Ultron wins.
DCEU Wonder Woman vs MCU Ultron
Fanboys please she could hurt doomsday with her sword. In comics it could even cut superman. She could use her lasso and subdue him. Shes Supermans near equal.
@ninjaboss123 said:
Fanboys please she could hurt doomsday with her sword. In comics it could even cut superman. She could use her lasso and subdue him. Shes Supermans near equal.
Lets assume she's everything you say she is. Can she stop Ultron from fleeing via the internet, taking control/stealing/building nuclear weapons, and then flying an Ultronbot with a nuclear weapon to Wonder Woman and blowing her up?
I don't understand why, on these forums, Ultron's status as an artificial intelligence is ignored, but for example, Doomsday's ability to regenerate from death isn't. The ability to survive having his bodies destroyed is one of Ultron's powers, is it not?
We all accept that without Kryptonite, Wonder Woman had no chance at beating Doomsday, so why don't we accept that without the Vision's level of hacking, Wonder Woman has no chance of erasing Ultron from the Internet, preventing him from building more bodies or doing things that don't require a body?
@ninjaboss123: Yeah, but Ultron final form was made from Vibranium (the same material that took Iron Man's repulsor,Vision's gym stone, and Thor's Lightning combined to destroy it.)
@eldorian: @normanbates: are you guys saying vibranum is stronger than kyptonion flesh?
andddd forgive me if im wrong Caps sheild has been broken before by magic. His sheild Vibranium the stuff that ultron is made out of
Great, now the OP has edited and said that Ultron has been erased from the net. Why doesn't he do Doomsday battles and give all his opponents a Kryptonite spear while he's at it? Well, now, we have no idea if Wonder Woman's sword can cut Ultron, so we'll basically never know.
Well , to be fair, I edited it before your comment.
@payneintheass said:
Well , to be fair, I edited it before your comment.
Before my first comment pointing out that Ultron can survive having a body destroyed? I thought I had read the OP before I posted that.
andddd forgive me if im wrong Caps sheild has been broken before by magic. His sheild Vibranium the stuff that ultron is made out of
MCU Cap's shield has been scratched by Black Panther's vibranium claws and has No-Selled everything else, including Mjolnir. We have no evidence that it can be damaged by anything short of infinity stones or vibranium weapons.
@ninjaboss123: Based on live action feats, yes, Superman was stabbed by Doomsday's spikes and I'm pretty sure that's no where as sharp as Vibranium or Adamantium, and like I said it took a combined attack from Iron Man,Thor, and Vision to take Ultron. So in other words, yes, Vibranium > Kryptonians Skin, but only based on feats.
@ninjaboss123: Based on live action feats, yes, Superman was stabbed by Doomsday's spikes and I'm pretty sure that's no where as sharp as Vibranium or Adamantium, and like I said it took a combined attack from Iron Man,Thor, and Vision to take Ultron. So in other words, yes, Vibranium > Kryptonians Skin, but only based on feats.
You do realize that he was still exposed to the Kryptonites radiation at the time, right? There's also the fact that he was stabbed by Kryptonian bone. The fact that it was able to pierce through his suit that's tanked; smallarms fire, 30mm bullets, crashing through mountains at high speeds, plasma shots that destroy A-10s in one shot, the heat of re-entry, and the explosive force and heat of a nuke are all proof that Kryptonian skeletons under yellow sun radiation are no joke.
Case in point - Your argument is invalid.
@normanbates: @eldorian: Based on comics yes his shield has been broken, In kingdom come Dianna's sword pierced Kal's skin. But i suppose live action hasn't depicted it yet. When Wonder Woman slashed doomsday the spear wasnt around was it?
It feels like the NLF is being applied here for Ultron
But in sick of the DC Wank... We know Diana is vunerable to bullets... Ultron should be able to kill her ... Her sword may be able to hurt him but he's not dumb
Ultron 8/10
How do we know this? She has never been hit by bullets before. If you are making this statements based on her blocking the gatling guns with her shield, THAT version of Diana was over 100 years weaker and hadn't discovered her full powers yet. This is BvS WW who is Kryptonian level, not Solo movie WW who from the trailer looked Captain America levelish. One hundred years makes a big difference in power. We may not find out how strong she currently is until Justice League.
It feels like the NLF is being applied here for Ultron
But in sick of the DC Wank... We know Diana is vunerable to bullets... Ultron should be able to kill her ... Her sword may be able to hurt him but he's not dumb
Ultron 8/10
final form ultron doesnt use bullets unless he gets a quinjet her being vulnerable to them is moot..... theres also the fact that in her trailer she cuts two bullets out of the air from close range.
@werkudoro: how is Wanda ripping his heart out a weakness for him?
I don't know that much about movie Wonder Woman yet. I saw her put up a good fight with Doomsday, so any lesser ultron would get whupped. However, I need to see more of her to make a good conclusion.
Based on current feats though, I say vibranium Ultron but not in a stomp.
@adam_taurus: I'm sorry. Based on which feat exactly?
@payneintheass: Ultron. WW isn't piercing his vibranium. He has in more versatile.
@DammeFavour: how about being able to survive Thor's hammer, Vision's beam, and Iron man's repulsors for extended amounts of time? How about beating up and getting Thor in a chokehold that time in Segovia? How about the fact that his skin is made of the same stuff movie Cap's shield is made of? How about being able to survive a beating from the Hulk AFTER being hit by Vision, Thor, and Iron man all at once? How about being able to survive direct hits from Mjolnir and getting right back up?
Sorry, but Wonder Woman got swatted away by Doomsday like a fly.
@adam_taurus: and is anyone u mentioned even remotely close to doomsday in stats?
@DammeFavour: Sure! Thor's hammer is, Thor himself is, Vision's beam is because of the infinity gem, Hulk's beating is, and Cap's hammer has survived blows from Thor's hammer without a dent!
But this is Wonder Woman, bud. Without Superman, Wonder Woman would've gotten creamed. Like I said: Ultron vibranium wins, but not in a stomp.
@georgewbush: is that why he beat up thor?
Assuming Ultron armor is the only Vibranium part and not his inner workings I give it to Diana 7/10. Ultron got the jump on Thor and isn't really representative of his physicals. Hulk is the only person imho in the MCU with stats near BvS kryptonians and he man handled ultron. Diana was keeping up with Doomsday so I'd say she has at least low level Kryptonian stats. Ultron only saving grace is his durability and I don't even think it all covers him.
Isnt sad that people are putting an enemy from a '' big teamp up'' movie against a single character who had only 5 minutes of screen?
Anyway, Diana stomps, her sword is sharp enough to cut Doomsday, someone who would solo the entire MCU
MCU Ultron isnt worth of Justice Leauge time
@the_bladewolf: Vibranium is stronger than Kryptonian flesh and bones, at least movie version
@the_bladewolf: Vibranium is stronger than Kryptonian flesh and bones, at least movie version
Prove it then, becuase Kryptonian tissue can tank nuclear explosions.
Are you really trying to say Ultron is more durable than Doomsday?
I think it depends on whether or not Wonderwoman's Lasso is the lasso of truth and if it works on sentient robots. After all, Ultron is kind of self loathing it seems.
My biggest problem with this thread is that people are just assuming Thor is better than Diana. Where is that coming from? Holding off Doomsday without the ability to fly is better than anything Thor ever did.
My biggest problem with this thread is that people are just assuming Thor is better than Diana. Where is that coming from? Holding off Doomsday without the ability to fly is better than anything Thor ever did.
finally someone said it
WonderWoman is massively overrated and her whole argument in every thread is that she cut through doomsday who has no Cutting resistance feats on par with vibranium or adamantium of any kind but ok.
@dragonbellz: She can use her superior speed to tie him with her indestructible lasso in less than 10 secs.
@dragonbellz: She can use her superior speed to tie him with her indestructible lasso in less than 10 secs.
10 seconds is rather slow. Why couldnt he just grab her and Crush her head in his hand before that happens ?
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