Death Battle #10 : Ganondorf VS Dracula (Castlevania)

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Introduction

Wiz: Dark Lords, those who are known to be arrogant and very sinister to the very core, yet they have a tragic history for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years.

Boomstick: As these Dark Lords that had it tragic as the constant decedents of the very heroes sort to slay them every time, they've been doing it since the respectful first games in 1986.

Wiz: As the Links and the Belmonts constantly slay these two Arrogant yet Sinister Dark Lords with Tragic History every time preventing them from succeeding by bringing the world into chaos and ruin.

Boomstick: Ganondorf, The Dark Lord of Hyrule.

Wiz: And Dracula Vlad Ţepeş, or simply just Dracula, The Dark Lord of Transylvania.

Boomstick: He's Wiz and I'm Boomstick.

Wiz: And it is our job to analysis their equipment, abilities and skills to find out who would win... a Death Battle!

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Ganondorf Information Section

Wiz: In an era before the Kingdom of Hyurle came to being, there was the land of Skyloft, a powerful demon king named Demise who's a threat to even the deities themselves had intent to take down all of humanity and could of succeeded if it weren't for the efforts of the Goddess Hylia and her chosen Paladin, the first Link from The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword.

Boomstick: Despite the fact that Link managed to vanquish the demon king Demise with the legendary holy weapon called the Master Sword, Demise bestowed an Ancient Curse upon them, stating that the manifestation of his hatred and the curse of the Demon Tribe will be reborn in a cycle without end as it evolves.

Wiz: And sure enough, that Ancient Curse would be an incarnation of his hatred would be reborn as a being to pursue domination of the world, his name is Ganon.

Boomstick: Which is like a giant demon pig in that form, but before he became the demon king known as Ganon, he was simply known as Ganondorf Dragmire.

Wiz: Ganondorf Dragmire, or just Ganondorf was raised in the Gerudo Desert and was taught in the ways of the dark arts. He was also a leader of thieves and the unchallenged king of the Gerudo tribe.

Boomstick: Which is pretty badass being the unchallenged King of his own tribe, Ganondorf must of been spoiled rotten in his childhood despite living in the desert, man I hate sand so nuff said about sand...

Wiz: Despite living in a desert, Ganondorf's life would eventually take him beyond the desert up to the Sacred Realm, making him the first human in ages to enter that place with the help of his followers. Once there, he touched the Triforce and became evil, his body changed and the Sacred Realm became known as The Dark World.

Boomstick: It was then Ganondorf abandoned his humanity the moment he made his wish in order to conquer the world, stripping everything of what made him human in the first place, kind of like of what happened to Akuma from Street Fighter and Bi-Han from Mortal Kombat.

Wiz: Which would be utterly scary to think about of what would happen if we abandoned our humanity. But moving on from that, Ganondorf isn't without his knowledge of the dark arts, such as being able to conjure phantoms to his aid, can freeze his foes with the waves of darkness, can bestow a divine curse as well as an ancient curse, can also teleport, fly, and create orbs of electric energy which can stop foes in their tracks, provided if they aren't immune to such.

Boomstick: And Ganondorf is known for his mastery of the sword as he's capable of duel-wielding two blades with extreme efficiency. Further more, despite being a demon king, Ganondorf also wields a holy weapon out of complete ivory that he was stabbed with in a failed execution in one timeline, the Sword of the Sages.

Wiz: When he's in the form of Ganon, he also wields the Dark Trident and can make himself invisible, save for the fact he's still valuable to being hit. He'll also fire off flaming bats. In his Beast form, Ganondorf is a massive, strong and mindless beast that can charge onto victims.

Boomstick: But his most powerful part of his arsenal that Ganondorf is the Trifroce of Power, which grants him near invulnerability, incredible strength, and unlimited mystical power. He is basically one hell of a power house that makes him a deity in his own right. He can even use it to form into Ganon at will.

Wiz: Despite being a power house, Ganondorf isn't unkillable, aside the fact that is often seen being killed by Link with the Master Sword as well as Silver Arrows, Ganondorf did at two points got killed by his own dark magic when posing under the guise of Agahnim who can throw magic balls, fire balls, lightning bolts and create clones of himself.

Boomstick: His own magical balls can be deflected against him which dose point out he's not immune to his own dark-based attacks. This is known as Dead Man's Volley.

Wiz: Ganondorf isn't without his army as they will be covered in this fight, the Moblins who make up for the bulk of his army that will throw and charge with spears, the Bokoblins who wield large blades, similar to a butcher knife, Darknuts who are known for there durability while armored, but once without their armor, they become more quicker but also more easier to kill, Stalfoes are armed with a with a sword and shield but don't defend their lower part of the body as only a few of these will fight in pairs and must be defeated as a pair.

Boomstick: The Lizalfos who are one of the most organized forces in Ganon's arsenal, they will hide on the scaffolding behind this wall, and hurl down rocks upon anyone coming by as they are also remarkably nimble and swift, the Wizrobe who can cast a spell at foes and disappear, valuable to physical attacks, explosions and arrows. And finally the Iron Knuckles, who can send foes flying backwards with there axes. The more their armor flies off means they become more agile.

Wiz: And if his infantry wasn't enough, Ganondorf can also bring his powerful minions into the fight, such as Twinrova, the surrogate mothers of Ganondorf himself, who can fire a beam of ice and fire respectfully. Koume and Kotake are weak against fire and ice respectfully. The Phantom Ganon who often utilizes the Dead Man's Volley technique in battle and is weak against dark-based attacks. Zant, who can do a lot of things such as creating portals, create Shadow Beasts, phantoms of himself, teleport, and perform telekinesis.

Boomstick: He also has General Onox on his side, despite not being seen with Ganondorf directly, he's part of his minions who will use a ball and chain to whack his opponents, wears armor that can only be breached by used of heavy hitting weaponry such as a spin attack. He will even cause boulders to fall down by jumping if any are near by.

Wiz: He also has Veran on his side, who can possess another person and will even transform into a fairy-like creature. Will summon four Dark Doppelgängers of an individual, which will mirror that individual's movements. She will flies around the room and fires energy balls at her targets, including a radial wave of them. Veran will also take three forms such as a turtle form which can jump up and crash down on her target, spider form which can unleash a web that deals considerable damage to all entangled, and bee form which will occasionally summons a swarm of smaller bees that fly at her foes, and can shoot a volley of stingers at at her foes, which slow his walking speed.

Boomstick: And Ganondorf's most powerful minion imaginable, the dragon called Volvagia is capable of flying despite lacking wings. Can breath fire and can be submerged in magma. He is vulnerable to arrows among with other missile-type projectile weaponry, especially while flying. He even managed to wipe a good portion of the Goron race until he was brought down by one of it's heroes.

Wiz: Regardless how cocky and arrogant he is, Ganondorf will always come back in his bid to eventually conquer the world for his own.

Ganondorf: I am Ganondorf, the Demon King. Do not take me lightly!

Dracula (Castlevania) Information Section

Wiz: Transylvania, a region in Europe that has played host to many myths involving folkloric monsters, specifically vampires. Where it started old folk lore stories such as Bram Stocker's Dracula.

Boomstick: And speaking about Dracula is the one we'll be covering directly from the Castlevania series, Dracula Vlad Ţepeş or just Dracula for short.

Wiz: Like Ganondorf himself, Dracula from Castlevania is also an arrogant yet sinister dark lord with tragic history, literately written all over his face. But before he became the King of Evil among the stuff of legends, he was once a genius tactician named Mathias Cronqvist, who was one of the knights of the Church of England among with Leon Belmont. Both where bound by an old friendship and defeated heretics and heathens in the name of God.

Boomstick: And his company remained undefeated throughout every campaign they killed the heretics and heathens. Then all of a sudden, news about the sudden death of his beloved wife, Elisabetha struck him like pencil writing a moment of tragic history right on his face, poor man became bedridden with profound grief.

Wiz: Well don't feel sorry for him too much because he eventually manipulated his best friend Leon Belmont among with his betrothed and a very powerful vampire into achieving his goal for immortality, by becoming a vampire himself thus abandoning his humanity in the process.

Boomstick: Thus becoming the Demon King, the King of the Night, Princes of Darkness, he became known as Dracula.

Wiz: Dracula ended up waging war against the very deity he once fought in the name of, stating that he took his own wife and curse him forever more.

Boomstick: Even more tragic history being written all over his face just like Ganondorf. Somebody get me a pen so I can write tragic history all over there faces!

Wiz: I don't think they would let you, they would break your arm off before you got the chance.

Boomstick: Oh come on! I write it on their photos of their faces not directly on their faces.

Wiz: Either way, they would get insulted. But moving on from that, Dracula has a varied arsenal which ranges from swords, spears, even firearms, all he can enhance with divine property if given the chance. He's also a master of wielding such arms despite the fact he normally uses the dark arts to take on the Belmonts.

Boomstick: Dracula is also known for his dark arts, he has the Chaos Realm where he can summon an instant army whenever he needs to, he also has near-Invulnerability where typical weapons normally deal either inflict minimal damage if not no damage to him at all. Save for the fact that certain weapons and measures, such as Shanoa's "Dominus" attack, the Vampire Killer, the Alucard Sword and Spear among with some powerful holy weapons are capable of harming him.

Wiz: It should also be pointed out that Dracula is also invulnerable to attacks to any part of his body excluding his head which includes even his demon form as seen in Castlevania: Drcaula X Chronicles with the exception of his ghost form. Dracula's resurrection also depends on the number of people in the world who desire his return and.between 1797 to 1999, he was resurrected more frequently. He's also immune to curses due to the fact that his own heart as a relic grants that immunity to curses.

Boomstick: Why would anyone want the King of Evil to be resurrected... They be paying a hefty price to pay...

Wiz: Because Dracula claims in his own words on why.

Dracula: I was called here by humans, who wish to pay me tribute.

Boomstick: Tribute... TRIBUTE??? So they pretty much own his alliance to him. Some humans don't even want to be human or something?

Wiz: Moving on from that, Dracula also has the most treasured item in his possession, the Crimson Stone, which grants him the power to absorb the souls of even the most powerful Vampires to make himself even more powerful then before, The Ebony Stone which grants the Eternal Night. In addition to the fact he can use various swords, spears and firearms, Dracula can even use Death's Scythe, a divine weapon in it's own right since Death is a deity.

Boomstick: So your saying if I lived near Dracula's castle, it's always night time regardless.

Wiz: Yes indeed Boomstick, yes indeed.

Boomstick: And Dracula isn't without a number of magical spells within the dark arts, he's known to teleport often from one place to another and throwing fireballs from hell, he can also create dark inferno balls which can't be blocked, can also summon flaming ghosts and create energy pillars.

Wiz: He can even create a flamenado as well, cause dark crystals to home onto his opponent, conjure bolts of lighting at his opponents, summon a swarm of bats, can steal souls from his enemies and can draw blood from his opponents assuming if they can bleed and can create a hydro blood storm which can one shot anyone not immune to instant-death attacks.

Boomstick: But he's also got the most powerful spell feared by even the most powerful demons of the highest order... Demonic Megiddo.

Shows Dracula casting Demonic Megiddo which utterly obliterates Shanoa.

Wiz: The Demonic Megiddo is without a single doubt the most powerful spell in Dracula's arsenal, sure it requires a exceptionally long casting time.

Boomstick: But once unleashed... it not only deals an insane amount of constant damage over time to his opponents within radius but it also makes him completely invulnerable... DAMN!

Wiz: Among with his abilities we've covered, Dracula will also be bringing his army into this fight, he can summon bats who make up the majority of his army, zombies will also walk up and bite his victims, skeletons who can throw bones, climb ropes among pillars, the blood skeletons can even reform themselves in only 2 seconds. Gold skeletons who are...

Boomstick: Gold Skeletons, this guy pimped his skeletons with gold coating??? Damn he's so richer then Bill Gates!

Wiz: Gold skeletons, who are much more durable then the rest in addition to the fact all skeletons can wield various weapons. The Flea Men who will attack in groups and climb ceilings as they will hops in an erratic manner and will ride other enemies as steeds. Gargoyles who conceal itself as a statue. Further more, the gargoyle can rip foes with it's claws as well as throwing spears at his targets. The gargoyles will attack it's foes while in flight. The Giant Eyeballs who can drip acid tears, home towards its target, shoots fireballs and lasers and will roll towards its target.

Boomstick: Ewwwww!

Wiz: The Mud Men, who can form from mud at will and will spawn an almost seemingly endless number, they will even split oneself into smaller versions. The Ghosts who can float towards its enemies and deal damage to them. The Axe Knights, who use axe as both a melee and throwing weapon. Red Axe Knight can even reassemble themselves. The Spear Knights, who use a spear, poleaxe, or halberd to impale others. Further more, they can even extended such weapons to impale others either upwards or downwards. They will enter a guard stance if anyone gets near and will perform a lunging slash attack the moment they pull it's spear back.

Boomstick: How more of an army dose this guy even have? A huge one?

Wiz: Ectoplasm, who will rush at enemies and inflict them with Curse, which prevents them from attacking, prevents those inflicted from being able to cast certain damaging spells, reduces movement speed and even outright drains the victim's mana. Mermen, who can spit either fireballs or water streams and they will attack at unexpected moments when trespassers travel close to the waters. They will even climb walls and ceilings as well to plan an ambush. Bone Pillars, who are immobile units that shoots fireballs to foes at a distance and a limited ranged flamethrower. And the skeleton dragons, who can slither around the floors, walls, and ceilings, shoots fireballs and flame breath.

Boomstick: Yep, he's got a huge army behind his back alright.

Wiz: And if that's not enough, he's also got his minions as well. The Giant Bat, who can divide into smaller bats and reform back into it's original size, will spit fireballs and perform a swoop attack. Can even use it's wings to perform a gust of wind that will knock back foes, will bite its target three times and can curl into a drill-like form to deal serious damage to it's target.

Boomstick: He's also got Sir Grakul, who also can attack with his sword should his axe get destroyed, will use his axe to generate flames that will travel across the floor and will even throw his axe like a boomerang. Then he has the Great Armor, who carries a giant shield that will block a lot of attacks. Further more, it will also form a shield of it's own. Generates a shock wave that travels across the floor. High attacking power and resilience to damage and will use a rapid thrusting attack.

Wiz: He's also got the Behemoth, who can shoot out a laser breath weapon, has great strength and endurance, will utterly knock back even a Belmont several feet away, can spit out its guts and will even stick out its tongue made of entrails.

Boomstick: Ewwwwww...

Wiz: The Medusa, who can turn victims into stone by simply staring at them. Medusa is a master of classic Greek weaponry and will spawn snakes off her head which will attack her targets. Medusa can even use her tail as a sweep kick-like attack. The Orphic Vipers who can wave all around and attack in their own ways: one breathes a short-ranged flame, and the other spits three-directional fireballs. They are known for high maneuverability and can lay low underwater. The Man Eaters, who fire off ripple lasers with it's tentacles and are known to be difficult to dodge. The Man Eater is capable of smashing itself into it's target, can emit a rotten breath and tentacles have to be destroyed in order for the Man Eater in order to be destroyed.

Boomstick: He also has Koranot, who cause debris and other things to fall if a ceiling is present, Koranot is known for diverse physical capacities, has great strength among with stamina and can haul or vomit boulders. He's even immunity to time altering effects and can't be poisoned. Then there's The Creature has immense strength and physical prowess in addition to the fact he can control electricity. In some cases, he can use different kinds of weapons. The Creature has immunity to electrical attacks as well.

Wiz: The Mummy can throw fireballs in addition to being able to attack with it's bandages as they can act as homing missiles and can even teleport. The Mummy is immune to time altering effects, absorbs dark attacks, can emit a poisonous odor whenever he's hit and can control blocks where he can use them to either crush his opponents or impale them. Carmilla has the ability to possess living beings at will. She also rides a giant skull with magical powers and can levitate. She also sheds fiery tears of blood.

Boomstick: Then there's Slogra, a master of the spear and will attack with it, he'll even shoot fireballs from it in addition to the fact he'll grab his opponent and impale his victim. Should his spear break for any reason, Slogra will resort to his beak to attack. Gaibon, who can shoot fireballs and remain air born. He will even grab Slogra with his feet and drop him on a target. Should Gaibon lose half of his health for any reason, he'll turn red and shoot larger fireballs.

Wiz: But in sprite of all this, Dracula has two of the most powerful minions up his sleeve, Death and Shaft.

Death: You will go no further! (In Japanese)

Boomstick: That's right, the Deity of Death himself hence the name is the most loyal servant to Dracula since the 11th century and is even his closest friend.

Wiz: Death also has an arsenal of abilities of his own, he can create sickles out of thin air, can slash people with his scythe, can also strip equipment from someone if need to be.

Boomstick: He can even summon a deadly tempest, create black holes, create pillars of light and can even take other forms as well.

Wiz: Shaft, the Priest of Chaos who can create orbs that can create lightning bolts and shoot fire, he can summon minions at his commend, can even turn into a ghost after being killed which will allow him to resume the fight even after he dies.

Boomstick: And if things really get intense, Dracula can form into various things, such as the bat, the mist, the wolf, a ghost and even... True Dracula.

Wiz: Bat form which allows him to shoot fireballs and rush at his opponents, Mist form slows down his mobility but also makes him completely invulnerable in addition to the fact he can poison his enemies when he gets near them in this form, the wolf form allows him to move faster then a speeding bullet, ghost form allows him to move at high speeds, create pillars and move around in illusions, the only form where Dracula can take damage anywhere regardless where you hit him. And the True Dracula form, where he can shoot lasers, summon meteors, and can smash the floor causing earth quakes.

Boomstick: Which pretty much points out that Dracula is without a doubt a King of Evil just not to be messed with.

Dracula: Now is the time to put aside your weak human side and join me in remaking this world!

Rules

Both are in character but want to win , winner by DEATH , standard wear and gear for both , Speed can be equal if needed , both are composite

Location - Ganondorf's Castle

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#5  Edited By Boogeymonster

Dracula, without the shadow of any doubt.

As for my reasoning:

1) As we see in Dawn of Sorrow, the Chronomage is able to stop time indefinitely. As we know from Curse of Darkness the monsters in the castle get their abilities from Devil Forgemasters, and Dracula. The former who also get their abilities from Dracula. Dracula himself is also immune to time-stop.

2) Dracula is notoriously hard to put down, and can survive as a disembodied spirit. He can only be hurt by his own demonic power or powerful holy relics such as the vampire killer. As well as people who can match his demonic power such as Nathan Graves, and Cornell.

3) He is the avatar of Chaos as the Dark Lord. Who is the counterbalancing opposite of God who created the universe.

4) Dracula creates, and maintains his castle which consists of several universes. Which disappear without his demonic power to support them. As seen in Aria of Sorrow, and Dawn of Sorrow. Also, Portrait of Ruin when Brauner separated the castle using quantum space barriers, and trapped them into paintings in order to siphon its demonic power. He ends up creating nine different universes.

5) Soma Cruz and Alucard, characters who both scale to Dracula, are able to escape from the Abyss before it collapses on itself in about a second. It consists of six dimensions, and one of which is clearly a universe. They do so on foot. As Alucard had his demonic power stolen by Menace earlier. The Abyss itself is also created, and maintained by Dracula as the Dark Lord.

6) The Sky Fish, a random non-boss monster with no natural resistance to time-stop like other monsters, can break out of the time-stop through sheer speed.

7) Olrox, another vampire, and considerably weaker than both Alucard and Dracula can manipulate millions of souls at once in order to create a bootleg version of the castle. As noted in Reminiscence of the Divine Abyss.

8) Chaos, and by extension Dracula are able to create and manipulate the infinite number of tortured spirits in the Abyss. Then create an infinite number of monsters out of them from it for the castle. As noted in Reminiscence of the Divine Abyss.

9) Death, a weaker avatar of Chaos, is able to regenerate from being erased from existence after getting destroyed by the power of dominance. As in both his body, and soul completely destroyed. He is also able to kill concepts such as "distance" and "sound" making his attacks instantaneous. Which Olrox is able to dodge after the fact. As seen in Reminiscence of the Divine Abyss.

10) The Time Reaper, someone everyone can defeat in Castlevania: Judgement, was going to destroy the entire time-line including all of these universes. He is beneath Galamoth, who created him, and both Alucard and Dracula have defeated Galamoth throughout the series.

11) Aeon, a Time Guardian, is able to create an alternate universe. Who is also beneath Dracula.

12) Also, it's confirmed by Koji Igarashi that Castlevania: Judgement is canon. As well as every other title. As Castlevania is a multiverse consisting of multiple time-lines. He also confirms that the Time Reaper was going to destroy the time-line directly rather than through a temporal paradox.

I can provide references for all of the above.

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#7  Edited By Boogeymonster

Okay then. Apologies beforehand this is going to be a lot of information to take in, and is going to be kind of an info dump.

@boogeymonster said:

As for the time-stop. As we see with the Chronomage, whose soul Soma Cruz has, it lasts indefinitely. Soma Cruz needed to get Zephyr's soul in order to shut it off.

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What I brought up didn't involve game mechanics. They involved scripted events, instances that happen regardless of what you do, and things you have no choice but to witness or be party to.

They're not vague, and they are fairly explicit. They are also supported by the narrative I provided. If you want even more evidence that the castle was made by Dracula, and by extension Chaos, Alucard notes that it is creature of chaos in Symphony of the Night too.

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Soma Cruz is able to hurt intangibles, and even abstracts such as Chaos and Death so I am not sure why he wouldn't be able to hurt Zarathos. Many of the enemies he can fight and destroy in Castlevania are outright ghosts, and as I already noted protection through divinity doesn't help either. In Lament of Innocence we see Death outright noted to be the embodiment of death itself, and the deity representative of it. We see some reality warping on his part too.

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Oh, and a few other things I forget to mention.

Dracula, as the Dark Lord, is the counterbalancing opposite of God. Who can't exist without him. As noted by Genya Arikado (aka, Alucard).

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In the same video at 6:30+ they escape the Abyss on foot, and we see them outside the castle at 6:31+. As I already provided the scans of the Abyss has at least one universe, and they get out of there before it can collapse on itself in about one second. They don't use any demonic powers to do this either. As Alucard is in his sealed state, and has his demonic power stolen by Menace earlier.

@boogeymonster said:

This is an act of necromancy, and I apologize for that but I would like to note some things about Soma Cruz and Dracula.

The Time Reaper was sent back to destroy the fabric of time as stated by the narration, and destroy the time-line as noted by Aeon. There would be no more Dracula because he would cease to exist the moment the Time Reaper finished destroying the very fabric of time, and this era of time.

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Also, Koji Igarashi confirms that the Time Reaper was going to destroy the time-line itself and that Castlevania consists of multiple time-lines:

After you see the trailer, I hope you see the game as something where you can run around in 360 degrees as an action game. So as many of you know, the Castlevania timelines goes over 1000 years. And there is a character trying to destroy that timeline. Simply, we wanted to get all the characters from past Castlevania titles into one game.

Also, more confirmation from Koji Igarashi that Castlevania: Judgement is canon. Aeon and Saint Germain from Curse of Darkness are a part of the same organization.

http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Aeon#Aeon_.3D_St._Germain.3F

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/37s0ev/i_am_former_castlevania_producer_koji_igarashi/?st=j0s8cjxo&sh=6b34c707

Just keep in mind for these videos I set them up so they automatically skip to what I am talking about. The exception being the Chaotic Realm which has multiple rooms that I wanted to note.

The instance where Aeon notes Dracula would be destroyed as a side-effect of the Time Reaper destroying the era itself. So, we know the Time Reaper wasn't going to do this by simply destroying Dracula directly.

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So, using Aeon's time rift as the average and just for further evidence that he did create it we see him do so in Castlevania: Judgement's opening cinematic.

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Also, again here is Aeon's statement about his time rift. Where he calls it an alternate universe. We already know that the characters that he draws into it are already in it, and not the dimensional rift. Which he needs help from the other characters to gain access to by gaining the soul keys. The dimensional rift was created by the Time Reaper.

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Grant Danasty can create one as seen here.

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Also, here is a screen capture of Eric Lecarde doing it.

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In Castlevania: Bloodlines both Death and Dracula can create a large amount of dimensions, Dracula's being filled with celestial bodies (the entire screen is chock full of stars):

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Galamoth crashes into the moon, disperses it, and grows to the size of the moon. Which you should be able to scale Dracula as he routinely defeats the usurper, and his son Kid Dracula shoots a fireball at FTL speeds and harms Galamoth with it:

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For reference, the Abyss is yet another component of the castle and it's also an explicit universe. As seen in Dawn of Sorrow. Dracula is noted to have a direct to connection the Abyss.

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https://www.gamefaqs.com/ds/922145-castlevania-dawn-of-sorrow/faqs/38902

SOMA: You!

CELIA: You came after all.

SOMA: Celia Fortuna...

??? (DARIO): Hey, the demon king is a brat like this?

??? (DIMITRI): There you go, judging by appearances. That's the trouble with simple people.

??? (DARIO): What did you say, Dimitri!

DIMITRI: Heh, I just told the truth.

CELIA: Dario, Dimitri. Both of you, stop it.

DARIO: Tch!

DIMITRI: ....

CELIA: Excuse me. Welcome to the headquarters of my religious community.

SOMA: You say that as if I wanted to come.

CELIA: You're afraid of having people involved because of you. Am I right?

SOMA: Yeah.... I've taken the bait. Why do you want a demon king?

CELIA: It's not that I want a demon king. In order for god to be completely good, a being of complete evil is lacking.

SOMA: That has nothing to do with me. If the world wants complete evil, the demon king will someday appear. Isn't that right?

CELIA: That may be true. Or it may not be true. But in fact, the power of the demon world is getting weaker. A demon king must definitely be made. And soon.

So, basically the direct translation of Dark Lord is Demon King and the Abyss is the Demon World.

Dracula, no longer being the Dark Lord or Demon King, has caused it to weaken.

As we already know there is the Chaotic Realm as well. Which is another component of the castle, and has numerous stars and galaxies. As seen in Aria of Sorrow. There are several of those rooms in the Chaotic Realm.

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Specifically, there are four of them and two dimensions with moons.

As you can see at these time-frames.

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Then the Chaotic Realm being destroyed after Soma Cruz defeats Chaos leaving only a white void before disappearing. Soma Cruz survives the destruction without so much as a scratch.

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Then the nine dimensions separated from the castle by Brauner in Portrait of Ruin each with celestial bodies.

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Charlotte: This painting... Its power is incredible!

Jonathan: Must be one of those paintings...

Charlotte: Without a doubt. Hm... I've got it!

Jonathan: Care to share?

Charlotte: This paintings function. Brauner is using it to

control the power of this castle!

Jonathan: Well then, let's hurry up and rip it to shreds!

Charlotte: Impossible. Anything we do will be pointless. From what I can tell, based on the theory of curse amplification, this picture is a multilayer quantum-space barrier. A kind of paranormal phenomenon.

Jonathan: Uh, okay... And what does that mean in human language?

Charlotte: ... In short, think of it as a series of walls that surround the magic controlling Dracula's Castle. The painting itself is just the outermost wall. As soon as you break it, it'll regenerate. It's unbreakable.

Jonathan: How convenient. So now what?

Charlotte: I'll align my magic with the painting's so we can enter it. That'll be the best way to circumvent the castle's magic. the risk is quite high though.

Jonathan: No problem. C'mon, what do we have to lose?

Charlotte: Okay then. Here we go.

(Jonathan and Charlotte enter the painting)

Jonathan: So we're in the painting now?

Charlotte: The will of the artist is embodied here.

Also, more confirmation when talking with Wind earlier.

Wind: Now you should be able to advance deeper into the castle. If you complete the tasks I give to you, I shall teach you even more, including magic skills. I may be able to entrust you with other items in the future as well.

Jonathan: Sounds good to me.

Wind: Oh, one more thing... Regarding this castle's lord.

Charlotte: You mean Dracula right? I've read books about him.

Wind: Dracula isn't this castle's lord.

Jonathan: What do you mean? That's why they call this "Dracula's Castle".

Wind: It is indeed Dracula's Castle. However, the castle's lord is a vampire by the name of Brauner.

Charlotte: I've heard nothing about that!

Wind: As one would expect. His identity has been kept secret for years, after all. He infuses magic into paintings to increase his power. You will undoubtedly come across these paintings in this castle. Search for these paintings.

Charlotte: He's using the paintings to make the castle's power his, isn't he? Still, he isn't Dracula, after all, so we're safe for now.

Wind: Be careful. His power grows stronger by the minute.

Jonathan: No problem. We won't let you be tied down here for long. That's a promise.

Charlotte: trust us. Jonathan might seem unreliable, but he'd

never break a promise.

Wind: Heh, that's reassuring. Very well. Best of luck to you.

Jonathan: All right then. Let's go find those paintings!

A screen-capture of one such dimension.

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The castle was divided in half in Harmony of Dissonance, and the only thing stopping Dracula from fusing them back together was Maxim's spirit. Which he needed to expel before he could finish fusing the castles, and resurrect himself. Which is impressive as the castle consists of multiple universes:

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Another thing of note is that the castle has an infinite amount of zombies and monsters. Which means that it can't possibly be finite.

Taken from Reminiscence of the Divine Abyss. It was written under supervision from Koji Igarashi.

Michelle had promised herself to use Julius’, Yoko’s and other predecessors’ quest records as a source of information to improve her knowledge on those things.

As a start, the castle has an infinite supply of zombies and drawn by the castle’s magic, numerous other monsters appeared, perhaps their existence is allowed by a part of the magic that governs the original Dracula’s castle.

Perhaps, people who sought to resurrect Dracula had called upon those countless monsters.

I have already noted an instance of Soma Cruz and Alucard resisting Chaos's influence. Here is the scene outright, and I noted in the last page Chaos is responsible for creating the infinite demons in the castle from the tortured spirits from the Abyss. I have already provided an instance of the entity who by feats is more powerful than Zarathos failing to control Soma Cruz and Alucard.

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Also, Death is able to kill things like "distance" and "sound." Olrox can dodge these attacks that destroy the concept of distance.

Two bronze colored scythes much larger than usual appeared; it advanced to the space in between the two men with an intention to cut off Olrox’s head.

Kill the distance-----

Kill the sound-----

Just, faster, soon, die.

It can be seen that the blades have certainly caught Olrox’s neck, but----- that is only an after image and the vampire is already at Death’s back.

Soma Cruz, and Dracula are the same person. The former even having the latter's memories. Soma Cruz erased Death from existence with the power of dominance. Death was able to regenerate from being erased from existence.

Dracula died in battle in 1999. That is the truth.

However----- his soul did not sink into chaos. Instead of losing the memory of his past self, he was reincarnated as a human being with the power of dominance over monsters.

That is the existence of Soma Cruz.

If in essence, he is the new Dracula, he should have reigned over the castle but with the help of the vampire hunters’ Genya Arikado, Julius Belmont and Yoko Belnades, as well as the previously mentioned childhood friend, his connection to chaos was severed.

Afterwards, due to his [power of dominance], he got involved in trouble but now he is sticking to living as a human being.

But his soul had scanned the past and even he cannot forgive that.

While deciding to prepare himself, Soma again concentrated on his surroundings.

-----This sign……from where……

This ominous vortex of magic was similar to what he felt in the [demon castle]. Among all the magic Soma knows, this particular type of sophisticated [power] belonged to-----

“……I know I am being rude……”

Faster than he can remember, that husky voice rang in front of Soma-----

From the shadow of the forest, a large shadow emerged.

“……tch!”

When he grasped the identity of the shadow, tension ran throughout Soma’s body.

A giant skull wearing deep blue rotten robes appeared. However, there was no sense of madness and savagery. Even the atmosphere was filled with an indication of intelligence.

“Impossible…… why here…… tch!”

Death

Formerly this diabolical being with immeasurable power stood in Soma’s way twice.

Except for the time when he was able to erase Death from existence by possessing Dracula’s [power of dominance] over the souls of monsters, his condition right now with his disregarded power and not even having a weapon was no match for his enemy.

Something I will add is the fact Julius Belmont was destroying the castle at a distance.

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Then there's Heaven, and the Astral Plane.

Taken from Lament of Innocence.

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Taken from Portrait of Ruin.

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Heaven is likely as large as the Abyss. Since Castlevania is hard on counterbalancing opposites, and Heaven is the opposite of the Abyss. The Astral Plane is of unknown size.

Which makes the fact the Time Reaper was going to destroy the time-line all the more impressive. As said time-line consists of multiple universes--four from the Chaotic Realm, one from the Abyss, one from the mortal plane, and Heaven--mostly from the castle, and that needs to be destroyed in order stop Dracula once and for all. Which Aeon notes was going to happen if the Time Reaper destroyed the fabric of time. Which anyone in Castlevania: Judgement can potentially defeat.

As we already know the castle is the symbol of Dracula's demonic power, and the castle needs to be destroyed in order to destroy Dracula.

Taken from Dawn of Sorrow.

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Taken from Aria of Sorrow.

Graham Jones:"That's right. Dracula was resurrected exactly as he predicted. But, vampire hunters destroyed him completely. They ended his regeneration cycle by sealing his castle... the symbol of his demonic power, inside the darkness of an eclipse."

Dracula is able to create a dimension with a super-massive black hole, that proceeds to eat a bunch of stars. Which he can also destroy as seen during the third phase of the fight.

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To add to this we know there are an infinite numbers of monsters in the castle. As noted in Reminisce of the Divine Abyss. We know they are created by Chaos and Dracula taking the tortured spirits from Abyss, and transforming them into demons that subservient. In other other words they messing around with the souls and minds of a literal infinite number of entities. As further elaborated by the Devil Forgemasters from Curse of Darkness who get their demonic power from Dracula.

"Heed my words, O great powers of darkness! Release to me one of the tortured souls! Let me infuse him with my life-force and awaken him to the world of the living! Immaculate being... Appear before me now."—Hector, during the ritual of devil forging

There is also Olrox, who created a considerably less impressive replica of the castle, and even it involved manipulating the souls of millions. Which he was also able to hide. Who is basically nothing compared to Alucard, and Dracula.

Taken from Reminiscence of the Divine Abyss.

At the next moment-----something unusual happened to the entire castle.

The castle’s interiors which were ought to maintain their current magnificent form, gradually showed their true form.

Starting with the gorgeous paintings and furniture, the marble and stone patterns disappeared.

A hard layer of numerous corpses formed from the bottom created a building that is a symbol of chaos and madness.

The [castle’s] true form was hidden by Olrox’s magic-----

Those summoned monster corpses deprived of magic, together with the human corpses of Graham Jones’ followers, created that structure-----

The castle became one very large Legion.

“This is …… the castle’s true form…… !?”

Noticing herself standing on top of millions of corpses, Michelle unconsciously knitted her brows.

All of the magic that Olrox used returned to him and that incomparable magic entered his body.

A thick vortex of magic surrounded his body. A portion of the corpses detached from the floor and one after the other integrated in front of Olrox.

Those corpses became a monstrous lump, the scent of death mixed with magic enveloped the entire castle lord’s room.

The numerous bodies of monsters which were deprived of magic swelled. Then in front of Michelle there was a giant corpse doll mixed with human souls. And her heart was on the verge of entering madness and despair.

“This is…… the vampire’s magic……?”

As well as the Sky Fish being able to move in a time-stop through sheer speed, and unlike other monsters it doesn't have a natural immunity. As seen when it still slows it down but doesn't stop it completely, and as noted in the bestiary its only unique trait is its speed.

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#8  Edited By Cor_Tsar

stalemate... dracula cant kill ganondorf. you need light magic of the highest level to knock him out... and even higher to kill him. its the same counter wise and ganon has a light sword, but dracula has time manipulation, it would only be speculation if the triforce of power could counter it

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I so do not buy Drac being universe level, certainly not any more than Demise creating a pocket universe. Classic fan wanking.

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Oh my god this overview. Creating a supermassive black whole capable of eating thousands of stars. And yet there is rubble 10 feet away that is completely unaffected by it. Jesus christ at least try to gauge your character by the level they are actually suggested to be at.

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@sirfizzwhizz: You were repping Castlevania's Drac at a time right? Do you have any input on this?

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@amendment50: I think Belmont Dracula can win. So could Ganon. So either way.

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@sirfizzwhizz: Oh I more meant what was your input on Boogeymonster's evaluation of Drac.

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Castlevania Judgement stuff should be taken with a grain of salt. That hinges on some shoddy interpretations.

Everything else I don't have knowledge enough to comment.

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@amendment50 said:

I so do not buy Drac being universe level, certainly not any more than Demise creating a pocket universe. Classic fan wanking.

No, it really isn't and is supported by mountains of evidence that I provided. It is not fan wanking when you have dozens of feats, statements from the man who had the largest contribution into making Castlevania into what it was since Symphony of the Night, and the narrative supporting you.

@amendment50 said:

Oh my god this overview. Creating a supermassive black whole capable of eating thousands of stars. And yet there is rubble 10 feet away that is completely unaffected by it. Jesus christ at least try to gauge your character by the level they are actually suggested to be at.

Creating a supermassive black hole capable of devouring dozens of stars. I didn't say thousands. You didn't read my whole post, and didn't look clearly at all of the evidence I provided. You know what I find funny, how the Flash and Superman never do any of the sort of collateral damage they are supposed to. The conservation of energy does not follow through in fiction, and especially not in regards with reality warpers such as Dracula. Just take how the Flash's infinite mass punch does not cause nearly as much damage to its surroundings as it should. Better yet, how Goku and Beerus didn't destroy the entire solar system they were fighting in despite having the power to do so.

As the evidence I provided notes they are suggested to be at this sort of level by both what we can see, and what the narrative describes.

@amendment50 said:

@sirfizzwhizz: You were repping Castlevania's Drac at a time right? Do you have any input on this?

SirFizzWhizz's only experience with Castlevania involves Lords of Shadow, and his knowledge regarding is negligible at best.

He even mistook Soma Cruz for one of the Belmonts, and that he used the Vampire Killer at one point.

@sirfizzwhizz said:

@amendment50: Its shit.

No Zarathos being multiversal, and being only able to be defeated by God within the entirety of Marvel's roster is shit.

This is objective fact supported by mountains of evidence, the narrative, and creator statements.

@Windchampionluc said:

Castlevania Judgement stuff should be taken with a grain of salt. That hinges on some shoddy interpretations.

Everything else I don't have knowledge enough to comment.

No, it doesn't. I supported every one of my claims with evidence. It is the farthest thing from shoddy, and the scale of which is supported by things that happens in numerous other entries in the series.

Then I have no idea why you are trying to make a dichotomy about whether Castlevania: Judgement is usable or not. If you're not all that familiar with the franchise.

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@boogeymonster: I'm not seeing mountains of indisputable evidence, I'm seeing a hilariously loose interpretation of background graphics and phrasing which is nothing I haven't seen for Sora, Dante, Kratos or any other ridiculously wanked video game character. Hell I had someone throw the same nonsense at me to try and convince me that Ganon himself is universe level not long ago.

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@boogeymonster: I'm not seeing mountains of indisputable evidence, I'm seeing a hilariously loose interpretation of background graphics and phrasing which is nothing I haven't seen for Sora, Dante, or any other ridiculously wanked video game character. Hell I had someone throw the same nonsense at me to try and convince me that Ganon himself is universe level not long ago.

You are looking at mountains of indisputable evidence. Are you seriously going to ignore the environment, and the narrative when you just used that to try and say Dracula wasn't that powerful due to a lack of collateral damage? I see how it is so it can only be used when it supports your argument but not when it supports mine. Nice double standards there. I do not know what this argument for arguing that Ganon is universal is, and I sincerely doubt it is as supported by as much evidence as what I provided for Dracula.

Difference between Dante, and Dracula is that this isn't an outlier that only happens once. Which we only see Mundus do in a single fight, and never again. It happens dozens of times throughout the course of the series, is done by other characters besides Dracula, and extends beyond creation of universes. We Soma Cruz survive the destruction of the Chaotic Realm, and how Chaos was throwing stars and galaxies in the Chaotic Realm around as if they are frisbees. As well as knowing the Time Reaper was going to destroy the time-line directly. Not to mention Brauner carving up the castle into quantum space barriers, each with their own universe.

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How is saying i have no knowledge on the other (shoddy) stuff, saying i have no knowledge on Castlevania Judgement?

Kinda inane logic is that?

For one, castlevania judgement is so detached from the rest of the series that anyone can pick that up and figure out your interpretation is loose as hell. It literally can be runthrough in a single short sitting (it isnt a grand storyline)

Thinking you need some extensive knowledge of the series to put 2 and 2 together for Judgement is as much of a joke as your interpretations.

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@Windchampionluc said:

How is saying i have no knowledge on the other (shoddy) stuff, saying i have no knowledge on Castlevania Judgement?

Kinda inane logic is that?

None of the stuff I provided evidence for was shoddy, and supported by scenes I provided and the narrative behind them. In that very same post I make clear how Castlevania: Judgement is canon, and is confirmed as such by Koji Igarashi.

I assumed your knowledge regarding Castlevania: Judgement was lacking as you dismissed it as unusable. When the creator himself confirms that it's canon, and that Aeon is a part of the same organization that Saint Germain is. More importantly, that Castlevania consists of multiple time-lines which intersected with each other during those events.

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Ganondorf is much stronger of the 2. It could be a stalemate since neither have holy weapons to put down the other but I would lean toward Ganon if they could hurt each other.

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@valach: Most powerful stone spike I ever seen. It would fell Galactus.

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@boogeymonster: I'm not seeing mountains of indisputable evidence, I'm seeing a hilariously loose interpretation of background graphics and phrasing which is nothing I haven't seen for Sora, Dante, Kratos or any other ridiculously wanked video game character. Hell I had someone throw the same nonsense at me to try and convince me that Ganon himself is universe level not long ago.

So true.

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@valach: Most powerful stone spike I ever seen. It would fell Galactus.

I like how you ignore that's published by IDW, and not by Konami. That it is non-canon, and in Castlevania: The Adventure the above scene doesn't even freaking happen. Which the comic book is loosely based off of. When in the last thread you complained about me using the fact that Ghost Rider's penance stare failed against the Punisher. When you, and ManMadeofKetchup never once bothered to address the feats I provided.

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@boogeymonster: lol I love how everyone called out your terrible wanking.

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@sirfizzwhizz said:

@boogeymonster: lol I love how everyone called out your terrible wanking.

I love how everyone failed to address anything I brought up, and can only dishonestly bring up non-canon adaptations as a counter argument. Particularly, people who complained about their favorite object of worship being downplayed with a low-showing, and doing the same thing they claimed others have.

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@sirfizzwhizz:

You are WRONG ! Look closely ! They use MULTIVERSAL WHIPS and MULTIVERSAL SWORDS ! (JK)

(Castlevania SOTN)

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No I am right The Belmont Legacy is published by IDW, and is a very loose adaptation of Castlevania: The Adventure. It is to Castlevania in the same sense the MCU is to Marvel's Earth-616. In other words, not canon. It would be like using something from the DCEU, say for example Man of Steel, for DC. As for the sarcasm you are not supposed to make note that it is such by saying you're joking. It defeats the purpose of it.

http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Castlevania:_The_Belmont_Legacy

What you just posted is not from The Belmont Legacy or Castlevania: The Adventure, and instead something else entirely. Nor does it show that these are normal swords, and whips. As we already know Alucard is a master alchemist, and able to create weapons as powerful as the Vampire Killer. Such as the Alucard Spear which he gave to Eric Lecarde (you know, same guy who can create dimensions with celestial bodies), and this is extrapolated on in Portrait of Ruin. As for Richter Belmont he has the Vampire Killer, and it is specifically empowered by the sacrifice of Sara Trantoul in Lament of Innocence which is set before all of the other entries in the series as a prequel. Prior to that it was the Whip of Alchemy, and it wasn't normal then either. What Alucard has there is the Alucard Sword. Which just like the Alucard Spear is not normal.

You have absolutely no knowledge regarding Castlevania. Since if you knew anything about it you wouldn't erroneously claim these are nothing special.

This is like saying Mjolnir is "just a hammer" or that the ultimate nullifier is "just a remote."

The most appropriate example is Trunks from Dragonball, and no sane person would claim his sword is normal. Considering the fact it could reduce Frieza to sashimi.

Speaking of Portrait of Ruin even the memory of the Vampire Killer was powerful enough to fight Johnathan Morris, and create a humongous dimension.

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@valach

Who said that the pics comes from the Belmont Legacy ?

Quoting myself:

*(Castlevania SOTN)*

You were treating them as if they were a part of the same canon as the Belmont Legacy, and bringing it up in order to confirm the latter's authenticity. When it confirmed none of the aforementioned, and requires ignoring a large brunt of the story. What you did was take something out of context.

Quoting myself again:

*You are WRONG ! Look closely ! They use MULTIVERSAL WHIPS and MULTIVERSAL SWORDS ! (JK)*

You didn't pay attention. Look at my post again.

And you were being sarcastic, and even made note that you were not being serious here. You even say JK, or joking in parenthesis after that sentence.

Don't try to back track out of what you meant RealityWarper. You sure are dedicated. Some would say even obsessed with all of these dupes, and alternate accounts you make.

I did, and that's why I noted you were being sarcastic. Then you took a scene out of context ignoring that we know that the Alucard Sword, and Vampire Killer are most certainly not normal.

Who wins here in your opinion ?

Is Dracula MULTIVERSAL ?

Most definitely, as I have clarified several times with mountains of evidence.

Which you have neglected to look over. You don't need SirFizzWhizz's input here.

He is only familiar with Lords of Shadow.

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What can be inferred without poor interpretation is that Dracula is an unknown level above galaxy level with at least universal reality warping powers (though this is a little bit iffy as it comes from believing that Dracula's castle is multiple universes or something. It's all hooey really)

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why is this battle getting a lot of attention while the other death battles are not ?

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@Windchampionluc said:

What can be inferred without poor interpretation is that Dracula is an unknown level above galaxy level with at least universal reality warping powers (though this is a little bit iffy as it comes from believing that Dracula's castle is multiple universes or something. It's all hooey really)

No, it's really not outlandish I showed you that the Abyss has one fully-fledged universe. That it is sustained by the Dark Lord. AKA, Dracula as he was the Dark Lord for most of the time-line and the Abyss was weakening after Soma Cruz refused to become Dracula once more. That the Chaotic Realm has four universes, and Chaos throwing the stars and galaxies in them around like frisbess. These are all components of the castle. Which is not going into things such as the mirror dimensions Aguni, and the Kyoma Demon reside in. Nor the Infinite Corridor in Curse of Darkness. That the castle itself is created, and sustained by Dracula's dark power. As noted within Dawn of Sorrow's library, and by the fact the castle can't sustain itself without him. That he can't permanently die without the castle being destroyed either. As noted by Graham Jones in Aria of Sorrow. Julius Belmont couldn't even permanently destroy him, and could only seal away the castle into an eclipse with help from a priest from the Hakuba Shrine. Which still resulted in Julius Belmont going into a coma, and losing his memories. That Brauner was able to create several dimensions out of the castle, and separated with quantum space barriers. Which we see have stars, and celestial bodies. Specifically nine of them, and characters beneath Dracula such as the Time Reaper could destroy the entire time-line. Seriously, Dracula and Alucard both make a mockery of Galamoth who created the Time Reaper in the first place. Dracula even kept Galamoth's soul as a mere trophy in his castle by the time of Aria of Sorrow.

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Why.... are you bothering? I didn't respond to your last replies, what makes you think I would now?

It's nigh pointless to reason with you. You deduce things in a manner that makes me believe you do so just to make something more powerful than it is, and when corrected, you continue to repeat the same thing, thinking that will make what you say true.

Case in point: Aeon and time rift. How you got him having any involvement in its creation when he literally is a being responsible for maintaining time makes no sense whatsoever. Unless you think destroying time is going to maintain it, then sure.

P.S. I also notice that you have the Time Reaper as the creator of the dimensional rift. You're just slapping responsibility to any old body now, aren't ya (hint: the game tells us no one created the dimensional rift)

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@boogeymonster said:

So, if you're not going to read my replies what's the point of you continuing this argument? You can't argue against him if you don't even bother to read my arguments.

If you came to the realization that you were the one that quoted me, you'd realize how inane this response is.

But seeing how poorly your ability to infer, I'm sure you wouldn't.

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#45  Edited By Boogeymonster

@Windchampionluc:

Oh look, the game tells me that the time rift was mended (repaired if that isn't obvious). So Aeon created something that he planned to fix? Super swell guy, causing more problems than the Time Reaper. Aeon the true MVP

Which is ignoring that this is after the Time Reaper has been defeated. That we see Aeon create the Time Rift in the opening cinematic, and that the Dimensional Rift is treated as different than the Time Rift.Which can only be entered by gaining access to the soul keys. The Time Rift was mended because it was no longer needed, and the threat of the Time Reaper was taken care of. There is nothing there saying he was planning to fix it. What he was planning on doing was gaining access to the Dimensional Rift, and defeating the Time Reaper by finding a suitable hero for the job.

@boogeymonster said:

So, if you're not going to read my replies what's the point of you continuing this argument? You can't argue against him if you don't even bother to read my arguments.

If you came to the realization that you were the one that quoted me, you'd realize how inane this response is.

But seeing how poorly your ability to infer, I'm sure you wouldn't.

Due to the fact you keep on dismissing things based on misinterpretations after I have repeatedly corrected you, and others on them.

You try to say my ability to infer is flawed but you can't recognize the connection between the Time Rift, Dimensional Rift, Aeon, and the Time Reaper. As if they are coincidences that have no barring on the story.

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#46  Edited By Proje

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If you came to the realization that you were the one that quoted me, you'd realize how inane this response is.

But seeing how poorly your ability to infer, I'm sure you wouldn't.

He did the same to me. LOL

I was talking to sirfizwhizz and he addressed my post. I never asked for his opinion.

Worse: He actually use strawmen like pretending that I've said that Alucard sword is normal when I've never said anything like that once.

Are his poor reading skills to blame ?

I cannot honestly say what his problem is, but I'm betting his lack of reasoning is one of them (not a fan of people who aren't open to being corrected or other interpretations)

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#47  Edited By Boogeymonster

@valach said:

If you came to the realization that you were the one that quoted me, you'd realize how inane this response is.

But seeing how poorly your ability to infer, I'm sure you wouldn't.

He did the same to me. LOL

I was talking to sirfizwhizz and he addressed my post. I never asked for his opinion.

Worse: He actually use strawmen like pretending that I've said that Alucard sword is normal when I've never said anything like that once.

Are his poor reading skills to blame ?

Howdy, dupe-koon. Are you still salty about cornered over at KMC since it's the only place that accepts your abysmal standards, and your penchant for stalking others?

I addressed your post because you were sarcastically dismissing how powerful Alucard's sword, and the Vampire Killer are based on the faulty assumption that swords and whips by their nature can't be that powerful. Which involved ignoring who made those weapons, and how they were made.

That wasn't a straw man that was me catching you in the act of arguing from incredulity. Which you decided to feign ignorance of, and continue on despite being corrected on it.

The only one with poor reading comprehension here is you RealityWarper.

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Now I'm playing buddy buddy by replying to someone? Jesus, just stop. It's getting a bit embarrassing now.