Despero, Thanos, Darkseid, Zoom, Brutaal vs SBP, ION SY, Flash, MMH, Black Adam, Silver Surfer, Atrocitus, Sinestro

Zolomon Hunter Zoom - Wally West Flash - ION Sodam Yat - Silver Surfer isn't amped up or anything.

Bloodlusted. To Deah or KO. No Bfr.

VS

Going to side with team 1, too much raw and telepathic power on their side (although team 2 has SBP and J'onn)

LOL good one spite against team 1 boy prime solos and stomps with sodam its a slaughter.

I don't know much on Sodom or Brutaal, but...

Despero owns J'onnz.

Thanos owns Surfer.

Darkseid owns Adam.

Flash and Zoom pretty much cancel each other out.

This leaves SBP vs those winners. I don't know many feats on Prime, but I'd like to think the odds are heavily against him.

If I'm not wrong, Zoom must stomp Flash

Hunter solos.

Team 1 is WAY op

You're right. Zoom > Wally.

As for the battle, team 1 wins.

Tbh the Flash/Surfer duo could be a massive threat once Zooms out of the equation, Darksied and Thanos is a MASSIVE edge. IF SBP can take one of them out (Preferably Thanos) than team 2 has a shot, despero is still a HUGE threat capable of sweeping these guys though.

Team 1

@franky666: Prime and sodam do slaughter.

@dawnone: Neither of them have any TP resistance, they get oneshotted by Despero.

Team villain is looking pretty OP so I'll side with them.

Added Atrocitus and Sinestro to Team 2

Zoom still solos in a hundredth of a femtosecond.

Zoom isn't soloing. He can't hurt Prime. Team 1 does win however.

Despero puts them in a coma. Thanos pimpsmacks surfer,sinestro and atroticus.

@highaccuser: Even if we're to accept that(as Zoom essentially has nigh limitless potential for KE energy output I don't) how does Prime go about tagging him with anything? In fact how would he know what to hit?

@juiceboks: Flying into space and nuking him with heat vision or blowing up the planet (he's never done it but considering his feats I don't see why he can't and he can always just build momentum and fly through it at light speed like he planned to do to Oa).

This is assuming Zoom doesn't just break his fists or tire himself out punching Prime which he realistically would.

I would say team 2 gets semi brutalized until its pretty much every one in team 1 vs SBP who lasts a while but eventually gets put down.

@highaccuser: His heat vision hasn't shown to be that powerful and I'd argue he hasn't been particular creative with his powers to think to use them to cover the planet.

Why would he? Bart, Jay and Wally didnt when blitzing Prime and Zoom has shown to be able to hit considerably harder than they have. Zoom could take a 30 minute break between punching Prime 100 times and he still wouldnt have moved an inch. That's the advantage of living in your own timeline, Hunter has literally all the time in the world to wear him down and if Wally and Bart can can at least cause visible harm to him then Zoom can eventually take him down.

You forget zoom's penchant for jobbing. He never fights with full efficiency except against wally. He got himself tagged by Hal and some amazons. He also has not demonstrated anything near the power output to bring down prime, as his punches didn't even seriously injure WW. Sure, in theory he should virtually be able to solo, but in practice he hasn't had too much luck or the feats to suggest he is able to do so.

The only solution team 1 has against prime is TP, as otherwise prime eviscerates them all. As a result of TP, team 1 takes it if they play smart. If J'onn occupies them long enough for prime to disembowel despero and bruutal, the tide changes quickly.

@wf_mxyzptlk: I didnt forget that Zoom can job. The OP states he's bloodlusted.

He also wasn't trying to pound Diana into the pavement as he is here(and she still remarked on how hard he punched her). He holds back against heroes as fighting otherwise would defeat the purpose of him engaging them in the first place.

I didn't notice that. In that case, surfer becomes a much bigger player and the dynamic totally shifts towards zoom.

Ok heres how this goes

Zoom blitz the lanterns before they can react and then defeats wally.

Thanos rag dolls surfer and adam

Darksiede ragdolls MMH

idk brutaal an despro

After this superboy prime and ion take the charge zoom begins a blitz and darksiede fires his omega beams at ion trying to prevent him from creating constructs. Thanos gets into a fist fight with superboy prime using his shields to absorb his damage then while ION is busy with DS zoom blitz prime eventually due to zooms blits thanos b arely defeats prime. Then the 3 of them stomp ION. I'd say the 3 ik of win this 6/10.

@juiceboks:

@highaccuser: His heat vision hasn't shown to be that powerful and I'd argue he hasn't been particular creative with his powers to think to use them to cover the planet.

He carved an S into a planet and planned to do so to Earth. No he's never used his powers that way but it's quite literally going to take at least several days from Zoom to actually knock Prime out so he has time to think it over.

Why would he? Bart, Jay and Wally didnt when blitzing Prime and Zoom has shown to be able to hit considerably harder than they have.

They have aura that gives them some durability. Zoom doesn't.

Zoom could take a 30 minute break between punching Prime 100 times and he still wouldnt have moved an inch. That's the advantage of living in your own timeline, Hunter has literally all the time in the world to wear him down and if Wally and Bart can can at least cause visible harm to him then Zoom can eventually take him down.

Causing Prime visible harm has nothing to do with actually knocking him out or even coming close. Prime tanked a half galaxy busting explosion that shredded the Anti-Monitor and it's basically impossible for a simple team buster to actually cause him relevant amounts of pain.

@highaccuser: A couple years for Zoom could be a nanosecond for Prime if Hunter decides to stretch it out as much as possible. He's bloodlusted so I'd imagine he'd do whatever it takes.

Regardless Zoom has tanked blows from Wally while going all out. He may not be connected to the Speed Force but his powers clearly work to give him a noticeable degree of superhuman durability. Certainly enough to withstand punching Prime as other speedsters have.

It shows that they can at the very least cause damage to him, damage that Zoom can not only exceed but accumulate 10's of thousands of times before Clark can recognize who he's even fighting (if for whatever reason Hunter stops moving). Clark's resistance to energy attacks seems to be much more impressive than his resistance to blunt force. Like I said, it could take Zoom 5 months but with his powers Prime can't retaliate unless Hunter lets him. Connor has a finite threshold for damage, while Zoom's ability to manipulate his own timeline doesnt.

Prime would be the one left standing he might be in trouble