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#1 Posted by Joygirl (21036 posts) - - Show Bio
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- Pre-52 versions of both

- 1 week prep for both

- Battlefield is the interior of the Daily Planet. Each combatant gets one full day of their prep to go (alone) inside of the building and try to stack the deck in their favor. The other's traps or tricks will be rendered ineffective and invisible until the day of the fight (i.e. they can't use their prep time to disarm the other's traps).

- In character. Both want the other DEAD.

- No henchmen.

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#2 Posted by Joygirl (21036 posts) - - Show Bio

Burmp.

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#3 Posted by MenaceForever2 (3866 posts) - - Show Bio

So are they fighting

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#4 Posted by Joygirl (21036 posts) - - Show Bio

@menaceforever said:

So are they fighting

Um... yes.

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#5 Posted by MenaceForever2 (3866 posts) - - Show Bio

Stalemate

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#6 Posted by Nefarious (34040 posts) - - Show Bio

Deadshot shoots him in between his eyes. 

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#7 Posted by fondofpacman (584 posts) - - Show Bio

With prep i think Joker could think of some nasty crap to pull out a win

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#8 Posted by Hero4life (272 posts) - - Show Bio

@fondofpacman said:

With prep i think Joker could think of some nasty crap to pull out a win

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#9 Posted by Joygirl (21036 posts) - - Show Bio

What kind of traps and tricks do you think they'd set?

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#10 Posted by Fuchsia_Nightingale (10191 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd give Joker 40% chance of winning

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#11 Posted by ThatThorFan (973 posts) - - Show Bio

Joker with prep... nobody knows what he can make with that! Id say Joker 6/10

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#12 Posted by protectyourneck (39 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nefarious said:

Deadshot shoots him in between his eyes.

This, Shoots him And kills him. something batman aint got the gutts to do.

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#13 Posted by ImTheDamnBatman (3973 posts) - - Show Bio

Joker is somewhat of a tactical genius. Joker wins with prep.

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#14 Posted by fondofpacman (584 posts) - - Show Bio

There are lots of places for Joker to place proximity mines or remote bombs in an empty Daily Planet...also Joker would likely employ that smiley nerve gas of his if he was really serious about winning, which is something I have a feeling Deadshot wouldn't be prepared for.

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#15 Posted by _Black (2301 posts) - - Show Bio

Deadshot.

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#16 Posted by Blacklightning13 (937 posts) - - Show Bio

Deadshot.

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#17 Posted by Ferro Vida (34318 posts) - - Show Bio

Deadshot.

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#18 Posted by nickzambuto (27316 posts) - - Show Bio

Joker. How can Deadshot beat a 1 week prepped Joker?

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#19 Posted by Joygirl (21036 posts) - - Show Bio

Burmp. Got a lot of differing opinions here, need some debatez!

Hey brojito, get up in this hizzy and pick a side!

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#20 Posted by beatboks1 (8868 posts) - - Show Bio

@fondofpacman said:

There are lots of places for Joker to place proximity mines or remote bombs in an empty Daily Planet...also Joker would likely employ that smiley nerve gas of his if he was really serious about winning, which is something I have a feeling Deadshot wouldn't be prepared for.

Since Joker's particular type of psychosis means that he want's to torment others he wont be using his lethal Joker venom as that would play into exactly what Floyde wants. That wouldn't be torment. IF he used his non lethal one which makes the victim feel happy and have a black sense of humor, I really don't think he'd like the result of what a "dark happy" Floyde Lawton cold be capable of. That could make Floyde far more dangerous than even Joker has ever though of becoming considering his own little psychosis he's likely to simply blow up the while building and kill them both.

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#21 Posted by Joygirl (21036 posts) - - Show Bio

Bemp.

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#22 Posted by jeanroygrant (20442 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nefarious said:

Deadshot shoots him in between his eyes.
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#23 Posted by fondofpacman (584 posts) - - Show Bio

@beatboks1: Well, OP mentions that they want the other DEAD, so I'd assume Joker is going to be alittle more down to business than usual...especially since it's implied there that they know about each other, why else would they want each other dead? So anyway, I'm saying that against a guy who'd simply try to shoot and kill him, the Joker would be smart enough to go for the kill since he knows this guy won't just knock him out and drag him to the cops like Batman.

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#24 Posted by Joygirl (21036 posts) - - Show Bio

@fondofpacman: Joker is often much quicker to kill non-Batman people. Maybe not quick enough but traps will help.

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#25 Posted by Joygirl (21036 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump

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#26 Edited by DireDrill (2483 posts) - - Show Bio

@beatboks1: While much of this is true, it doesn't mean that the Joker can't just reformulate his Joker Venom. He is a master chemist so making his Joker Venom more painful and less deadly is completely possible with a weeks prep.

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#27 Posted by CalebHara (2421 posts) - - Show Bio

Joker without a doubt. Joker's prepping feats are far better than anything that Deadshot could come up with.

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#28 Posted by Stronger (5051 posts) - - Show Bio

With Prep,Joker curbstomps no doubt.This guy is nicknamed Batman's Nemesis for a reason.

No Prep,Deadshot just shoots him 'til his body disappears.

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#29 Posted by Equonox (1019 posts) - - Show Bio

Joker with prep, for sure. Floyd has hardly any (if any?) prep-feats at all. Joker has oodles. Go read Teen Titans #16-17, Red Hood #18, and most of the other Death of the Family tie-ins. He's eerily brilliant, and is incredibly good at using his opponents' strengths against them (Bart Allen in TT, for example). He definitely knows plenty about Floyd, and meanwhile he's FAR too unpredictable for Floyd to prepare for, even if Floyd was good w/ prep. This isn't going to be as easy as aim-and-shoot, the Joker would never let himself be put in that position against someone he knows is a master assassin. Joker, ftw.

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#30 Edited by Irishlad (661 posts) - - Show Bio

Deadshot beats joker when it comes to gettin in Harley's pants but other than that I think Floyd would underestimated Joker, think he has him figured out and Joker would pull out a wildcard of some sort.

So Joker wins in this setting but if they were further away Floyd would take him out with a sniper.

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#31 Edited by Agony (5836 posts) - - Show Bio

Joker wins hands down. If there is prep...well this is a slaughter. If it is a fight, DS would underestimate the clown prince and pay for it

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#32 Edited by dondave (41521 posts) - - Show Bio

With Prep = Joker

No Prep = Deadshot

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#33 Posted by Fastnoc (379 posts) - - Show Bio

At first I didn't see the prep, but Joker could probably beat Deadshot with prep. If this was a random encounter, I would give it to Deadshot hands down.

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#34 Posted by CF12793 (3084 posts) - - Show Bio

I think the battlefield gives Deadshot a huge advantage, because of his second to none marksman skills. Yeah the Joker could bring some pretty decent traps and weapons with him, but all Deadshot needs is to close in on Joker in a mere second Joker lets his guard down and that ends it.

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#35 Posted by The_Titan_Lord (8148 posts) - - Show Bio

Deadshot.

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#36 Posted by bigcimmerian (10320 posts) - - Show Bio

Deadshot roflstomps him in 1v1 fight, but with prep Joker has good chance.

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#37 Posted by amazing_webhead (8995 posts) - - Show Bio

Joker, because nobody touches his girl without dieing 7 different ways at once (I know you said pre-New 52, but Joker's broken the 4th wall before)

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#38 Posted by XiiX (13584 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

With Prep = Joker

No Prep = Deadshot

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#39 Posted by jayc1324 (21158 posts) - - Show Bio

Joker joker gases him

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#40 Edited by those_eyes (17293 posts) - - Show Bio
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#41 Posted by TheDandyMan (5175 posts) - - Show Bio

Joker should win. He's been able to beat the likes of Batgirl and Deathstroke (or at least escape them), both of whom are skilled tactically plus he does have some skill in hand to hand combat (well, a mix of skill and brutality) so I give him the victory.

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#42 Posted by patrat18 (11637 posts) - - Show Bio
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#44 Posted by Trickster_Hipster (1 posts) - - Show Bio

Joker would win with prep.

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#45 Posted by Stompa (1495 posts) - - Show Bio

The whole daily planet as jokers playground? A full skyscraper filled with deadly traps and jokers insane laugh? Yeah deadshot won't hold back in killing joker but neither will joker like he does with batman and that's why I see the sniper die with a smile on his face....

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#46 Posted by TheComedian_ (1730 posts) - - Show Bio

Joker.

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#47 Posted by Jacthripper (13790 posts) - - Show Bio

Floyd dies laughing

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#48 Posted by The_Kidd (8352 posts) - - Show Bio

With prep i think Joker could think of some nasty crap to pull out a win

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#49 Posted by oceanmaster21 (13788 posts) - - Show Bio

jokr ftw

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#50 Posted by Trent_Jordan (8 posts) - - Show Bio

Without traps in my opinion i think it would be instant death to the joker, However with traps and a little bit of the jokers psychological warfare i think it would be the jokers game. He has a variety of different traps and thinks like laughing gas whilst deadshot is more of a in the moment kinda guy