cap wins. For some reason that's lost on me, he manages to perform well against people like Peter and Iron Man.

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#22 Edited by Black_Arrow (10286 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America.

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#23 Posted by SirFizzWhizz (37749 posts) - - Show Bio
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#25 Posted by Black_Arrow (10286 posts) - - Show Bio

@brucerogers said:

@lordwhiskers: Lol. He really is a bland character

Better than Spider Gwen or Silk IMO. He was a good read in the Ultimate Comics. When he had a solo. Now in the Avengers he is pretty bland indeed.

He still has a "solo" (I put it in quotations marks because every plotline gets dragged by the constant events), It's called "Spider-Man". It's being written by Bendis, the guy who wrote Miles in Ultimate comics.

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#26 Posted by LordWhiskers (731 posts) - - Show Bio

@brucerogers said:

@lordwhiskers: Lol. He really is a bland character

Better than Spider Gwen or Silk IMO. He was a good read in the Ultimate Comics. When he had a solo. Now in the Avengers he is pretty bland indeed.

At this point I hate them just as much if not more so. All these random Spider people running around is detracting from Peter's lore and presence in the comic world.

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#27 Posted by BruceRogers (17610 posts) - - Show Bio

@lordwhiskers: Tell me about it. Now even a Venom-verse is a thing. Lol

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#28 Posted by Amendment50 (15543 posts) - - Show Bio

Boo, the joke is dead.

Looks like he's shaping to lose this thread though which interests me. Arguments for Cap?

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#29 Posted by SirFizzWhizz (37749 posts) - - Show Bio

@sirfizzwhizz said:
@brucerogers said:

@lordwhiskers: Lol. He really is a bland character

Better than Spider Gwen or Silk IMO. He was a good read in the Ultimate Comics. When he had a solo. Now in the Avengers he is pretty bland indeed.

He still has a "solo" (I put it in quotations marks because every plotline gets dragged by the constant events), It's called "Spider-Man". It's being written by Bendis, the guy who wrote Miles in Ultimate comics.

By Solo I mean a comic about him and not a filler comic about the rest of the 616 characters, 616 Peter's shadow, and Miles somewhere.

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#30 Posted by GIliad_ (6654 posts) - - Show Bio

That's a dubious win of Daredevil right there

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#31 Edited by MiracleComeBack (2194 posts) - - Show Bio

it says Daredevil won on the poll, so why did you have him on loss list

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#32 Edited by SirFizzWhizz (37749 posts) - - Show Bio

@miraclecomeback: check the thread again. He lost 48% to 50%. I posted the votes before closing it.

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#33 Posted by TheWatcherKing (18584 posts) - - Show Bio

@brucerogers said:

@lordwhiskers: Lol. He really is a bland character

Better than Spider Gwen or Silk IMO. He was a good read in the Ultimate Comics. When he had a solo. Now in the Avengers he is pretty bland indeed.

If you haven't read Gwen's comics then you're in no position to call her comics bland.

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#34 Posted by SirFizzWhizz (37749 posts) - - Show Bio

@sirfizzwhizz said:
@brucerogers said:

@lordwhiskers: Lol. He really is a bland character

Better than Spider Gwen or Silk IMO. He was a good read in the Ultimate Comics. When he had a solo. Now in the Avengers he is pretty bland indeed.

If you haven't read Gwen's comics then you're in no position to call her comics bland.

I did not call her comics bland, I called her bland.

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#35 Posted by TheWatcherKing (18584 posts) - - Show Bio

@sirfizzwhizz: And? Have you read a single comic with her outside of spider verse?

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#36 Edited by SirFizzWhizz (37749 posts) - - Show Bio

@sirfizzwhizz: And? Have you read a single comic with her outside of spider verse?

Why do I need to? She has the same typical spider powers that everyone else has. Only toned down. Her whole existence is to be a "Female" Spider Man that took the mantle instead of Peter. Something that May Parker did better with her unique upbringing and power set.

But in the end, Im not going to argue with your Spider Gwen fandom. Im not the only one who said she was bland. People want Peter Parker. Not Gwen, Miles, Silk, your mother bitten by a spider, whatever.

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#37 Posted by Black_Arrow (10286 posts) - - Show Bio

@black_arrow said:
@sirfizzwhizz said:
@brucerogers said:

@lordwhiskers: Lol. He really is a bland character

Better than Spider Gwen or Silk IMO. He was a good read in the Ultimate Comics. When he had a solo. Now in the Avengers he is pretty bland indeed.

He still has a "solo" (I put it in quotations marks because every plotline gets dragged by the constant events), It's called "Spider-Man". It's being written by Bendis, the guy who wrote Miles in Ultimate comics.

By Solo I mean a comic about him and not a filler comic about the rest of the 616 characters, 616 Peter's shadow, and Miles somewhere.

I get what you mean, It's crazy the amount of appearances of other heroes in Miles book, the book is barely about Miles and now they have a bland story with Spider Gwen.

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#38 Edited by TheWatcherKing (18584 posts) - - Show Bio

@sirfizzwhizz: I am not arguing I just find it stupid to call someone bland when you don't know anything of them.You just can't say someone is better than another person without having some knowledge on them which you and others don't have.

And people can want peter parker but as things are right now his comics suck and blindly clinging to him despite it doesn't change that.

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#41 Edited by SirFizzWhizz (37749 posts) - - Show Bio

@watcher5000 said:

The story was bland,doesn't change the fact that Gwen and her comics are more interesting than most 1610 characters.

Uh huh. Let me know when Gwen has as much praise or impact as the early Ultimate F4, Spider Man, Ultimates, or X-Men comics. Oh wait, Ultimates and Ultimate Spider Man in 2000s era sold more comics and product than the 616 comics did in the same time period. In fact, it was 1610 characters that MCU Marvel burrows heavily from, and it was Ultimate Spider Man that 616 Spider Man writers started to copy from to make 616 popular again.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2011/06/23/the-legacy-of-ultimate-spider-man

Thats right. Wait, whats that?! Miles #1 Comic broke Digital records for its time?

http://www.newsarama.com/8370-marvel-says-ultimate-spider-man-1-broke-digital-record.html

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2011/09/18-1/ultimate-comics-spider-man-breaks-records

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/comics/marvel_comics/ultimate-comics-spider-man-breaks-records-a46708

Your right though, she is more interesting and sells better than most 1610 characters. Totally.

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#42 Posted by GIliad_ (6654 posts) - - Show Bio
When I see Miles Morales lost to Red Hood
When I see Miles Morales lost to Red Hood

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#43 Edited by TheWatcherKing (18584 posts) - - Show Bio

@sirfizzwhizz: I wasn't serious when I said that which I thought was obvious, but having better sales doesn't make it better in quality honestly.

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#44 Edited by Lvenger (36338 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap has held his own against Spider level characters, his experience and skill could be too much for Miles.