Rules:
-As stated, this is a H2H combat match. Thor is de-powered and is just as strong and durable as Slade.
-Morals off.
-Random encounter.
-Location:
Deathstroke vs Thor (H2H combat)
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@Fetts:
You should de-power Thor, to Deathstroke level physical abilities, otherwise Slade has no chance.
Does Thor have blood? If he does he can bleed. If he talks? He has a throat? If he has a throat? He can have it cut. Slade makes Thor choke on his own blood via throat slitting. Thor's only chance for victory is if he spits his own blood at Slade's one eye just like they do in porn. Then when Slade is trying to wipe the blood out of his eye Thor gives him an Asgardian Pile Driver. Except except Deathstroke can fight with his eye closed, so if he starts the fight with his eye closed he wins. Eye open he loses. As simple as that.
@Morpheus_: What if he did something intelligent like a nerve strike? Or would that even work?I would imagine that for a nerve strike to work on Thor, the character attempting it would still require a degree of sufficient superhuman strength for the application of the strike to have an effect. And that kind of strength is something Slade severely lacks. He doesn't really use nerve strikes, either.
@SC said:Thor's only chance for victory is if he spits his own blood at Slade's one eye just like they do in porn.
Now I know where Gail Simone ripped that move off.
Gail Simone is a very deviant minded person. I would not be surprised if all her comic book plots were ripped straight from the Best of Ron Jeremy Selection. Not that I disapprove. Its something I think we should all endorse as long as she stops playing favorites.
@angryvigilante said:
@yumyumbubblegum: Thor is still a very capable warrior and would give Slade a very hard time.
Not if he's the crippled Don Blake.
I'm still giving this to thor. I scanned some thor feats h2h in thor vs tony starks thread ... and I still think w/ 1000's of years of fighting and some of his h2h feats depowered he would be able to take deathstroke in a hard fought battle.
Thousands of years of combat experience can equal hand-to-hand capability despite the quantity of display, thus I give my vote to Thor, believing him to be the more prominent fighter.
@Fetts:
That's a better balance.
With that said i think Slade takes this, Thor is reasonable warrior, but i haven't seen him pull of any H2H feats that would constitute a win for him.
Slade it is.
When h2h feats involve taking a few fodder thugs (street level 101) and thousands of years of experience involves overpowering dumb@ss monsters with a plot device hammer and superior stats, that doesn't equal superior h2h skills. Thor has done nothing to say he is better Slade at all in h2h combat.
WE'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEEEEEARS.When h2h feats involve taking a few fodder thugs (street level 101) and thousands of years of experience involves overpowering dumb@ss monsters with a plot device hammer and superior stats, that doesn't equal superior h2h skills. Thor has done nothing to say he is better Slade at all in h2h combat.
@texasdeathmatch said:
@god_spawn: haha I know, I'm just waiting for someone to post that scan of a de-powered Thor fighting a bunch of zombie warriors (or whatever they are) and claim that's why he's so good in h2h.
Or beating Sif in a sword fight from centuries ago. He has a hammer in that fight IRCC, so technically it would be moot lol.
What fighting skill has Thor ever shown? 1000 years of experience is useless when he's never shown any skill to begin with
The thing with Thor and skills is that he's........ a fictional character.
If writers emphasized his skill with accuracy instead of with the interest of balance they would literally rip the point of stories in two. I mean back when Thor didn't interact with many characters he had the type of accuracy to loop the tip of Washington Monument and settle it back in its place. Applies to all characters ever. The thing with skill is knowing when and how to apply it. Now Hercules has been depowered his skill feats have been slowly building up. Actual skill >> applied skill. This is why absence of evidence not being evidence of absence is laughed at in discussions where accuracy is preferred instead of easiness. So Thor's lack of is actually a mutually inclusive argument that works both ways.
@Supreme Cosmic said:
deathstoke's bones would shatter in so many places after hitting thor
@Supreme Cosmic said:
People here are implying that deathstroke's punch is more powerful than a speesing bullet
- Read the rules. Thor doesn't get his powers.
- Deathstroke could punch Thor in a nerve strike that is more deadly than a speeding bullet.
That's what the OP says.@Fetts: Are all of Thor's stats on par with Slade or at least strength and durability?
I remember an older thread where the OP clearly stated Thor was de-powered and could use his hammer only as a weapon, yet one guy was saying he always gets his powers from his hammer no matter what, so he would automatically win.
Madness.
@god_spawn: Because Thor fans refuse to accept the idea of a de-powered Thor. I remember an older thread where the OP clearly stated Thor was de-powered and could use his hammer only as a weapon, yet one guy was saying he always gets his powers from his hammer no matter what, so he would automatically win. Madness.
THB, i don't think thats Thor fans. That's a particular type of ALL fans. I remember that thread your talking about, and the OP was trying to create a balanced thread but some posters were more concerned about who would win and then reverse engineering the why and how lol
@SC: haha okay, maybe I shouldn't have singled out just Thor fans. By the way, Last Dragon avatar = AMAZING.
Cheers boss. Oh and I certainly empathize with you. Threads like these get tricky in my opinion, since some fans will view depowered as pretty different. That's how we ended up with that last poster who thought Thor with "no powers" was Thor with 100 class strength or whatever lol
Maybe its easier to pretend Slade's physical attributes are increased to match Thor's? Changing a characters powers would just generally screw with a characters head. Its like if a normal dude woke up tomorrow and had a baby's strength.
Anyway to thread I give this to Deathstroke. He relies on his skills and hand to hand abilities more, they are more refined and honed. He'll be in his element. Even if Thor was as skilled as him regardless of feats, you just took a 2000 year old plus character and weakened him in a way that is like taking a fully grown adult and depowering him to infant level strength and durability (relativity) Deathstroke should win until like Thor has time to climatize to his new levels. (then it might be closer) DS majority.
@PikminMania said:
@Supreme Cosmic said:
deathstoke's bones would shatter in so many places after hitting thor
@Supreme Cosmic said:
People here are implying that deathstroke's punch is more powerful than a speesing bullet
- Read the rules. Thor doesn't get his powers.
- Deathstroke could punch Thor in a nerve strike that is more deadly than a speeding bullet.
I can see that it would have helped lol My bad fellows
Not necessary if there in the same strength class deathstorke wont need nerve clusters. Deathstroke stomps him in this scenario.@Supreme Cosmic said:
deathstoke's bones would shatter in so many places after hitting thor
@Supreme Cosmic said:
People here are implying that deathstroke's punch is more powerful than a speesing bullet
- Read the rules. Thor doesn't get his powers.
- Deathstroke could punch Thor in a nerve strike that is more deadly than a speeding bullet.
@Fetts: With his powers thor loses quite badly ... I for whatever dumb reason assumed even grounds no precog .. Deathstroke does take this easily ... I was unclear on OP ...
@texasdeathmatch said:
Oh, and I forgot to post this:
Mantis wrecks thor ... moot point ... just because people don't know her doesn't mean she is IMO out of his league.
If you are going to depower an opponent in a battle I think one needs to be very precise on the battle rules as I tend to think battle is even. Which I was wrong here and in thor vs tony starks ... both beat thor as they are given a huge advantage ... but I assumed incorrectly on how the OP wanted the battle to go. I admit I was wrong on both accounts ... but I also thought they were on even fighting grounds ... both not true.
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