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  • Basic Knowledge
  • In character
  • Win by any means
  • SPEED EQUALIZED
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#2 Posted by ValorKnight (12379 posts) - - Show Bio

I mean, I guess Yami wins. It's impossible for Kakashi to even see him move, let alone actually tag him with anything, so Sukehiro most likely slices him up without a second thought or any relevant retaliation.

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#3 Posted by batsywhyyoudead (48 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm going to side with kakashi high diff

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#4 Posted by maxxcveiler (1020 posts) - - Show Bio

kakashi beats the wrinkled man

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#5 Posted by ValorKnight (12379 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm going to side with kakashi high diff

kakashi beats the wrinkled man

How does Kakashi defeat a faster than light character with the destructive capacity to one-shot him?

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#6 Posted by Wanderez (1714 posts) - - Show Bio

Yami blitzes and one shots with dimensional slasher.

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#7 Posted by deactivated-5c9011bc9c6e9 (616 posts) - - Show Bio

Yami cuts between dimensions so that should bypass Kakashi's intangibility

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#8 Posted by deactivated-5c531dce659a2 (1106 posts) - - Show Bio

How fast is Yami?

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#9 Posted by ValorKnight (12379 posts) - - Show Bio

@vummax said:

How fast is Yami?

Casually faster than light.

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#10 Posted by Yamiyodare (1254 posts) - - Show Bio

I do not know the character well, but I saw his abilities and thanks to his enormous magic level, he could possibly win against DMS Kakashi.

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#13 Posted by ValorKnight (12379 posts) - - Show Bio

SPEED EQUALIZED

In that case, I don't think Yami has what it takes to win.

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#14 Edited by ProbablyASphere (531 posts) - - Show Bio
@vummax said:

How fast is Yami?

Casually faster than light.

He isn't. Read the manga. No one in Black Clover is FTL. I caught up with it just because of this stupid thing going around. Light magic does not mean light speed.

Kakashi absolutely stomps no contest

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#15 Posted by ValorKnight (12379 posts) - - Show Bio

@valorknight said:
@vummax said:

How fast is Yami?

Casually faster than light.

He isn't. Read the manga. No one in Black Clover is FTL. I caught up with it just because of this stupid thing going around. Light magic does not mean light speed.

Kakashi absolutely stomps no contest

It literally said on the page that light magic was light speed, bud.

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#16 Posted by deactivated-5c531dce659a2 (1106 posts) - - Show Bio

@valorknight: Would you recommend the anime? I like Manga but watching is better than reading IMO.

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#17 Posted by ValorKnight (12379 posts) - - Show Bio

@vummax said:

@valorknight: Would you recommend the anime? I like Manga but watching is better than reading IMO.

As long as you go with the subbed version, it's pretty good.

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#18 Posted by deactivated-5c531dce659a2 (1106 posts) - - Show Bio

@valorknight: Alright cool I always see it on crunchyroll but I've never seen it. I've heard that Asta can be a bit annoying.

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#19 Posted by ProbablyASphere (531 posts) - - Show Bio

@valorknight: I'm gonna need proof of that because I absolutely do not remember it. Was it the first time they showed light magic or when the Emperor fought the dude? It most certainly goes against everything else the manga shows

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#20 Posted by iOmegaTempest (85 posts) - - Show Bio

Dunno much about Yami but Kakashi DMS is intangible. Plus equalized speed... kamui oneshots?

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#22 Posted by FaradaySloth (9263 posts) - - Show Bio

Kakashi fairly easy

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#23 Posted by HypeBeastCSB15 (1281 posts) - - Show Bio

Kakashi due to a broader arsenal and intellect. If speed wasn't equalized, then I'd say yami wins high-diff

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#24 Posted by americanspeeddemon (7210 posts) - - Show Bio

@SouskueMadara: The two lightspeed quotes I remember are Patri being lightspeed and Rhya being lightspeed.

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#25 Posted by FlashingSabre (3863 posts) - - Show Bio

Yami isn't some kind of lightspeed blitz machine. All of his speed is reactive. He can't run or attack anywhere near lightspeed.

Kakashi should be able to win via Kamui snipe, the same way Elf Langris was kicking Yami's ass.

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#26 Edited by batsywhyyoudead (48 posts) - - Show Bio

@valorknight: speed has been equalized so, none of that faster than light nonsense. Kakashi has a lot more versatility and can bfr him with kamui.

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#29 Edited by Wanderez (1714 posts) - - Show Bio

@hypebeastcsb15:

You gotta admit that if speed wasnt equal Yami wins cause he blitzes, but you still gotta say "high diff" to make yourself feel better about the fact that Yami also one shots Kakashi.

Its kinda sad imo 😂

Please, dont mind me though.

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#30 Posted by ProbablyASphere (531 posts) - - Show Bio

@SouskueMadara: The two lightspeed quotes I remember are Patri being lightspeed and Rhya being lightspeed.

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Yeah, I don't believe that. None of the sources I read said light speed. In fact, here is one that doesn't.

https://s3.mkklcdnv3.com/mangakakalot/b1/black_clover/chapter_51_third_eye/6.jpg

Read the story some and contextually it doesn't make any sense for anyone to be light speed as well. I haven't watched the anime since episode 3 since it was annoying as fuck, but it could probably help clear this up a tad bit.

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#32 Posted by Skrskr (3478 posts) - - Show Bio

@SouskueMadara: it doesn’t matter if you believe anything, the mangaka literally took time out to write that they can move at light speed.

So your headcanon means absolutely nothing at all.

You would have an argument if he said “moves like light”

At that point you could argue hyperbole

But it literally says they move “at the speed of light”

There is nothing to argue

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#33 Posted by AlexTheBoss (17429 posts) - - Show Bio

@valorknight: Here, this thread is for you.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/black-clover-characters-arent-light-speed-1994894/

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#34 Posted by ProbablyASphere (531 posts) - - Show Bio

@skrskr: Entirely ignoring the counter argument I showed you, but okay. I see there is no point here. Enjoy.

DMS Kakashi stomps still

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#35 Posted by Skrskr (3478 posts) - - Show Bio

@SouskueMadara: so there it is, you blatantly go against mangakas words just because you are a naruto fanboy.

On topic it goes either way

He kills Kakashi with dimensional slicer

Or kakashi kills him with kamui shuriken and better intelligence.

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#36 Posted by REQUIEMCROSS (461 posts) - - Show Bio

Mismatch. Kakashi will win.

Reasons:

Speed is equalize, the sharingan still has an advantage.

Both have basic knowledge, Kakashi is a shinobi. He won't hesitate to use those knowledge in his advantage.

Win by any means and In character, Kakashi was an Anbu. He won't hesitate to use dirty tactics.

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#37 Posted by GohanDorado (374 posts) - - Show Bio

@valorknight: Considering how Kakashi is an experienced Joinin and has mangekyou precog. That seems unlikely.

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#38 Edited by LoveEveryone (1116 posts) - - Show Bio

Kakashi has the AOE to crush Yami with PS. But without speed equalized it’s pretty much a one sided battle. Kakashi doesn’t have the speed to tag em. Even BOS Black Clover Characters had LS reactions and movement apparently from dodging mirror magic. But if you ask me it’s too much for Kakashi. Yami wins. Although I dislike how amped Black Clover speed is so early in the franschise despite never going through serious on screen training to obtain such powers to react and move so fast. Which is unusual for the norm of manga series who have their main character become faster and stronger by training.

Oh wait *SPEED IS EQUALIZED* ? Kakashi stomps. He’s one of the most Haxed broken characters in Naruto and his Kamui PS ignores conventional durability.

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#39 Posted by Mee09 (5711 posts) - - Show Bio

With equalized speed Yami has no chance

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#40 Posted by Gilateen (3707 posts) - - Show Bio

Kakashi wins

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#41 Posted by Hope_w (2834 posts) - - Show Bio

Kakashi no diffs. Having an attack that cuts dimensions =/= having access to a remote dimension.

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#42 Edited by ourmanuel (11388 posts) - - Show Bio

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#43 Edited by GXrevs06 (4585 posts) - - Show Bio

Yami could one shot with his dimensional slicer