DCEU Superman vs MCU Thanos

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Posted by Buckstop (115 posts) 4 months, 21 days ago

Poll: DCEU Superman vs MCU Thanos (250 votes)

Superman 60%
Thanos 40%
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Since Thanos is clearly the undisputed heavyweight champ of the MCU, and Superman is the undisputed champ in the DCEU, it's only natural they should face off.

Superman is post JL. Thanos has his armor and sword, no stones. Did Endgame give base Thanos the feats now to beat the Kryptonian? Or does Superman still win handily?

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#1 Edited by Richubs (7477 posts) - - Show Bio

He still loses lmao

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#2 Edited by miekskywalker (2596 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos has been tested and has beaten all the opponents he faced in endgame (apart from Wanda who would do the same to anyone without outside interference)

Superman hasn't been tested

Thus thanos has better feats and wins

Using ig twice >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nuke

Superman would only piss him off he cant really win. Carol tried and failed who is basically mcu superman (he used the powergem to quickly get her off him before someone else came and joined the tug of war for the gauntlet otherwise he would have beat her down without it)

Superman needs a movie against darkseid someone who can put his feats to the test.

Alot of the heroes thanos beat had better feats than superman

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#3 Posted by Buckstop (115 posts) - - Show Bio

Not in the OP but in character.

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#4 Posted by batmanprep (1913 posts) - - Show Bio

@miekskywalker: you could be not be more wrong.

Supe snaps Thano's neck and call it a day

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#5 Posted by Lan_Fan (18547 posts) - - Show Bio
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#6 Posted by miekskywalker (2596 posts) - - Show Bio

@batmanprep: Carol had him in a choke and was trying hard to keep him in it

I dont think anyone snapping his neck

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#7 Edited by GoodAfternoon (338 posts) - - Show Bio

Base thanos can solo DCEU universe.

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#8 Posted by deactivated-5d01cd4d1eb4b (2650 posts) - - Show Bio
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#9 Posted by LuminousHydra (1274 posts) - - Show Bio

Clark will snap his backbone in half.

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#10 Posted by WhyZoSerious (2129 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman is strong only on paper. He never faced someone like Thanos that is acually strong, experienced and can fight.

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#12 Posted by Petey_is_Spidey (11845 posts) - - Show Bio

Statue force Superman still takes this

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#13 Posted by Sargeras (1214 posts) - - Show Bio

Supes is way overrated but he wins regardless. Thanos isn't going down as easy as people think, though.

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#14 Posted by APEX_pretador (21481 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman is faster, Thanos is stronger

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#15 Posted by Chimeroid (9274 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman beats him handily.

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#16 Posted by chuggachugga170 (562 posts) - - Show Bio

thanos has some pretty good reaction time such as blocking 6 repulsor blasts at once and blocking a photon blast with his hand in a near dead state whilst not seeing who shot it. he also tanked carol's bullrush and photon blast to the face which could destroy warships. In addition, his sword broke vibranium which can survive city busting attacks and in my poll, the majority deemed it able to pierce superman. just giving some notes for those who havent seen the movie

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#17 Posted by chuggachugga170 (562 posts) - - Show Bio

he also took a continous bolt of lightning which can reach 53,540 degrees Fahrenheit

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#18 Edited by Early_Cuyler (107 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman wins.

Didn't we have a thread about Superman vs. Captain Marvel recently? Didn't most people agree that the speed blitz would give him the edge over her?

Anyway, Captain Marvel went head to head with Thanos and only lost because he had the gauntlet. Without it, she likely would have soloed Thanos.

If Captain Marvel can solo Thanos (w/o gauntlet), then Superman can too.

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#19 Edited by Richard96 (5929 posts) - - Show Bio

The statue still dies.

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#21 Posted by jashugan (6652 posts) - - Show Bio

he also took a continous bolt of lightning which can reach 53,540 degrees Fahrenheit

nah

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#22 Edited by KingLouie (3586 posts) - - Show Bio

Wtf equalize speed.

Then he would win.

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#23 Posted by chuggachugga170 (562 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashugan said:
@chuggachugga170 said:

he also took a continous bolt of lightning which can reach 53,540 degrees Fahrenheit

nah

cant argue with that bulletproof argument

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#25 Posted by deactivated-5cd199bca0205 (74 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman

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#26 Posted by ThEBeStOfTheBeST (12277 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman 9/10. He's literally superior in everything, hits far harder (especially with his speedblitzes) and is far more durable and ridiculously faster and more versatile (flight, heat vision and freeze breath). The only way for Thanos to win is if he has the blade, and speed is equalized.

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#27 Posted by Kirkseven (3636 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman

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#28 Posted by Darkthunder (3758 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman if speed isn't equalised

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#29 Posted by Subline (9522 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman still wrecks.

Those poll results tho.

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#30 Posted by MainJP (7546 posts) - - Show Bio

...Nah, Superman snaps his neck.

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#31 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (18772 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos gets the Steppenwolf treatment tbh.

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#32 Posted by Eobard21 (6428 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman always

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#33 Posted by FaradaySloth (12182 posts) - - Show Bio

RIP Thanos

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#34 Posted by SpeedforceUser_ (413 posts) - - Show Bio

How will Thanos overcome the statueforce??? Come out MCUtards, please enlighten me on this subject.

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#35 Posted by Dabalya (222 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman still destroys

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#36 Posted by Supermanforever (9823 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman crushes, not even close.

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#37 Posted by Supermanforever (9823 posts) - - Show Bio

@subline said:

Superman still wrecks.

Those poll results tho.

polls are fanboy votes, they dont matter.

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#38 Posted by phillip33 (4594 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos wins, more skilled, more powerful, and has a weapon that will oneshot

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#39 Posted by panda_emperorix (4226 posts) - - Show Bio

Still Thanos

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#40 Posted by GohanDorado (436 posts) - - Show Bio

@whyzoserious: Despite facing doomsday who is stronger than thanos in every way? Alright then.

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#42 Posted by arqe (983 posts) - - Show Bio

Any Kryptonian wrecks Thanos easily. Doomsday is an extra and will just eat him alive.

Thanos is more of a versus for Wonder Woman or Aquaman.

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#43 Edited by ThEBeStOfTheBeST (12277 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman busted the World Engine while being weakened from Krypton's atmosphere and under the constant pressure of the gravity beam that displaced thousands of thousands of tons of water, Superman was right beneath it meaning he had to bypass the force applied on him in order to reach and bust dismantle the WE. However, the most impressive part about the feat in question is that the World Engine, which is nearly a kilometer in height and weighs more than a million tons, was moving at mach 1 speed at bare minimum when it hit the ground (here is the actual clip, it was traveling great amount of distances in a very, very, very short amount of time and considering its height, it should be moving at mach 6-10 speed, or at the very least mach 1 or 343 m/s which is lowball), creating a massive city block level+ shockwave that destroyed most of its surroundings and a portion of the mountain located behind it (if not all of it, it legit looked like it busted said mountain XD), all without taking any kind of damage whatsoever, and Superman dismantled that thing in a weakened state with just a speedblitz (read post 266 it pretty much contains every single instance that I'm about to touch upon down below). This is arguably his best striking force feat to date, and it's only logical to assume that he's gotten more powerful and stronger in the subsequent events/movies, that's sorta how his powers works.

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As for its height quote:

Also a fun fact about the World Engine:

Funny thing about the world engine, it's actually bigger than I thought it was, which means both it's speed and mass were also much greater than I thought.

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The plane in this pic is a C-17 Globemaster III, which is around 53 meters long, and the Black Zero is around 20x bigger than it, which would make it around 1 kilometer in height.

I was kinda able to calculate the World Engine's actual height, using the info above that @mrtery provided me with like a couple of days ago:

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The width of that^ plane is 20 pixels, with which we're going to calculate the height of the World Engine. The height of the Engine is 372,06 pixels or about 18,603 times the width of said plane, multiplying that with 53 meters we get the actual height of the damn thing which is 986 meters (14 meters away from a kilometer) or 158 meters taller than the tallest building on the planet aka Burj Khalifa, as well as much denser and thicker than any Earth-based metal, meaning its actual weight is much higher than 1 million ton (take Burj Khalifa for example, we know that: 1) it's smaller than the WE, 2) it has an empty weight of 500,000 tons or half a million ton, 3) it's mostly made up of concrete, that means the WE should be at least 10x heavier or 5 million tons, probably even more, given the fact that it's completely made up of a much more denser material or/Kryptonian metal) and it hit the ground at low mach speeds releasing a massive shockwave in the process without a single dent on it.

I don't think Thanos is shrugging off a speedblitz of that magnitude, especially given that Superman's strength is at 100% in this scenario and not weakened therefore a serious speedblitz from a fully powered Superman should be dozens of times more powerful than that^ one, tanking multiple non-lightning enhanced Mjolnir strikes or a CM speedblitz simply doesn't compare, none of the ships Carol busted (Sanctuary included) are really close to the World Engine, durability-wise.

Superman even with his regular non-FTS strikes can also damage materials just as durable as the World Engine with little-to-no effort, such as the Black Zero which is a modern version of the Kryptonian Scout Ship ('Man of Steel' Special Features | Blue Ray) that easily pummeled its way through more than 6+ Skyscrapers at the same time one-shotting them as a result without slowing down one bit, and tanked crashing into Earth at reentry speeds (20,000 years ago), and destroyed thousands of thousands of tons of solid ice upon activation releasing a powerful earthquake that was felt from the military camp situated a mile away from the ship's original crash site, and was unfazed by the singularity that swallowed the World Engine. Now, guess who effortlessly busted his way through it? That's right, Clark did, using nothing but his strength during DoJ (his initial contact with Doomsday) and JL (the Resurrection scene), and of course Man of Steel.

Moreover, scaling from pre-flight Zod who had a decent striking power, poor lad was strong enough to cancel the momentum of a fully powered Clark's speedblitz with just a punch, sending him flying miles in the opposite direction, through multiple buildings like a hot knife through butter, and that puts Superman's regular striking force at a level ahead of building busting level+, especially considering he has gotten a lot stronger since the events of MoS. Not to mention, Clark has feats like punching Doomsday, who's much larger, taller and heavier and more durable than Thanos, a couple of extra miles deep into space, and punching Zod through city blocks..etc, Thanos striking simply isn't this good, it has never been this good, and that's not counting the fact that Thanos isn't really touching Superman, the discrepancy in speed between the two characters is tremendous, and the latter has far superior physicals, durability and is more versatile (flight + skyscraper shredding HV "tie-ins" + freeze breath). His speed on its own negates Thanos's superior hand-to-hand skills and the danger his blade poses:

Before quoting a post I made several days ago regarding Superman's combat and travel speed, I just want to clarify that Superman has always been faster than sound in combat since MoS, creating sonic booms, mach cones while clashing with Zod, Faora and Namek..etc. The VFX supervisor and Zack Snyder explicitly stated that they deliberately slowed down the fighting scenes so that the audience could feel like they're witnessing everything that's happening on-screen, while giving us visual cues aka mach cones, as an indicator of said Kryptonians FTS operational speed:

"Implying speed while allowing the actions during the fight sequences to be perceived by the audience was part of the initial testing handled by MPC. “We need them to be able to throw punches in some cases that are faster than the speed of sound,” states John DesJardin. “What we did was to keep the action on the edge of being not perceived but it would still be there. We layered in glows on the leading surfaces of the fist and arm. We put in some Mach cones to give you a visual cue that, ‘This fist must be going super fast as I can see that condensation right there"

Play the fighting scenes at x0.25 speed, and you will notice that sort of pressure wave around the Kryptonians fists when they take shots at one another, that's what is known as a mach cone and it only appears after the sound barrier has been broken, a blatant indication of FTS combat speed. For example, here is Superman swinging at Namek (it should be noted that the gif is in slow mo):

Just play the rest of the scenes at x0.25 speed...
Just play the rest of the scenes at x0.25 speed...

He and Zod were throwing FTS punches at each other, the whole fight happened at that speed, like I said above, it was just slowed down so we could perceive their movements. Now, with that being said, I can now quote my post that I talked 'bout earlier in regards to Superman's overall speed:

"To be fair, he can still dodge, kick and deliver punches while traveling at hypersonic speed as we've witnessed during the Black Zero event (that's what the Mos art book called the MoS invasion), in his epic mano y mano with Zod:

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You can see him making casual 90 degree turns while pursuing Zod without bumping into a single skyscraper, as well as trading blows with the guy at that speed.

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Notice how Zod punches Superman hard enough to send him flying at supersonic speeds, and still manage to accelerate forward fast enough to effortlessly catch Clark's body before he could travel more than 5-10 meters. This means his operational speed is easily at supersonic+ level given the ease at which he caught Superman.

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And then shortly afterwards he decided to take the fight into space^ (this didn't happen in a one-shot, there was a blatant time-cut in between, but still a high-end triple digit mach speed feat, on par with his first flight scene y'know when he traveled all around the planet in a matter of minutes, if not seconds).

Likewise, he managed a similar feat in the tie ins wherein he easily evades and dances around multiple energy blasts using his flight speed and then blitzes the attackers.

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General Mills Presents Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice #1

And that^ is just the tip of the iceberg, he still has far better feats f.e during the DoJ events, he rescued Lois via pinpointing her exact location while she was still falling off the Lex building, and does the same thing with Doomsday and then blitzes his ass into oblivion despite being several thousand miles above the Earth's surface, he accomplished this feat under less than a minute, which is a low end triple digit mach speedblitz.

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And prior to that he easily reacted to and punched Doomsday much faster than the ICBM that was like 20-50 meters behind them and at that point the missile would've already reached its top speed (6-7 km/s or mach 20 - source), yet Clark punched Doomsday a couple of extra thousand meters farther into space and then paused and turned around to get a good look at the missile (he perceived it) and then proceeded to chase after Doomsday, meaning he had to move his whole body and extend his arms to punch Doomsday much faster than mach 20, and Doomsday was sent flying at much greater speeds than the punch itself and Superman still caught up with him later. This is one of his most underappreciated pre-JL speed feats.

And btw Clark wasn't at full Strength
And btw Clark wasn't at full Strength

However, the take away from all this is that he can still deliver blows while blitzing his opponents at MHS speed. Moreover, the official BvS guidebooks explicitly stated that his reaction speed = his travel speed or else he wouldn't be able to avoid anything in his path, let alone casually make 90 degree turns or fight someone at those speeds. All in all, whether or not you think his reflexes/reaction speed is equivalent to his flight speed doesn't really hold any water especially given his consistent use of travel speed in combat.

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Truth is, Superman has always been that fast, and Justice League basically highlighted it."

Side note: Yeah, sorry about the whole Filmora thingy, I can't remove their watermark from my gifs unless I buy the damn product which I'm not going to do.

With all of the above having been said, I'm not seeing how Thanos wins this without the gauntlet or the speed equalized option unless Superman somehow trips over something or loses consciousness mid-blitzing and bumps into that blade with his head first at hypersonic speed, he ain't losing this fight. I mean.. not only is Superman ridiculously faster and more durable than Thanos, but also has the damage output necessary to put him into deep sleep, he's gonna be put on blast after the first blitz and what comes thereafter is... let's just say it won't end well for Thanos.

Superman wins, 9-10/10 mainly because of his insane speed and physicals.

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#45 Posted by Rockette (6659 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman wins.

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#46 Posted by FlashGreaterSignEveryone (1897 posts) - - Show Bio

Clark, and it's not even close.

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#47 Posted by Worldofthunder (5192 posts) - - Show Bio

Obviously Superman stomps. Anyone with common sense can understand that a being of equal strenght, if not superior, can make you appear as a statue, you're going to get your ass kicked.

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Superman busted the World Engine while being weakened from Krypton's atmosphere and under the constant pressure of the gravity beam. The impressive part about the feat in question is that the World Engine, which is nearly a kilometer in height and weighs more than 1 millions tons, was moving at mach 1 speed at bare minimum when it hit the ground (here is the actual clip, it was traveling great amount of distances in a very, very, very short amount of time and considering its height, it should be moving at mach 6-10 speed, or at the very least mach 1 or 343 m/s which is lowball), creating a massive city block level shockwave that destroyed most of its surroundings and a portion of the mountain located behind it (if not all of it, it legit looked like it busted said mountain XD), all without taking any kind of damage whatsoever, and Superman dismantled that thing in a weakened state with just a speedblitz (read post 266 it pretty much contains every single instance that I'm about to touch upon down below). This is arguably his best striking force feat to date, and it's only logical to assume that he's gotten more powerful and stronger in the subsequent events/movies, that's kinda how his powers works.

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As for its height quote:

Also a fun fact about the World Engine:

Funny thing about the world engine, it's actually bigger than I thought it was, which means both it's speed and mass were also much greater than I thought.

No Caption Provided

The plane in this pic is a C-17 Globemaster III, which is around 53 meters long, and the Black Zero is around 20x bigger than it, which would make it around 1 kilometer in height.

I was kinda able to calculate the World Engine's actual height, using the info above that @mrtery provided me with like a couple of days ago:

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The width of that^ plane is 20 pixels, with which we're going to calculate the height of the World Engine. The height of the Engine is 372,06 pixels or about 18,603 times the width of said plane, multiplying that with 53 meters we get the actual height of the damn thing which is 986 meters (14 meters away from a kilometer) or 158 meters taller than the tallest building on the planet aka Burj Khalifa, as well as much denser and thicker than any Earth-based metal, meaning its actual weight is much higher than 1 million ton (take Burj Khalifa for example, we know that: 1) it's smaller than the WE, 2) it has an empty weight of 500,000 tons or half a million ton, 3) it's mostly made up of concrete, that means the WE should be at least 10x heavier or 5 million tons, probably even more, given the fact that it's completely made up of a much more denser material or/Kryptonian metal) and it hit the ground at low mach speeds releasing a massive shockwave in the process without a single dent on it.

I don't think Thanos is shrugging off a speedblitz of that magnitude, especially given that Superman's strength is at 100% in this scenario and not weakened therefore a serious fully powered speedblitzes from Superman should be dozens of times more powerful than that^ one, tanking multiple non-lightning enhanced Mjolnir strikes or a CM speedblitz simply doesn't compare, none of the ships Carol busted (Sanctuary included) are really close to the World Engine, durability-wise.

Superman with his regular non-FTS strikes can also damage materials just as durable as the World Engine with little-to-no effort, such as the Black Zero which is a modern version of the Kryptonian Scout Ship ('Man of Steel' Special Features | Blue Ray) that easily pummeled its way through more than 6+ Skyscrapers at the same time one-shotting them as a result without slowing down one bit, and tanked crashing into Earth at reentry speeds (20,000 years ago), and destroyed thousands of thousands of tons of solid ice upon activation releasing a powerful earthquake that was felt from the military camp situated a mile away from the ship's original crash site, and was unfazed by the singularity that swallowed the World Engine. Now, guess who effortlessly busted his way through it? That's right, Clark did, using nothing but his strength during DoJ (his initial contact with Doomsday) and JL (the Resurrection scene), and of course Man of Steel.

Moreover, scaling from pre-flight Zod who had a decent striking power, poor lad was strong enough to cancel the momentum of a fully powered Clark's speedblitz with just a punch, sending him flying miles in the opposite direction, through multiple buildings like a hot knife through butter, puts Superman's regular striking force at a level ahead of building level+, especially considering he has gotten a lot stronger since the events of MoS. Not to mention, Clark has feats like punching Doomsday, who's much larger, taller and heavier and more durable than Thanos, a couple of miles deep into space, and punching Zod city blocks-distances..etc, Thanos striking simply isn't this good. And that's not counting the fact that Thanos isn't really touching Superman, the discrepancy in speed between the two characters is really tremendous, and the latter has far superior physicals, durability and is more versatile (flight + skyscraper shredding HV "tie-ins" + freeze breath). His speed on its own negates Thanos's superior hand-to-hand skills and the danger his blade poses:

Before quoting a post I made several days ago regarding Superman's combat and travel speed, I just want to clarify that Superman has always been faster than sound in combat since MoS, creating sonic booms, mach cones while clashing with Zod, Faora and Namek..etc. The VFX supervisor and Zack Snyder explicitly stated that they deliberately slowed down the fighting scenes so that the audience could feel like they're witnessing everything that's happening on-screen, while giving us visual cues aka mach cones, as an indicator of said Kryptonians FTS operational speed:

"Implying speed while allowing the actions during the fight sequences to be perceived by the audience was part of the initial testing handled by MPC. “We need them to be able to throw punches in some cases that are faster than the speed of sound,” states John DesJardin. “What we did was to keep the action on the edge of being not perceived but it would still be there. We layered in glows on the leading surfaces of the fist and arm. We put in some Mach cones to give you a visual cue that, ‘This fist must be going super fast as I can see that condensation right there"

Play the fighting scenes at x0.25 speed, and you will notice that sort of pressure wave around the Kryptonians fists when they take shots at one another, that's what is known as a mach cone and it only appears after the sound barrier has been broken, a blatant indication of FTS combat speed. For example, here is Superman swinging at Namek (it should be noted that the gif is in slow mo):

Just play the rest of the scenes at x0.25 speed...
Just play the rest of the scenes at x0.25 speed...

He and Zod were throwing FTS punches at each other, the whole fight happened at that speed, like I said above, it was just slowed down so we could perceive their movements. Now, with that being said, I can now quote my post that I talked 'bout earlier in regards to Superman's overall speed:

"To be fair, he can still dodge, kick and deliver punches while traveling at hypersonic speed as we've witnessed during the Black Zero event (that's what the Mos art book called the MoS invasion), in his epic mano y mano with Zod:

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You can see him making casual 90 degree turns while pursuing Zod without bumping into a single skyscraper, as well as trading blows with the guy at that speed.

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Notice how Zod punches Superman hard enough to send him flying at supersonic speeds, and still manage to accelerate forward fast enough to effortlessly catch Clark's body before he could travel more than 5-10 meters. This means his operational speed is easily at supersonic+ level given the ease at which he caught Superman.

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And then shortly afterwards he decided to take the fight into space^ (this didn't happen in a one-shot, there was a blatant time-cut in between, but still a high-end triple digit mach speed feat, on par with his first flight scene y'know when he traveled all around the planet in a matter of minutes, if not seconds).

Likewise, he managed a similar feat in the tie ins wherein he easily evades and dances around multiple energy blasts using his flight speed and then blitzes the attackers.

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General Mills Presents Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice #1

And that^ is just the tip of the iceberg, he still has far better feats f.e during the DoJ events, he rescued Lois via pinpointing her exact location while she was still falling off the Lex building, and does the same thing with Doomsday and then blitzes his ass into oblivion despite being several thousand miles above the Earth's surface, he accomplished this feat under less than a minute, which is a low end triple digit mach speedblitz.

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And prior to that he easily reacted to and punched Doomsday much faster than the ICBM that was like 20-50 meters behind them and at that point the missile would've already reached its top speed (6-7 km/s or mach 20 - source), yet Clark punched Doomsday a couple of extra thousand meters farther into space and then paused and turned around to get a good look at the missile (he perceived it) and then proceeded to chase after Doomsday, meaning he had to move his whole body and extend his arms to punch Doomsday much faster than mach 20, and Doomsday was sent flying at much greater speeds than the punch itself and Superman still caught up with him later. This is one of his most underappreciated pre-JL speed feats.

And btw Clark wasn't at full Strength
And btw Clark wasn't at full Strength

However, the take away from all this is that he can still deliver blows while blitzing his opponents at MHS speed. Moreover, the official BvS guidebooks explicitly stated that his reaction speed = his travel speed or else he wouldn't be able to avoid anything in his path, let alone casually make 90 degree turns or fight someone at those speeds. All in all, whether or not you think his reflexes/reaction speed is equivalent to his flight speed doesn't really hold any water especially given his consistent use of travel speed in combat.

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Truth is, Superman has always been that fast, and Justice League basically highlighted it."

Side note: Yeah, sorry about the whole Filmora thingy, I can't remove their watermark from my gifs unless I buy the damn product which I'm not going to do.

With all of the above having been said, not only is Superman ridiculously faster and more durable than Thanos, but also has the damage output necessary to put someone of Thanos's caliber into deep sleep, he's gonna be put on blast after the first blitz and what comes thereafter is... let's just say it won't end well for Thanos. I'm not seeing how Thanos is winning this without the gauntlet or the speed equalized option unless Superman somehow trips over something or loses consciousness mid-blitzing and bumps into that blade with his head first at hypersonic speed, he ain't losing this fight.

Yeah Superman decapitates Thanos with his own sword before he moves a finger.

Still amazes me how some people still think Thanos wins, when in reality he can't even percieve him.

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#49 Posted by deactivated-5d731ee5de2e9 (8670 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos gets the same treatment as steppenwolf, probably worse since Clark hits a lot harder than tony

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#50 Posted by HDoom16 (215 posts) - - Show Bio