DMS Kakashi and Adult Sasuke vs So6P Naruto and Juubidara

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DMS Kakashi has no limitation.

Who wins ?

Naruto and Madara.

Madara can handle Kakashi easily and Naruto can handle Sasuke fine.

Not really fair unless you give Kakashi infinite time with DMS since it disappeared after barely a chapter.

Team 1 easily if you restrict immortality. Adult Sasuke takes care of Naruto. DMS Kakashi kind of stomps Madara.

DMS disappeared because Obito left Kakashi's body, since the battle with Kaguya was over.

That's head canon. When Obito died he only had a tiny amount of Six Paths Chakra, that Madara literally stated when Obito took it from him

@antonio_1996: neither of the things you said adds up bro.

Sasuke already failed to beat a jobbing Naruto while he had a massive amp. And nothing Kakashi has counters immortality.

@sup3rn0va: You're clearly a commie, bruh.

It's not headcanon when the manga clearly shows that Obito left Kakashi's body with a goodbye and reached heaven, because the battle was over.

Team 1 wins with Kakashi being able to maintain DMS, Madara can't harm him, even with TSB's (Contrary to people saying TSB's let you hit intangible people, Madara was unable to hit Obito with them when he went intangible.)

Adult Sasuke vs Teen Naruto is a toss up imo (Teen Naruto was shown to be quite far above Teen Sasuke), but Kakashi will defeat Madara and help Sasuke.

@adamantine: This is Adult Sasuke who's comparable to Adult Naruto who's stronger than Teen Naruto. He's far more skilled and he tends to abuse his Rinnegan powers more. He beats Naruto.

Secondly, if you read my post clearly, I said "Team 1 wins if immortality is restricted" because I know Kakashi nor Sasuke can seal him away. But in a straight up fight, then yes, DMS Kakashi would stomp Madara as he doesn't have any counter to Kakashi's Kamui Hax.

@sup3rn0va: @antonio_1996: Naruto as a teen has better feats than the adult version of himself (Boruto is crap imo) Kakashi can't stay intangible for ever and Light Fang should kill him no problem.

@sup3rn0va: How does he beat Madara though?

He could eventually BFR him, since OP didn't state, we have to use standard rules which means a character can win by any means.

Team 2 stomps, juubidara takes easy care of kakashi and naruto can hold back Adult sasuke long enough for juubidara to help him

@sup3rn0va: Madara can switch places with a limbo before Kamui bfr gets him.

Now that I'm thinking about it more, I can't really see Kakashi being able to BFR Madara since he needs to leave his intangibility to do so.

Team two probably does win then, solely due to Kakashi not having any way to kill/BRF Madara

You know it's funny because people are automatically putting sasuke up against Naruto.

How im putting it. DMS kakashi vs Naruto kakashi one shots Naruto.

Adult sasuke vs Madara. Sasuke stomps.

Simple.

@kalebsmarty156: How does he one shot Naruto? His time limit doesn't allow him enough Kamui for 2000+ one shots. And Naruto has pre cog

Sasuke vs Madara is a long battle that won't end without Sasuke being hurt or tired.

Team 2 wins in a curb stomp.

Naruto Spams 1000 CLones which would swarm Kakashi or Sasuke, Limbo pretty much solos since Kakashi can't even see it.

Madara can practically solo.

And Naruto> Sasuke any day without Plot.

Team 2 easy.

DMS Kakashi vs Naruto - Naruto should win

Madara vs Adult Sasuke - Sasuke stomps

Just how I see it

@adamantine: Doesn't matter if Naruto as a Teen has better feats. Adult Naruto has better scaling as he has the other half of Kurama and still has SPSM.

Kakashi doesn't need to stay intangible forever. Even 5 minutes is enough to K.O Madara cause Kakashi can oneshot. And LF is useless when it'll never hit Kakashi. Heck, Sasuke can even switch places with Naruto and let him get hit with LF. Team 1 stomps.

@antonio_1996:

Feats are all that matters and Teen Naruto has the better feats, Kakashi can't KO or Kill Madara and neither Kakashi nor Sasuke have LS reactions feats. Madara is Immortal nothing Kakashi does is one shoting him he litterally ran around missing half his body

Limbo clones one-shot Kakashi.

Sasuke has no feats above Madara. also Madara scales above Hagoromo, who is above Sasuke&naruto.

Kamui is a targeting move, not an AOE move. All naruto needs to do is make 100+ clones and Kakashi can't win. Sasuke has never faced 1000 clones.

Not only that Adult Sasuke has just=adult Naruto who is weaker than his prime self.

Kakashi has a 5 min intangibility timer and Madara is faster than Kamui.

Naruto > sauce

This is really absurd that people can't accept that Madara is stronger than Adult Sasuke, then they talk about feats yet no one has posted one feat of Sasuke that surpasses what Madara did.

Sasuke As an Adult Now Equals Adult Naruto. someone point out what feats do Adult Naruto have in Boruto?

Madara wins and can solo here because he has more power, has higher feats, more hax than anyone on Team 1.

planet level Jutsu From Madara.

planet Level feat from Madara.

Name one Jutsu from Sasuke that scales to this? I'll wait.

Madara wins and solos because he preformed two planet level feats back to back.

Adult Sasuke has not even done close to this level of Feats.

@adamantine: Your argument is absurd. Using your feats only argument SSB Goku is weaker than SSG cause the former doesn't have superior feats. Logically Adult Naruto is more superior. And he does also have superior striking feats.

Secondly, if you read my posts again for the second time, you'd know that I agree on the fact that Kakashi can't permanently kill Madara. I'm just saying in a straight up fight with no immortality involved, Kakashi would beat Madara rather easily for obvious reasons.

@antonio_1996: SSB has faced stronger people meaning it has better feats. Madara doesn't need immortality.

@adamantine: But your argument was about feats. Using your rule, SSG would be stronger for creating shockwaves for threatening the Universe.

Except he does. Madara gets stomped by either Adult Sasuke or DMS Kakashi in a fight immortality. Stop kidding yourself.

@antonio_1996: Fighting stronger people is a feat lmao.

No Madara would school him that's a fact.

Honestly team 1 stomps. Madara is borderline useless here unless he spams everything he should be able to do. Kakashis eyes are imbued with Six paths chakra, he should be able to see Limbo.

Though Naruto can take a slim majority over both (he knows the secret to Kamui and his clones are fast enough to surprise him) both at the same time, especially with Madara more or less in the way he cant take them both nor account for Hax.

You need Rinnegan to see the Limbo clones.

Naruto can Feel them with because he has Six paths Chakra. At best Kakashi would be able to feel them not see them.

that isn't enough since Limbo with a Strike can send Naruto flying with one punch.

Adult Sasuke has no feats above Madara's.

Kakashi would be overpowered by 4 Limbos, None of them have Reaction speed to dodge Light Fang..

LMFAO...what type of argument is that? This isn't DBZ or DBS so why even bring that up?

you are using examples from other Series to debate, against another Series. FYI Jiren Blocked an attack from SSG with his finger, while SSB forced Jiren to actually fight.

SSB>>>>>SSG.

Madara feats are above Adult Sasuke's Feat.

Madara solos.

@mygod000: Please don't ever tag me again. Thank you.

LMFAO. Dude arguments get wrecked now he doesn't want me to tag him ever.

Ight, don't use Illogical Examples that have nothing to do With Naruto series.

SSB>>>>>>>>SSG. to even make that argument saying SSG is more powerful is just plain silly.

It's a wrap

Sasuke solos.

Naruto also lost TSB and Six Paths Yang Power, so it's not a clear cut superior just because you come later. Even for the DB example, SSB has more power than SSG, but SSG uses less stamina, so they both got their own perks. That being said, I'm still saying SSB > SSG, and Adult Naruto > Teen Naruto, just for different reasons.

Team 2 has no answer to Kamui

Sasuke is enough to hold team off. Team 1 wins via BFR.

No if you had a rule like:

BFR'd opponents are returned to the Battlefield after 1 minute

Then Naruto solos.

@revold When is it stated that Naruto lost Six Paths Yang power? He still has Six-Paths Chakra, as seen in The Last when he touches the TSB with no ill effects.

As far as I am concerned, Current Naruto > EoS Naruto, by like, A Lot. He gained the other half of Kurama and has been training for more than a decade, and he only needed BSM to trash a So6p Character in The Last. We already saw that 50% Kurama >> 6 Tailed Beasts, and that 50% Kurama > 100% 8-Tails. It isn't a stretch to say that 100% Kurama > All Tailed Beasts.

at best you could argue that 1-8 Tails combined are = Kurama. In which case, Naruto didn't actually lose any power between EoS and Boruto, he actually Gained some due to his Base power increasing. All he lost were the TSBs. While valuable, he also gained Hashirama cells and his Regen. Presumably, he can also use Wood Style now, although he never does...

Thats never been stated, implicated, hinted, or even remotely suggested. Also theoretically speaking their is no reason whatsoever (other than I guess him not being an Uchiha) they didnt evolve into the Rinnegan upon being amped by six paths Chakra when Sasuke basically did the same.

It's Implied you can't even see them or interact with them what so ever. Sasuke Was only able to see them when he gained Rinnegan. If just having Six path Chakra is required for you to see them then Naruto would have seen them but he couldn't he could only sense them.

if you have Rinnegan you can intervene in an adjacent world.

Honestly go and read the series Naruto. It's a very important reason why Naruto senses things, something Kakashi lacks.

I know why Naruto can sense them, I've read the whole series LMFAO. Kakashi can sense them but nothing implies he can see them.

The same punch Sasuke casually guarded against....what is this logic?

Sasuke Never Fought the Limbo clones. If you are talking about Naruto fighting them, then guess...what he lost against them. which is consistent with what was being stated about the Clones, that going up against this ability results in you losing against such a powerful enemy.

His Rinnegan abilities, speed advantage, and superior offensive arsenal Rend Madara Asunder. Kakashi Kamui blitzing him then Sasuke sealing is practically unstoppable and uncounterable even if he told them exactly what they were going to do.

Everything Sasuke has get negated by Madara TSB or he just absorbs it with Rinnegan. what Superior Speed? Last I checked Sasuke the only advantage is his ability to place himself a distance away from harm. Madara jus replaces it away with Limbo and then creates another Limbo clone in its place.

Madara's Feats are far above what Sasuke has done as an Adult. Adult sasuke=Adult Naruto now, who was knocked out by a Country-level attack from Momoshiki. It was stated that Naruto could have easily destroyed the attack but it would have killed everyone else next to them so he decided to take the damage upon himself.

Madara uses Country-level attacks as Distractions, his upper limits are way beyond a country level which is enough to Knock out Adult Naruto.

Kakashi dodged Kaguyas much faster projectiles casually and Sasuke could atleast percieve them meaning he can teleport away from them. Limbo is absolutely worthless against Kakashi and is Fodder against Sasuke whose dealt with Narutos clone spam.

Honestly dont even bother tagging me again. Practically everything I just said is irrefutable by simply reading through the series.

Where is the proof that these Attacks are faster than Light Fang? which was Stated by the Creator to be undodgeable?

Naruto Being able to Dodge them is a complete outlier because he never did anything on that level again.

he couldn't even Dodge attacks from Shin and needed to shield himself from them. I'm pretty sure those attacks were not all going at light speed since even the kids could somewhat see them.

@mygod000: LOL, you think I don't want you to tag me cause you think I can't respond to you? I'm refusing to debate you cause you literally lose every debate I've seen you in and because you're a known Madara wanker. There's no point in debating you when I already know we'll just go around in circles.

@revold: Except you're dead wrong. It's already been confirmed in the novel that Naruto still has the power of all the tailed Beasts and that he still has the Sage's Chakra.

LMFAO who did I lose in a debate against? that is your opinion. I've been proven people wrong...who wank Naruto to levels he isn't at.

you must be reading to much into Seththeprogrammer videos too much. he cools in all but some of his logic doesn't work.

Naruto weaker now then he was back then.

I didn't claim otherwise for either of these you said. I said TSB and Six Paths Yang Power.