Wonder Woman was indeed doing real well against Doomsday, but it was her shield that took most of the pounding. When she lost her shield, she was getting completely overwhelmed by DD. He heat visioned her, and she was screaming from it. Yes, she didn't really look hurt, but I credit that to not only good durability but also lazy directing and effects. I also re watched the fight and cant see any instance that Doomsday moved faster than sound. He only does this against batman when he is in his jet. Doomsday is also a barbarian when he fight, no skill. Faora has shown constant super speed even smacking clark around. They should take her down. She should give them a heck of a fight though. 6/10 for the Kryptonians.
@superhero24: The creators of MoS confirmed that the sonic booms that come from Clark and Zod when they fight are indeed there because their punches are supersonic. Doomsday had the same sonic boom around his punches every time.
@foxerdes: Diana literally laughed after having been punched by Doomsday. After the battle, she was just fine, no damage taken. Absolutely fine. Not even a scratch
@foxerdes: Picking and choosing what parts you want to show is stupid. You say she was staggered by a punch from Doomsday and '' She can take a hit but she never laughed of anything'' by using this GIF:
But won't even show the whole sequence:
That's cherry picking to a whole new level.
Furthermore, I'm not even sure you know what staggered means. Laughing (*EDIT* Smiling off*) off an attack and standing back up to counter another is definitely not being staggered. This is being staggered:
Deliberately neglecting evidence and cutting it out is something very low to do in a debate.
No, first of all she smiled. Second, she was disarmed in the process and we could hear her moan in pain. Last but not least it took her a moment to get up, she did it quickly and that's why it's a good feat but saying that she laughed at Doomsday hit is a falsehood.
A moment to get up? She didn't even try to get up until seconds after being able to move again. LOL
In the same condition they were while fighting Clark, Diana would take it without a doubt,but in these conditions,hmm...she would still take it,the major ability that they didn't have before is heat vision and she got hit by that sometime in the doomsday fight and it wasn't enough to put her down despite that it caught her of guard and she didn't block it, it's gonna be tough but she skewers them anyway.
@thunderprince: Misconception. They simply dont have any special resistance to it. Plus, WW isnt a spellcaster lol and neither is thor. None of them are truly "magical".
@thunderprince: Yeah but there are no kryptonians in WW lol. I dont doubt there is magic but just saying that kryptonians are not weak to magic, they just dont have special resistance.
Their skin strength is still incredibly durable. You need magic + lots of power/strength to hurt kryptonians without kryptonite
@sirneko: the way she blitzed the soldiers, her energy projection, and skill feats. Couple that with the raw power she displayed against doomsday, and that's a wrap.
@sirneko: the way she blitzed the soldiers, her energy projection, and skill feats. Couple that with the raw power she displayed against doomsday, and that's a wrap.
Faora blitzed soldiers a lot faster than WW did, I was actually sad that she was shown so slow.
All I remember was her cutting Doomsday up, not really raw power.
@sirneko: she knocked him around weigh punches, restrained him, and knocked him around with her bracelets. Also, Diana's blitz of the soldiers was more impressive than Faora's imo
@sirneko: she knocked him around weigh punches, restrained him, and knocked him around with her bracelets. Also, Diana's blitz of the soldiers was more impressive than Faora's imo
I for the life of me can't remember or find the scenes where she did anything with her raw power to him that was noteworthy, could I get clips or gifs?
We have to agree to disagree on the blitz until the movie comes out on Blu-ray because I was personally very disappointed with WW's speed.
@sirneko: uhhhh.... I dunno where everybody finds their gifs, but I'm sure I can give you something.
As for the blitzes, perhaps it's the difference in portrayal. Faora moves at speed while everyone else is moving normally, but Diana's sequence was slomo. Iirc she was also deflecting bullets as she charged through them
Don't watch the 'bull rush' instead Watch the motion of Faora's punch '....and on video' btw because the frame rate of those gifs are not always correct. Faora turns zips forward in a straight line throws a normal speed haymaker....turns again zooms forward in a straight line throws another haymaker....turns once more zips in with straight line speed...all of those haymakers are pretty much 'normal speed' for a human...count as they are thrown combo one, two, three ....normal karate, UFC fighters and boxers can throw blows at these speeds
What Faora has is super speed in a straight line and super strength but she does not have super reflexes and super re-action speeds
A normal human real life fighter can throw a blow faster than Faora because she simply had no super reaction feats in her movie
WTF get real Faora guys is WAAAAAY, WAAAY SLOOOOWER.
Wonder Woman and even Thor both have reflex feats that make a fool out of Faroa, she has no re-action or reflex feats that put her above anyone in say a regular Stallone or Jackie Chan movie
Supes at least has the re-action feat where he caught Batman's gas grenade from point plank
on comicvine some have a failure in understanding the difference between straight line speed and the difference up close reflexes and re-actions. Faora has super speed in a straight line, Faora is also human like, yes she bull rushed forward...then she throws a slow haymaker....she zooms forward again in a straight line a kick....Faora bullrushes again another slow haymaker....it can be argued real life boxers kick boxers or UFC have better speed than Faora, have you never seen how fast a real fighter punches? she does not have genuine reflexes, what she does is BULLRUSH using STRAIGHT LINE SPEED zooms in but then throws a slow punch. Diana does however have genuine reflexes and super speed reactions, Wonder Woman blocking multiple gunshots from point blank, blocking bullets AFTER they are fired, looking at events almost in slow motion. Faora and Superman, neither of them have re-action or reflex feats that can compete with Wonder Woman, Diana is simply faster than Faora, MANY MANY TIMES FASTER!! Wonder Woman has genuine speed reflexes and super speed reactions. Superman not so much, what he does is bullrush or fly fast, in a straight line.
Also to note
Magic can have powerful and unpredictable effects on Kryptonian and their magical enemies have often proven to be the most dangerous.
Since the abilities of Kryptonians, however incredible, are natural, rather than supernatural, powerful magic-based attacks completely bypass their invulnerability, making the mighty aliens just as vulnerable to these magic-based attacks as a regular human with no enhanced durability would be. This is possible due to magic defying and altering sciences.
@sirneko: the way she blitzed the soldiers, her energy projection, and skill feats. Couple that with the raw power she displayed against doomsday, and that's a wrap.
Faora blitzed soldiers a lot faster than WW did, I was actually sad that she was shown so slow.
All I remember was her cutting Doomsday up, not really raw power.
Wonder Woman seemed to be slow in her first scenes against the soldiers because they were actually in slow motion. Also, she was barely starting, and at the final battle I'm pretty sure she blitzed a lot of more soldiers and in a more epic form at the same speed as Faora or even a lil faster.
And something that we have to clarify is that Faora was being ruthless and trying so hard to eliminate humans (and she has some serious mental illness lol), while Diana's missions was just stop Ares and protect anyone else. I'm pretty sure that if Diana was in Faora's place (Ruthless and crazy and trying to end the human race), she would enter in a waaay more powerful mode.
However, I'll just wait to see JL to see how good she is from fighting soldiers to destroy Parademons.
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