DCEU Superman vs Fox Dark Phoenix

@del_torro: thanos did destroy

A moon .

I'm talking about Ronan. He didn't planet or moon bust with the power stone, does that mean that he is incapable of doing so, despite the stone having the power to do it.

People are actually replying to Stalin's joke arguments - Lol

Aren't all of your CaV's pretty much just that tho

@diarrhearegatta: Big oof

Diarrhea's wildin' rn

It's not like Superman's speed or use of it was ever that impressive or noteworthy in the first place. But even if we go there, no amount of wank and fanboy hype will prove he can blitz someone who can react to Quicksilver (if indeed she has).

Well for starters, we are referencing two different mediums. Lets be completely clear here. FOX Dark Phoenix Jean never busted a planet, nor did she have any feats even remotely close to this.

Ok. So first of all, White Crown is by far the highest showing incarnation of the phoenix force. Its important to note here that White Crown is NOT A HOST of the Phoenix Force. It is a literal manifestation of it, becoming one with the Phoenix Force.

The very existence of White Crown Phoenix proves that all versions of hosts are weaker. By its very definition, its is the pinnacle of the Phoenix Force, and thus, anytime we reference Dark, Green, Regular, etc, its all much weaker.

So yes, a hosted PF is always weaker then the entity itself. Unless you have universal TP feats for any of the hosts?

Mic. Drop.

Superman blitzes and one shots.

Dark Phoenix stomps

@sirpounce: Superman isn’t fast enough enough

Needs to be locked. Movie isnt out yet (For some places) and Phoenix most likely shit stomps anyways

@jefferydeducke: He is.

@sirpounce: Jean reacted to quicksilver who would statue Superman. Stop reaching about his speed, Superman is nothing to fox quicksilver

@jefferydeducke: Quicksilver would not statue Superman lmao. Superman is faster than him. Jean gets blitzed and one shotted since her best reaction feat has been equaled by someone he's already blitzed, and she's not tanking a single punch.

@sirpounce: so u think that Superman can replicate the mansion explosion scene ?

In addition, you’re ignoring her shields that can halt a speed train and the fact she control on a molecular level and the Phoenix force was shown to planet bust? Ok says a lot about your bias

@sirpounce: Supes is mid to high single digit mach in combat speed by logic, low mach speeds by feats... Quick Silver is four to five digit mach in combat speed...

Jean also blocked lightning, which is three digit mach, in case you questioned the consistency of Jean's speed.

@jefferydeducke: He's faster than him, so yeah. That's not nearly impressive enough to argue she can tank a blitz from Superman who can overpower a World Engine while weakened and bust it. Jean gets blitzed and one shotted, not bias just logic bud.

@kingfrieza: Wonder Woman can block lightning too and Superman blitzed her. Jean gets blitzed.

@sirpounce: so you’re saying Wonder Woman is a lightning timer?

@jefferydeducke: Well, she blocked lightning. Does that make someone a lightning timer? You tell me.

Statues can’t fight back

(Jean Statues Clark)

Quicksilver moved in slow motion to her.

@emmafrostxmen: Lol, no.

Pheonix, no doubt.

Ill give my vote to jean even though the movie isn't out yet she demolished apocalypse who was no joke I mean magneto in that movie was doing things supes hasnt done yet and none could touch apocalypse then jean spreads her wings and bam he was done fox makes op villains

@sirpounce: and you’re saying that stepphenwolf is also lightning speed and Superman is ftl in combat speed?

@jefferydeducke: I'm not saying that, not sure how you got to that wild conclusion. Is the only argument you have an argument through absurdity, or is there some form of actual logic in any of your posts? Genuine question.

Faster than lightning Superman blitzes and one shots the Phoenix Force outta Jean then snaps her neck in front of Mystique and Joe Jonas.

@sirpounce: what I’m trying to understand is how you think dceu superman is faster than fox quicksilver when any calc would say qs is faster . It’s plain idiotic and ignorant as people keep trying to tell you . In fact, go ahead and make a poll and you’ll see qs is faster

@jefferydeducke: Actually the calcs would show Superman is faster since he's relativistic and Quicksilver is massively hypersonic. A poll wouldn't prove anything lol, not sure what your point is there. Superman also wouldn't have the hindrance of having to jump off debris since he can fly.

I think superman can survive just long enough to reach jean but that's about it. There's nothing he can do to really harm her let alone kill her and if jean decides to crank it up, superman is screwed

@jefferydeducke: hes a troll i know dw

also smh superman being faster than quicksilver

Phoenix, But VS Battle's wiki Superman wins

@sirpounce: Lollllll Superman Wank

Quicksilver >>>>>>> Superman

Jean Reacted to Quicksilver

Jean > Superman

It very simple logic

@emmafrostxmen: It is "simple" logic alright, doesn't make it right. Superman is faster than him anyways and can fly.

Movie isn’t out yet and Phoenix stomps

@sirpounce: Lmaoooo you just said “Superman is faster than Quicksilver”, this argument is over because your obviously trolling

Jean stomps

+1

@soratoumiga: the irony in that xD

@emmafrostxmen: Relativistic>Massively hypersonic. The argument is over, Jean gets blitzed gg.

@sirpounce: Are we talking abt third act jean or post-third act jean? cos post-third act jean basically exists as the phoenix force itself

@sirpounce: LOLLLL Quicksilver is faster than Superman. Quicksilver was viewing an explosion as if it wasn’t moving lmao, and Superman kept up with featless Flash, and statued Wonder Woman who is only about as fast as a bullet

@emmafrostxmen: Just because you keep saying it doesn’t make it true bud, Flash is faster than him too and Superman can blitz Wonder Woman who can react to lightning which is Jeans best feat.

@sirpounce: Flash has no feats now your really trolling

@sirpounce: Also lightning was moving faster than Superman in Justice League, And Jean reacted to lightning as you said. Jean Stomps

@emmafrostxmen: Flash has no feats really? Pretty sure he does. He can statue falling debris and make it look slower than in Quicksilvers perspective for one. Lightning from the speed force? Already explained to someone else how that’s not natural lightning and doesn’t behave as such. Superman blitzed someone who can react to lightning and has more and better speed feats than Jean. Superman would blitz and one shot her since we know she’s a glass cannon.

Says Superman is faster than quicksilver but he couldn’t save anyone in an open room from the wheelchair explosion even after looking at the wheelchair right before it exploded.

While quicksilver who arrived after the explosion went off had time to save 99% of everyone while running though a mansion, eating food, and making multiple trips back and forth.

Huge LOL