Doctor Strange vs Doomsday

Both are at full power. Who wins?

Strange. Last I checked, Doomsday had no immunities or resistances to Magic. Strange could do anything from make him think he was a 6 year old girl, to turning him inside out and backwards.

Eternal Chaos says:

"Bookman says:

"Both are at full power. Who wins?"

Doomsday moves too fast. If the Doctor had prep or at least time to set up some shields he'd take it."

just how fast do you think doomsday moves?

Bookman says:

"Both are at full power. Who wins?"

Doomsday moves too fast. If the Doctor had prep or at least time to set up some shields he'd take it.

I think Strange could pull it off, giving he had enough time and distance to cast a spell. But, he better make sure the spell he uses takes out Doomsday the first time. If not, he'll run the risk of getting owned. As for Doomsday's speed, he's fast for a being his size, many times faster than a normal human being in terms of running speed.

Eternal Chaos says:

"Apparition says:

"Eternal Chaos says:

"Bookman says:

"Both are at full power. Who wins?"

Doomsday moves too fast. If the Doctor had prep or at least time to set up some shields he'd take it."

just how fast do you think doomsday moves?"

Didn't full power Doomsday move fast enough to kill Superman and beat the rest of the JLA? If that's the case I don't see Stephen winning."

he isnt a speedster. he isnt even as quick as spiderman. he was just quicker than they thought he would be because of his size. strange shouldnt have any problems.

Strange has this one...

he could just transmutate Doomsday into a puddle of milk with a wave of his hand.

M

Apparition says:

"Eternal Chaos says:

"Bookman says:

"Both are at full power. Who wins?"

Doomsday moves too fast. If the Doctor had prep or at least time to set up some shields he'd take it."

just how fast do you think doomsday moves?"

Didn't full power Doomsday move fast enough to kill Superman and beat the rest of the JLA? If that's the case I don't see Stephen winning.

Eternal Chaos says:

"Didn't full power Doomsday move fast enough to kill Superman and beat the rest of the JLA? If that's the case I don't see Stephen winning."

Nope, full power doomsday was only moving at normal speed...

Doomsday has never shown superspeed

M

Eternal Chaos says:

"Ok, now you guys clarified that for me (Thank god) Doctor Strange can take this one. I thought Doomsday moved at that speed because I made the mistake of going to Wiki a few weeks ago. "

lol bad move!

Eternal Chaos says:

"Ok, now you guys clarified that for me (Thank god) Doctor Strange can take this one. I thought Doomsday moved at that speed because I made the mistake of going to Wiki a few weeks ago. "

You have to take that with a grain of salt.

Ok, now you guys clarified that for me (Thank god) Doctor Strange can take this one. I thought Doomsday moved at that speed because I made the mistake of going to Wiki a few weeks ago.

Booster Gold Commenting on how Doomsday is faster then the Flash.

lol

Eternal Chaos says:

"Ok, now you guys clarified that for me (Thank god) Doctor Strange can take this one. I thought Doomsday moved at that speed because I made the mistake of going to Wiki a few weeks ago. "

Come on, pimptight. You know better. DC Database says the same thing, too.

Eternal Chaos says:

"Hey, we all make mistakes, I'm not perfect... it was a bad week, too much boredome. I'm sorry everybody, even Eternal Chaos makes mistakes when not thinking properly. Now that that's been cleared up let's all just erase that from my history. LoL."

Never.

Saves EC's fault in thread to his memory

Hey, we all make mistakes, I'm not perfect... it was a bad week, too much boredome. I'm sorry everybody, even Eternal Chaos makes mistakes when not thinking properly. Now that that's been cleared up let's all just erase that from my history. LoL.

Gambler says:

"Booster Gold Commenting on how Doomsday is faster then the Flash."

This appears to yet again be an example of Hyperbole. What was he measuring this movement with? It was much faster than the normal speed Booster Gold could attain and possibly beyond peak human but we have instances of Captain America and other peak humans moving faster than the eye can follow, so Booster would lose all ability to discern who is faster when approaching peak human speed.

Methos says:

"Gambler says:

"Booster Gold Commenting on how Doomsday is faster then the Flash."

wtf...

i have never seen him use Superspeed...

i think that was just Booster Gold being full of it as usual lol

M

"

Yeah I dont know how much stock I'd put in it, but there's at least one instance where someone comments on his speed.
Post Edited:2008-02-29 20:05:54

booster gold's an idiot.

Gambler says:

"Booster Gold Commenting on how Doomsday is faster then the Flash."

wtf...

i have never seen him use Superspeed...

i think that was just Booster Gold being full of it as usual lol

M

Forever says:

"Gambler says:

"Booster Gold Commenting on how Doomsday is faster then the Flash."

This appears to yet again be an example of Hyperbole. What was he measuring this movement with? It was much faster than the normal speed Booster Gold could attain and possibly beyond peak human but we have instances of Captain America and other peak humans moving faster than the eye can follow, so Booster would lose all ability to discern who is faster when approaching peak human speed."

I can agree with this, but we could also look at it another way. This was Doomsday's coming out party so to speak, his first showing. Now which is more likely (from a creators point of view) that Booster Gold is simply mistaking and or has nothing to compare Doomsday's actual speed to? Or that the creators of Doomsday are trying to show the reader just how fast there monster is? I guess its a matter of opinion.
Post Edited:2008-02-29 20:09:34

Methos says:

"wtf...i have never seen him use Superspeed...i think that was just Booster Gold being full of it as usual lolM"

Probably.

Methos says:

"Gambler says:

"Booster Gold Commenting on how Doomsday is faster then the Flash."

wtf... i have never seen him use Superspeed... i think that was just Booster Gold being full of it as usual lol M "

NO!!!! He must be right!!!!

Apparition says:

"booster gold's an idiot."

LOL. I couldn't agree more.

Eternal Chaos says:

"NO!!!! He must be right!!!!"

M

Gambler says:

"I can agree with this, but we could also look at it another way. This was Doomsday's coming out party so to speak, his first showing. No which is more likely (from a creators point of view) that Booster Gold is simply mistaking and or has nothing to compare Doomsday's actual speed to? Or that the creators of Doomsday are trying to show the reader just how fast there monster is? I guess its a matter of opinion."

I trust in Apparition...

Apparition says:

"booster gold's an idiot."

M

Gambler says:

"Forever says:

"Gambler says:

"Booster Gold Commenting on how Doomsday is faster then the Flash. "

This appears to yet again be an example of Hyperbole. What was he measuring this movement with? It was much faster than the normal speed Booster Gold could attain and possibly beyond peak human but we have instances of Captain America and other peak humans moving faster than the eye can follow, so Booster would lose all ability to discern who is faster when approaching peak human speed."

I can agree with this, but we could also look at it another way. This was Doomsday's coming out party so to speak, his first showing. Now which is more likely (from a creators point of view) that Booster Gold is simply mistaking and or has nothing to compare Doomsday's actual speed to? Or that the creators of Doomsday are trying to show the reader just how fast there monster is? I guess its a matter of opinion.
Post Edited:2008-02-29 20:09:34"

That's possible to, but I have to keep asking, if he was moving so slowly, how is it that his "normal" speed was so overwhelming for everybody? If he was moving that slowly, shouldn't Superman have been able to punch circles around him and dodge his hits? What about the others? They should've been able to avoid him if he was moving at normal speed. That little minor detail is bothering me and I can't help but come back to it because what if he really is moving insanely fast? What if he really is such a threat?

Gambler says:

"I can agree with this, but we could also look at it another way. This was Doomsday's coming out party so to speak, his first showing. Now which is more likely (from a creators point of view) that Booster Gold is simply mistaking and or has nothing to compare Doomsday's actual speed to? Or that the creators of Doomsday are trying to show the reader just how fast there monster is? I guess its a matter of opinion.
Post Edited:2008-02-29 20:09:34"

I agree with you entirely. My first response was to explain it within the confines of the comic book world, but since you've stepped outside the box, I think that is exactly what happened. The character was created to kill Superman and to really be dangerous enough to do so they created him with the correct attributes to get the job done. The problem is that they didn't hold true to that with the character and so his quickness, taken in light of all of his showings, appears to be far below what was stated in that panel.

Forever says:

"Gambler says:

"I can agree with this, but we could also look at it another way. This was Doomsday's coming out party so to speak, his first showing. Now which is more likely (from a creators point of view) that Booster Gold is simply mistaking and or has nothing to compare Doomsday's actual speed to? Or that the creators of Doomsday are trying to show the reader just how fast there monster is? I guess its a matter of opinion.
Post Edited:2008-02-29 20:09:34"

I agree with you entirely. My first response was to explain it within the confines of the comic book world, but since you've stepped outside the box, I think that is exactly what happened. The character was created to kill Superman and to really be dangerous enough to do so they created him with the correct attributes to get the job done. The problem is that they didn't hold true to that with the character and so his quickness, taken in light of all of his showings, appears to be far below what was stated in that panel."

Thats a good point. In fact there's a scan of Superman facing off against Doomsday again, and actually moving so fast that Dooms cant land a shot.

Methos says:

"Eternal Chaos says:

"NO!!!! He must be right!!!!"

M "

I can't help but think just a little bit that he's super fast. LoL.

Methos says:

"Gambler says:

"I can agree with this, but we could also look at it another way. This was Doomsday's coming out party so to speak, his first showing. No which is more likely (from a creators point of view) that Booster Gold is simply mistaking and or has nothing to compare Doomsday's actual speed to? Or that the creators of Doomsday are trying to show the reader just how fast there monster is? I guess its a matter of opinion."

I trust in Apparition... Apparition says:

"booster gold's an idiot."

M"

Static Shock says:

"Apparition says:

"booster gold's an idiot."

LOL. I couldn't agree more."

lol thank you both!

Gambler says:

"Thats a good point. In fact there's a scan of Superman facing off against Doomsday again, and actually moving so fast that Dooms cant land a shot. "

Yes I think at that point they backed off his earlier power set to give Superman a chance against him. As he was first written he was more than a match for any physical attack Superman would give and once he was "reborn" from Superman's killing blow, should have had no trouble at all in any subsequent fights with the Man of Steel

Forever says:

"Gambler says:

"Thats a good point. In fact there's a scan of Superman facing off against Doomsday again, and actually moving so fast that Dooms cant land a shot. "

Yes I think at that point they backed off his earlier power set to give Superman a chance against him. As he was first written he was more than a match for any physical attack Superman would give and once he was "reborn" from Superman's killing blow, should have had no trouble at all in any subsequent fights with the Man of Steel"

Its almost as if they didn't expect him to be a reoccurring character. Then after they decided to bring him back they needed to scale him down a lil.

Gambler says:

"Its almost as if they didn't expect him to be a reoccurring character. Then after they decided to bring him back they needed to scale him down a lil."

Either they didnt expect him to be reoccurring or they didn't use enough foresight. Or perhaps they were going to give Superman a boost when he came back and decided against it because of the way it would effect his dealings with the rest of his rogue's gallery, which I guess would again be a lack of foresight.

i think they just didn't expect him to become a recurring character which is why they made him so powerful...

it's even commented on by Cyborg Superman afterwards that Green Lantern should have been able to atomize Doomsday's body with his ring...

slight blooper there as Green Lantern never fought Doomsday lol

M

Methos says:

"i think they just didn't expect him to become a recurring character which is why they made him so powerful...it's even commented on by Cyborg Superman afterwards that Green Lantern should have been able to atomize Doomsday's body with his ring...slight blooper there as Green Lantern never fought Doomsday lolM"

Thee Green Lantern may never have, but there are some GL's who have. And failed :P

Methos says:

"i think they just didn't expect him to become a recurring character which is why they made him so powerful...it's even commented on by Cyborg Superman afterwards that Green Lantern should have been able to atomize Doomsday's body with his ring...slight blooper there as Green Lantern never fought Doomsday lolM"

Yes interesting how the characters who would have had a better chance, or at least as good a one, as Superman, didnt actually happen to be available.

Methos says:

"i think they just didn't expect him to become a recurring character which is why they made him so powerful... it's even commented on by Cyborg Superman afterwards that Green Lantern should have been able to atomize Doomsday's body with his ring... slight blooper there as Green Lantern never fought Doomsday lol M"

That's one hell of a blooper.

the only person with Green Lantern like abilities to fight Doomsday was Guy Gardner with an old style yellow ring, and he couldn't do sod all to Doomsday with it...

M

Gambler says:

"Maybe he meant Guy Gardner?"

see above post :p

M

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:P thats why I deleted it. But he has fought other GL's and a Guardian. (not sure if you meant ever, or just in his original showing)

yeah, fighting against Green Lantern's is weird... it depends entirely on the Green Lantern you're facing at the time as to how the battle goes

M

ulitmateninjagaidenx says:

"so really thair nobody in dc or marvel can stop doomsday?"

i think we've established that a fully powered Dr Strange could do it

M

ulitmateninjagaidenx says:

"so really thair nobody in dc or marvel can stop doomsday?"

jeez read a post or something!

so really thair nobody in dc or marvel can stop doomsday?

thinking about it, the JLA that fought Doomsday at his height was pretty piss poor...

look at the lineup...

Booster Gold, Guy Gardner, Fire, Ice, Bloodwynd...

was there anyone else?

M

i dont think so but wasn't bloodwynd really martian manhunter?

Static Shock says:

"Apparition says:

"ulitmateninjagaidenx says:

"so really thair nobody in dc or marvel can stop doomsday?"

jeez read a post or something!"

Don't think he ever does. LOL"

lol