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#1 Edited by Tony501 (222 posts) - - Show Bio

Team: Wonder Woman, Nam Ek, EG Thor, FOX Thing/Jonny Storm/Juggernaut, Steppenwolf, Base Thanos, Kurse, Ares, EG Captain America, Iron Man and Dr Sivana. Morals OFF, Full Gear Full Knowledge Battle on DCEU Earth.

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#2 Posted by destinyman75 (15150 posts) - - Show Bio

What is This?? Thor, Kurse, Thanos are all folks with a chance to solo or at least be tough fights for. Team wrecks Clark spite thread here Clark needs backup

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#3 Posted by Mad_Jim (2622 posts) - - Show Bio

Sigh.........

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#4 Posted by Richard96 (5825 posts) - - Show Bio

The statues lose.

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#5 Posted by Standardized (1502 posts) - - Show Bio

That's a lot of fodder for clark.

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#6 Posted by EternalDarkFury (2581 posts) - - Show Bio

Wank wank wank

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#8 Posted by Crunch5481 (1365 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder Woman- semi-fast, not fast enough

Nam Ek- semi fast

EG Thor- slow

FOX Thing- slow

Jonny Storm- slow

Juggernaut- slow

Steppenwolf- semi-fast, not fast enough

Base Thanos- slow

Kurse- slow

Ares- slow

EG Captain America- slow

Iron Man- slow

Dr Sivana- semi fast, not fast enough

With full Knowledge, and morals off Superman has a good chance. He was established to be BASICALLY even with the Flash in terms of speed in JL and none of these people are touching the Flash if he doesn't want them to. Therefore, Superman with full knowledge, morals off, fighting to the best of his abilities, will not be touched.

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#10 Posted by cromulor (2460 posts) - - Show Bio

Clark loses.

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#11 Posted by TakenStew22 (2405 posts) - - Show Bio
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#12 Edited by Supermanthor (21441 posts) - - Show Bio

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#13 Posted by BOC (1773 posts) - - Show Bio

A lot of people will be taken out very quickly due to full knowledge, but this is too much for Superman.

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#14 Posted by Lan_Fan (15992 posts) - - Show Bio

@boc said:

A lot of people will be taken out very quickly due to full knowledge, but this is too much for Superman.

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#15 Posted by RandomGuy287 (1507 posts) - - Show Bio
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#16 Posted by newyorkjetsarecool (621 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos=Superman

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#17 Posted by eri123 (1749 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman gets destroyed.

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#18 Posted by KingOfWakanda (2697 posts) - - Show Bio

Wait... are people seriously arguing for Clark?

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#19 Posted by panda_emperorix (3878 posts) - - Show Bio

Alot of people on that team could solo Clark (Mcu)

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#20 Posted by TheSerbianEmpire (1250 posts) - - Show Bio

Ban DCEU threads.

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#21 Posted by death4bunnies (1718 posts) - - Show Bio

Supes gets beat down hard.

Durability is a decent counter for speed, and a lot of these guys can take a few hits.

WW, Jonny storm, Nam Ek, Ares and Dr Sinerva can all react to him, that alone is to much for DCEU Supes.

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#22 Posted by Noone1996 (12072 posts) - - Show Bio

Logically, DCEU Superman is on par with high tier live action characters but people treat him like he's faster than 616 Quicksilver and stronger than 616 Hulk. The idea that he just casually "statues" or solos people in his same tier is absurd.

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#23 Posted by Parker_Industries (196 posts) - - Show Bio

Spite. Thats a shit ton of people on the team

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#24 Posted by Red_Ruby_Petal (8260 posts) - - Show Bio

@noone1996:

Logically, DCEU Superman is on par with high tier live action characters but people treat him like he's faster than 616 Quicksilver and stronger than 616 Hulk. The idea that he just casually "statues" or solos people in his same tier is absurd.

I don't often see people claim to that extent, I also find it understandable that people can think he is a tier above these live action characters, considering in nearly all areas, most especially speed and durability, he is practically a tier above.

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#25 Posted by King-Ragnar (4426 posts) - - Show Bio

Why make a compelling and coherent argument when you can stay Statue.

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#26 Posted by TheVVitchKing (1038 posts) - - Show Bio

Team wins wayyy to much durability and decent enough speed

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#27 Edited by Aka_aka_aka_ak (3211 posts) - - Show Bio

Sorry but no number of mannequins can kill a human. You could have 100x this team and they still lose. If they could land hits then the team would stomp, but 1000 missed punches do no damage.

@kingofwakanda explain to me how a human could get beat up by 10 mannequins. This is morals off, so Superman has no reason not to use his speed. So tell me how you could get hurt by punches that can never land.

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#28 Edited by Richubs (5760 posts) - - Show Bio

Throwing in Nam-Ek makes the difference.

He alone would be a good fight for him.

While Clark and he are battling and fighting others can also attack because Nam himself would be too much.

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#29 Posted by Aka_aka_aka_ak (3211 posts) - - Show Bio

@cromulor: @takenstew22: @panda_emperorix: @death4bunnies: @parker_industries: @thevvitchking: @richubs:

You're all idiots.

Clark is about mach 50, the fastest on the team is Nam-ek, who's maybe mach 1-5. They're all mannequins, that's objective fact. So tell me how a human can lose to 10 mannequins in a fight? Could they overpower him if speed were equalised?- obviously. As it is can they ever hope to land a punch?- No way.

Rather than all just say "team wins" without justification why don't some of you try and explain to me how 1000 missed punches will do anything? Explain to me how a human being could ever lose to a fight against 10 mannequins.

Either:

  • I'm wrong about how massive the speed difference is. In which case tell me which member of the team is anywhere close.
  • or I'm I'm wrong about hoe much of an advantage that is. In which case explain to me how anyone could lose in a fight to someone who can't hit them.
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#30 Edited by Richubs (5760 posts) - - Show Bio

@aka_aka_aka_ak:

I gave you my justification.

I am one of those who don't think Clark got amped by the motherbox.

Which is why I think Nam-Ek is a good fight alone.

And I gave my reasons. I don't think anyone else here is really tagging Clark. Some of these cannot even hurt him.

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#31 Posted by Aka_aka_aka_ak (3211 posts) - - Show Bio

@richubs said:

@aka_aka_aka_ak:

I have you my justification.

I am one of those wh odont think Clark got amped by the motherbox.

Which is why I think Nam-Ek is a good fight alone.

And I gave my reasons. I don't think anyone else here is really tagging Clark. Some of these cannot even hurt him.

ok well thanks for actually giving a reason. That's fair enough

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#32 Posted by Mr_Shazam0920 (5227 posts) - - Show Bio

Lmao. I knew people would still argue for Clark.

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#33 Posted by KingOfWakanda (2697 posts) - - Show Bio
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That's Pre JL amp yada yada, but still. Statue is stretching things to hyperbolic proportions.

We get it, Clark is fast. He's still not making a "statue" of Nam-Ek, WW or Sivana. Those 3 should have enough speed and durability to keep Clark busy why the others get hits in. Durability is another great counter for speed and this group has it in spades.

He gets stomped into oblivion by this group.

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#34 Posted by death4bunnies (1718 posts) - - Show Bio

@aka_aka_aka_ak:

WW, Nam Ek, Ares, and Dr Sivana, can all react to DCEU Superman.

Wonder Woman alone has fought a Kryptonian deformity and was keeping pace. She has reacted to and survived heatvision, and 'mach cone' punches.

Ares can be reasonably scaled to Diana.

Nam Ek has fought Clark and reacted to him.

Dr Sivana can keep pace with DCEU Shazam.

Here Dr Sivana is chasing Shazam and Shazam dam near outpaces lightning.

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Idiot that sucka.

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#35 Posted by Lord_Titan_ (2794 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor solos

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#36 Posted by panda_emperorix (3878 posts) - - Show Bio
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#38 Edited by TakenStew22 (2405 posts) - - Show Bio

DCEU Superman is astoundingly more wanked than his comic counterpart.

"YoU'rE aLl IdIoTs."

Yeah, because we don't think he's gonna statue them all at once and eventually get tagged and dogpiled. Get used to it, DCEU Superman isn't invincible and untouchable.

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#39 Edited by TheVVitchKing (1038 posts) - - Show Bio

Someone should give Superman the most wanked award or something

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#40 Posted by XLR87T3 (10201 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman already statued Wonder Woman, it's literally in the movie, why is this being argued?

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#41 Posted by nfactor1995 (12990 posts) - - Show Bio

*JL clearly establishes Superman’s ability to functionally statue people on Wonder Woman’s level of speed*

*Wonder Woman is the fastest combatant here besides possibly Nam-Ek depending on how you feel like arguing*

*People still try and argue that Superman can’t just statue everyone here like he’s already been shown to be capable of doing*

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#44 Posted by BOC (1773 posts) - - Show Bio

Supes gets beat down hard.

Durability is a decent counter for speed, and a lot of these guys can take a few hits.

WW, Jonny storm, Nam Ek, Ares and Dr Sinerva can all react to him, that alone is to much for DCEU Supes.

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#45 Edited by Menkanahomi (28 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos solo.

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#46 Posted by ThEBeStOfTheBeST (12144 posts) - - Show Bio

*JL clearly establishes Superman’s ability to functionally statue people on Wonder Woman’s level of speed*

*Wonder Woman is the fastest combatant here besides possibly Nam-Ek depending on how you feel like arguing*

*People still try and argue that Superman can’t just statue everyone here like he’s already been shown to be capable of doing*

QFT.

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#47 Posted by Supermanthor (21441 posts) - - Show Bio

@nfactor1995 said:

*JL clearly establishes Superman’s ability to functionally statue people on Wonder Woman’s level of speed*

*Wonder Woman is the fastest combatant here besides possibly Nam-Ek depending on how you feel like arguing*

*People still try and argue that Superman can’t just statue everyone here like he’s already been shown to be capable of doing*

QFT.

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#48 Edited by ThEBeStOfTheBeST (12144 posts) - - Show Bio

@mr_shazam0920 said:

Lmao. I knew people would still argue for Clark.

Honestly, I can make a case for a sane & bloodlusted Superman winning considering he's always inclined to speedblitz first and talk later even whilst morals on. I can see him one-shotting the majority of this team especially with prior knowledge, that means he knows what they are capable of, which also means he's not going to hold back given the OP rules (bloodlusted n'all).

  • Wonder Woman - fodder. She has already been statued by Superman... and people still think she can keep up with him, lmao.
  • Nam Ek - can't tag Superman, and is getting ragdolled. And its kinda ironic how people are using Early MOS Superman (Pre-Metropolis fight) to justify Namek keeping up with Post JL Supes, the same people who argued we shouldn't scale Namek to Post-MOS Superman, lol.
  • EG Thor - is sent to Valhalla.
  • FOX Thing - fodder.
  • Johnny Storm/Juggernaut - fodder.
  • Steppenwolf - fodder.
  • Base Thanos - can't touch Superman, and he's getting dogpiled.
  • Kurse - same as above.
  • Ares - fodder.
  • EG Captain America - fodder.
  • Iron Man and Dr Sivana - fodder.

And half of these guys can't fly. Superman can simply pick them apart one by one since none of them can perceive him. And the ones that can fly are either 1) outclassed travel speed wise, 2) outclassed physically.

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#50 Edited by Mr_Shazam0920 (5227 posts) - - Show Bio

@thebestofthebest:

You really think that in a movie they would have Superman taking down a team like this? Realistically?

I understand your points, but still.

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