DCEU Wonder Woman vs MCU Hela

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#1851 death4bunnies  Moderator

Hela high dif.

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Hela stomps. Nothing has changed.

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WW stomps, nothing has changed.

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#1854  Edited By Soratoumiga

Hela stomps, nothing has changed.

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WW stomps, nothing has changed. (I had too.)

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Hela stomps, nothing has changed. Lol

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Hela crushes Diana’s sword

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Hela can create a shield using her sword conjuring ability; Thor shattered it with a punch, but that's more than what Diana is able to do.

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Not a debate, cant believe its reached 38 pages, what are people smoking?

Hela impales her, the end, she has no piercing feats; that alone ends the battle, she can't avoid her area of attack, the moment she fails to use superspeed like she did against stephenwolf is the moment she dies, she cannot pierce hela while hela can pierce her and she can definitely react to any attack that she brings

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Diana cuts her head off. Unless Hela has Stepoenwolf's plot armour.

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Hela should take the majority

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I don't think Hela can crush Diana's weapons, that seems like special to only mjolnir's magic.

But this is still a mismatch, not only Hela is immortal due to Asgard (it's just like killing Ego's human form he keeps regenerating again and again), Diana never showed any durability feat that's on par with Thor's durability feats, she can't take more than 2 or 3 stabs from Hela and then she dies.

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@erkan12 said:

I don't think Hela can crush Diana's weapons, that seems like special to only mjolnir's magic.

But this is still a mismatch, not only Hela is immortal due to Asgard (it's just like killing Ego's human form he keeps regenerating again and again), Diana never showed any durability feat that's on par with Thor's durability feats, she can't take more than 2 or 3 stabs from Hela and then she dies.

Why can't diana just dodge the blades? Hogun seemed to do it with little issue for the most part and diana has better speed feats.

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Diana can dodge them, maybe not all of them, but the question then is how will she take Hela down? She probably can’t.

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So when it is WoDC magic, it is NLF.

But Hela on Asgard is immortal is not NLF. Okay.

Diana destroy her, already destroyed more versatile version. Ares.

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#1870  Edited By Erkan12

@kalkent said:
@erkan12 said:

I don't think Hela can crush Diana's weapons, that seems like special to only mjolnir's magic.

But this is still a mismatch, not only Hela is immortal due to Asgard (it's just like killing Ego's human form he keeps regenerating again and again), Diana never showed any durability feat that's on par with Thor's durability feats, she can't take more than 2 or 3 stabs from Hela and then she dies.

Why can't diana just dodge the blades? Hogun seemed to do it with little issue for the most part and diana has better speed feats.

*** ???

The dude blocked only 3 strikes and then KOed with one-kick. ''the little issue'' ended in 8 seconds.

People may think that Hogun fought Hela for an hour after seeing your post....

If Diana tries to run and hide, she would simply use larger blades, then AoE attacks like she used on the Asgardian army and the spaceships, and if Diana still tries to dodge it from Hela, she would use the attack that she used on Surtur, there is no dodging from that. Or the attack that she used against the Valkyrie army. But I don't think that would even come to that.

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#1871  Edited By Erkan12

@lord_titan_ said:

Not a debate, cant believe its reached 38 pages,Hela impales her, the end, she has no piercing feats

As you said it's a mismatch.

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#1872  Edited By Namebk
@arqe said:

So when it is WoDC magic, it is NLF.

But Hela on Asgard is immortal is not NLF. Okay.

Diana destroy her, already destroyed more versatile version. Ares.

You mean the guy that uses scrap metal? He was struggling with an inexperienced gearless WW.

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@namebk: So how does her swords and constructs damage Diana ?

Downplaying Ares with scrap metal, giving way too much credit for things that got destroyed to pieces by M16 ...

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#1874  Edited By Namebk

@arqe: His swords don't have any feats. Hela's sword>Ares swords and it isn't even debatable.

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#1875  Edited By Erkan12

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Hela blitzed experienced Asgardian fighters before, such as Volstagg, Fandral and Skurge.

And Loki too, if you count that skirmish in the Bifrost, Hela is fast.

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Look at the OP. Diana wins unless Hela gets to use her landmass sized variants from a distance. Her God mode was utterly destroying Ares weapons upon contact. Hela's basic swords aren't any different in size and even the larger summoned variants were torn apart by gunfire. Those aren't getting to Diana.

The issue here is people underestimate Diana's maneuverability. She's casually dodged close range bullet barrages and was even cognizant with speed enough to move someone out of the path of fire. IIRC Hela's swords were being parried and even dodged by slower opponents. We know that Diana can blitz crowds of people as she did against the soldiers (and yes while Asguardians are clearly superior to humans, the speed shown between the two are still vastly inferior to Diana's.)

This is morals off so its basically Hela's natural state. I don't see her launching weapons any where near as fast as Diana can react and slice her up. Hela tangoed with the army of Asgardians and was still impaled. Diana angered blitzed bulldozed her enemies and they were helpless. The odds are in her favor here.

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#1877  Edited By karanrasquinha

@outside_85: Hela stomps badly

Hela has

Better durability

Better strength feats

Better combat feats

Way better reaction time..she fought the entire asgardian army at once. Ww was getting tagged by Germans

Better spikes projection

Way better regeneration..dianas sword aint doing anything

The only thing Diana has is bullet timing..but thats no use when your opponent is indestructible

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@rijehu: I agree. Agility and speed must be the determining factor here. Hela has a lot of firepower, but I didn't see her demonstrating responsiveness and attack speed as Diana demonstrated in the movies. She doesn't necessarily have to get close to hit Hela, I don't see how the goddess can handle the Lasso of Truth as Ares did. I believe in the victory of the Amazon.

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Hopefully, after the new WW film, this one will be put to bed once and for all. Because Diana already murders her as it is

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^^bait

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Not a debate, cant believe its reached 38 pages, what are people smoking?

Hela impales her, the end, she has no piercing feats; that alone ends the battle, she can't avoid her area of attack, the moment she fails to use superspeed like she did against stephenwolf is the moment she dies, she cannot pierce hela while hela can pierce her and she can definitely react to any attack that she brings

This

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The real Goddess decapitates with her magic sword and super speed.

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^^ bait

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@sufferedtoker: ok finally some topic beyond Hulk thor and kryptonians. Care to explain why you think so?

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@darkthunder: Because she's much faster, has a magic sword, and has already defeated someone with literally Helas exact power set except more versatile and an actual god. The true goddess decaps the pretender pretty quick.

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@darkthunder: Because she's much faster,

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how is she faster?

has a magic sword, and has already defeated someone with literally Helas

by redirecting his own attack. Good job ignoring context

exact power set except more versatile and an actual god. The true goddess decaps the pretender pretty quick.

oh you mean hela? Sure

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@darkthunder:

how is she faster?

Diana can casually react to bullets, lightning blasts and heat vision. That's a feat for Steppenwolf, who is faster than Hela.

by redirecting his own attack. Good job ignoring context

LOL. She can do the same to Hela's fodder blades.

oh you mean hela? Sure

No. Diana still slides her head at FTE speeds.

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@darkthunder:

how is she faster?

Diana can casually react to bullets,

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lightning blast

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s and heat vision. That's a feat for Steppenwolf, who is faster than Hela.

fodderwolf has no speed feats comparable to hela. He is just as fast as Hulk

by redirecting his own attack. Good job ignoring context

LOL. She can do the same to Hela's fodder blades.

no she can't

She doesn't have TK. I can't help but laugh at this idiocy

oh you mean hela? Sure

No. Diana still slides her head at FTE speeds.

she was never FTE

Diana gets impaled by infinite blades in every direction or becomes helas executioner or fenris chew toy

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@darkthunder:

fodderwolf has no speed feats comparable to hela. He is just as fast as Hulk

Incorrect. Fighting Diana and Arthur at the same time, two beings with much better combat speed than Hulk by feats. Also much more impressive.

no she can't

The almost featless Hogan is able to easily not only close the distance but land a strike on Hela. If this had been Wonder Woman, off with her head.

She doesn't have TK. I can't help but laugh at this idiocy

Or he could just TK her swords back at her with stronger telekinesis. Ever heard of God Mode Wonder Woman?

she was never FTE

Incorrect. Hela aimdodged and never reacted to bullets, Thor just missed the target in the other instance. Diana's speed is hypersonic. Try again.

Diana gets impaled by infinite blades in every direction or becomes helas executioner or fenris chew toy

Diana still blitzes and decapitates the pretender. And also Steppenwolf reduces Banner to a puddle of green blood.

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fodderwolf has no speed feats comparable to hela. He is just as fast as Hulk

Incorrect. Fighting Diana and Arthur at the same time, two beings with much better combat speed than Hulk by feats. Also much more impressive.

diana yes but Arthur?

no she can't

The almost featless Hogan is able to easily not only close the distance but land a strike on Hela. If this had been Wonder Woman, off with her head.

well, same can be said for ludendorrf

She doesn't have TK. I can't help but laugh at this idiocy

Or he could just TK her swords back at her with stronger telekinesis. Ever heard of God Mode Wonder Woman?

yeah I have heard that she doesn't have TK you fool

she was never FTE

Incorrect. Hela aimdodged and never reacted to bullets

prove it

, Thor just missed the target in the other instance

prove it

. Diana's speed is hypersonic. Try again.

Diana and hypersonic? What drugs are you smoking?

Diana gets impaled by infinite blades in every direction or becomes helas executioner or fenris chew toy

Diana still blitzes and decapitates the pretender. And also Steppenwolf reduces Banner to a puddle of green blood.

fodderwolf gets three shotted

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diana yes but Arthur?

Arthur is faster than a dumb creature who couldn't tag a supersoldier.

well, same can be said for ludendorrf

Diana's still way faster by feats.

yeah I have heard that she doesn't have TK you fool

Incorrect. She can redirect or destroy the blades like she did with Ares.

prove it

Do you watch the GIFs that you post? We see Hela moving her body and her cape before any bullet is onscreen.

prove it

Watch the scene slowed down and you can see that. She moved her hands before the attack in any occasion.

Diana and hypersonic? What drugs are you smoking?

Nah, I simply have eyes. Diana can casually dodge bullets and react to HV which was stated to be faster than light.

fodderwolf gets three shotted

Steppenwolf would stomp Hulk, he lacks any form of skill and durability and doesn't have a counter to the axe.

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Still Diana

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@darkthunder:

diana yes but Arthur?

Arthur is faster than a dumb creature who couldn't tag a supersoldier.

Arthur got tagged by an rpg. Hulk caught an RPG

well, same can be said for ludendorrf

Diana's still way faster by feats.

nope

yeah I have heard that she doesn't have TK you fool

Incorrect. She can redirect or destroy the blades like she did with Ares.

she has used God mode only once. Ares blades are made of scrap metal and are not as powerful as helas.

prove it

Do you watch the GIFs that you post? We see Hela moving her body and her cape before any bullet is onscreen.

yes I did. Bullets should reach her instantly she reacted to bullets

prove it

Watch the scene slowed down and you can see that. She moved her hands before the attack in any occasion.

no. You should probably re-watch the scene

Diana and hypersonic? What drugs are you smoking?

Nah, I simply have eyes. Diana can casually dodge bullets and react to HV which was stated to be faster than light.

yet you only see half the picture. I guess Batman is ftl now lol

fodderwolf gets three shotted

Steppenwolf would stomp Hulk, he lacks any form of skill and durability and doesn't have a counter to the axe.

the same crappy axe that failed to cut cyborg? Same fodderwolf that was killed by Batman level beings? Lol at your arguments

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#1897  Edited By Lilbroomstick

FTL DCEU Wonder Woman=credibility out the window honestly. I just can't see it

OT: Hela murders, slower or not

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@darkthunder:

Arthur got tagged by an rpg. Hulk caught an RPG

Great. You use low showing and ignore the fact that combat speed =\= reaction speed. The dumb Hulk is consistently peak human in combat speed meanwhile Arthur was able to tag and keep it up with Steppenwolf, somebody who's fast as Diana (Mach 3.5 bullet timer).

nope

Yes, she is. You don't have a counter here so thanks for the concession.

she has used God mode only once. Ares blades are made of scrap metal and are not as powerful as helas.

She can use it here on this fight. Hela's M16 blades dropped him lmao. Wolf's axe>Hela's fodder blades. Ares' blades are on the same level at his axe, which was able to cut Steppenwolf's armor. Therefore we can say that they should be on par with Diana's sword.

yes I did. Bullets should reach her instantly she reacted to bullets

She didn't. We can clearly see that she aimdodged.

no. You should probably re-watch the scene

That's your headcanon. We clearly see that Hela's hands are moving before the attack is landed.

yet you only see half the picture. I guess Batman is ftl now lol

You are clearly biased. Anyways, Heat Vision's speed>Hela's fodder blades.

the same crappy axe that failed to cut cyborg? Same fodderwolf that was killed by Batman level beings? Lol at your arguments

LOL at your arguments. Do you realize that Steppenwolf was canonically weaker after he lost his axe? Also, that's a feat for Cyborg. Stephen wolf has his crater feat, which is more than enough to prove he can hurt The Incredible Fodder.

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From what I've heard, hela is literaly the counter for DCEU Diana. Even if we ignored the most-likley-going-to-be-an-outlier feat of destroying Mjoilner, hela is literaly a swords woman.