Deathstroke & Cassandra Cain Vs Spider-Man

Rules:

• New 52 & P52 feats apply for team DC; 616 Spider-Man
• Standard gear, Cassie gets a extra katana/sword (No ikon suit)
• Duo has perfect Teamwork
• DC Team wants to assassinate Spider-Man & all of his friends; Peter knows that & is serious, morals off/bloodlusted
• Win by any means necessary
• Random encounter
• Basic Knowledge

DC Duo

Spider-Man

@jashro44

Could you pls move the thread to "Battles" ?

Morals off? He rips their heads off.

Peter wins.

Morals off? Peter curbs.

Morals off no armor for Slade?

This is unfair lol

He gets his Nth Metal armor & all of his standard offensive weapons, but not the ikon suit

@originalcaptain: Team would win a majority then IMO, the armor changes a lot

Morals off? What do you think would happen to the faces of 2 slightly enhanced humans when a guy who can lift 50 tons plus punches them full strength... no contest.

Cassandra is fodder, Slade gets murked

I think this can go either way.

Slade with his stats, skill, armour and weapons is enough to at least give Spider-Man a good fight. Adding Cassandra as a distraction should be enough for them to edge out a win, but then again Spider-Man is morals off here....

Peter curbstomps without morals.

Parker tears them apart with no morals, Peter is scary as hell when he isn't holding back, and since it's a random encounter I'm giving battlefield control to Spidey as well.

morals off Peter one shots and speed blitzes Cassandra, then he puts in a little effort and 2 shots Slade

Peter kills them both.

Leaning towards Team.

People were saying Cassandra is on par with Spidey due to dodging bullets point blank and being superior fighter. I think with no morals though and knowing his loved ones depend on him, Spidey can take it

Spiderman wins.

What kind of drugs were those people on?

Spider-Man not holding back goes from street level to a solid mid tier. He would kill them, and it wouldn’t be that hard.

If it’s an in-character fight, I’d give it to the team in a tough fight.

Cassandra is literally useless. She’s never used her body reading on someone that fast (please don’t bring up that Bizarro Supergirl crap), and she’s shit at using her gear, making her standard loadout useless. Slade usually makes great use of standard gear, but guns are pretty much pointless against someone like Spider-Man. Explosives are better, but Peter can easily work around them. The only thing keeping Slade from getting put down in a handful of hits are his suit and his own admirable durability.

@apocofist: lol Cassie has feats to argue for her like effortless bullet dodging. I think her best speed feat is dodging a sniper bullet after it was fired. She also has 'Taskmaster like' body reading abilities that let her effortlessly dodge Batman in h2h. She also has fought the best fighters of DC and ranks up there with them. I believe she's top 3 or 5 in her world in martial arts. Now Slade beat her and everything but he had to play mind games to win and manipulate her to not be her best. So I can see the team taking a few here given their feats but not a majority against a blood lusted Spiderman which is what he'd be if he felt his loved ones were on the line

New 52 Deathstroke has the Nth metal suit as his standard gear.

Unless it's specifically Promethium, deathstroke is way too powerful.

@eeef: how is he getting past Nth metal Deathstroke? He took hits from Wonder Woman and beat Hawkman, making him solid mid tier.

@eeef: from what i know,no. Hawkman said he was too fast and Deathstroke physically pinned him down.

He also drew blood from Lobo

In terms of durability, he tanked a literal submarine getting smashed into him, tanked hits from Lobo, Wonder Woman, and Bizzaro Clones.

Unless Spidey has Mid-high tier strength, he's not hurting him.

Peter in a good one, mostly as said due to morals

@payneintheass: how does he hurt Deathstroke? His Nth metal suit can take hits from Wonder Woman, Lobo, and get smashed by a submarine.

I don't see him hurting that level of durability

@sladerulez: Is that standard gear? If yes, I´d have to formulate a new answer

Deathstroke's Nth suit is tough, but I don't know if he'd be able to put Pete down with no morals unless he figures something out.

@payneintheass: in post crisis, Promethium is standard gear

In new 52, Nth metal is standard gear

In Rebirth, the Ikon suit is standard gear.

@sladerulez: Okay I´ll look for some feats of that suit.

@payneintheass: https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/78yg8g/respect_deathstroke_the_terminator_new_52rebirth/

@sladerulez: I´m going to pull a twist for now, since I saw "win by any means"

Do you think Slade could handle being incapped by Peter webbing?

Spider-Man rips them apart.

@payneintheass: unlikely. He seems too tough.

People still haven't said how Peter gets past the Nth metal suit's durability.

@jay_z94: The best feat for the Nth Metal is tanking hits from Hawkman, how is a morals off Peter supposed to struggle with that?

@lanternbatman: how about getting a sub slammed into him

https://m.imgur.com/a/myUKa

Surviving a beating from Lobo

https://m.imgur.com/a/hWkRp

And taking hits from an angered Wonder Woman

https://m.imgur.com/a/c63mK

He can easily shrug off everything Spidey dishes out.

@sladerulez: he wasn’t actually seen tagged by the submarine. It’s just impressive that he tanked the explosion. As for WW, Slade was Amped by the Godkiller Sword. Anyway, you trying to sell these feats as consistent is nonsensical to say the least...he has been damaged, bloodied and hurt by Batman, crashing on a car from a building, Koschei and etc.

@lanternbatman: not reallly, since his high showings equate to his low showings and he consistently fights Mid-high tier foes. Besides, i don't think Bats has broken through the Nth metal suit before.

Please provide any feats of him doing so if I'm wrong.

@sladerulez: I’ve just debunked two of your feats, the only other time he tanked hits from high tiers was Vs. Lobo and one instance is inconsistent in comparison to his other showings....and no, Bruce hasn’t broken nth metal. However he still damaged Slade through it

@lanternbatman: once again, i ask for the feats of him hurting Deathstroke through the Nth Metal suit. And i want to be sure you aren't referring to the Promethium suit.

Your argument for the sub is kind of flimsy, cause i can very easily say "there's nothing to imply the sub didn't hit him" which will lead to a nonending banter going back and forth.

And Considering he took on Bizzaro clones, Hawkman, and Lobo in seperate fights, and took serious hits from them, i can very easily claim that his suit puts him at mid tier, but Street tiers can take him in specific circumstances.

The same could also be said about Spidey, since he also struggles against Street tiers from time to time, and sometimes even loses against them. Like Scorpion, Doc Oc, and even Deadpool. So Losing or getting injured by a street tier isn't that low of a showing.

@sladerulez: That fight with Lobo was with an inferior clone of the Main Man IIRC.

@apocofist: oh ok. Thanks for letting me know.

However, even a clone should be ranked to Mid tier, which is where I'm ranking Deathstroke at due beating hawkman and tanking a sub get smashed onto him.

@sladerulez: Fair point.

However Deathstroke's Nth suits best feats would probably tanking huge ass explosions such as the one directly after his fight Hawkman which decimated the building they were fighting on which Slade gave no sh#$ts about.

The Wonder Woman feat may be an outlier.