DCEU Superman and Wonder Woman vs MCU Thor and DCEU Zod
@darkthunder: how does Supes not beat Zod? Especially with years more experience and a massive speed boost
@darkthunder: how does Supes not beat Zod? Especially with years more experience and a massive speed boost
Supes beats Zod in a second, he goes straight up for the neck this time.
While they're close in striking and durability, JL Supes should be above Zod.
JL Superman and Diana >> Zod
Thor is roughly equal to Kal and can beat Diana in a 1v1. But loses this 2v1. Zod is a weaklink here.
@chaoselement: zod was literally allowing superman to kill him
@chaoselement: zod was literally allowing superman to kill him
with JL feats he is a bit faster so he can go for the neck.
Nothing changes because Thor still solos.
@kryptonianking88: zod is much more experienced fighter and I guess the mos crew had said that they bothe were fighting at a speed to slo-mo humans so I don't see much of a speed gap
@chaoselement: I don't see much of a speed gap
The mos crew said that he and the Mary Sue were fighting with statueforce
@darkthunder: but Superman beat him in the film
And MOS Superman is equal to BvS Superman/Wonder Woman, while JL Superman could blitz Wonder Woman
thor is fodder, general rule of thumb DC>marvel mostly because of the fact that superman and characters who scale to him are known for going fast and most marvel characters aren't (at least not in the comics) so they probably get blitzed, that and the general limitations of cinema, which is also why superman is also weaker then he is in the comics (that and there are just less of them so there is less power creep/just being around longer to do more).
I would say that zod wins against WW but it isn't as big of a stomp so its basically a 2v1, and this isn't even relevant since WW can probably take on thor and superman already won against zod on camra (and has better feats)
@chaoselement: I don't see much of a speed gap
The mos crew said that he and the Mary Sue were fighting with statueforce
Thor solos still.
@kryptonianking88: no he didn't
Zod let him he could have easily come out of the lock if he wanted. He had lost his people so he had no purpose and could not live without it
Bvs superman is also>ww
Superman solos, Thor is quite literally fodder to Superman not because of power but speed, add that we saw how easily it was for Thanos to swat Stormbreaker away he gets annihilated, if he fights in character Diana makes short work of him 2.
Zod was never Superman’s equal that fight was A high diff fight but it was basically a bloodlusted Zod vs Serious Clark and he still won make Clark bloodlusted and zod gets his neck snapped in seconds.
Superman solos, Thor is quite literally fodder to Superman not because of power but speed, add that we saw how easily it was for Thanos to swat Stormbreaker away he gets annihilated, if he fights in character Diana makes short work of him 2.
Zod was never Superman’s equal that fight was A high diff fight but it was basically a bloodlusted Zod vs Serious Clark and he still won make Clark bloodlusted and zod gets his neck snapped in seconds.
Thor's reaction speed >>>>> Superman's bullet speed "statue force"
Thor hits harder, he is stronger and more durable. He wins handily. His lightning counter Clark's inconsistent raw speed advantage.
@chaoselement: stop posting that nonsense like it’s cannon in the movie no bullets where even shot and Diana is fast enough to slow mo bullets let alone Clark and Barry.
Thor hasn’t done anything good without mjolnir striking wise. His blunt force durability is pissy a boulder > literally made him bloody faced and half conscious.
Lightning cloak is only good fodder dead soldiers his lightning never did anything relevant supes bullrush right through it. Not like Thor is reacting anyways also you trying to say bullet speed like bullets wouldn’t statue Thor lol
@chaoselement: stop posting that nonsense like it’s cannon in the movie no bullets where even shot and Diana is fast enough to slow mo bullets let alone Clark and Barry.
Thor hasn’t done anything good without mjolnir striking wise. His blunt force durability is pissy a boulder > literally made him bloody faced and half conscious.
Lightning cloak is only good fodder dead soldiers his lightning never did anything relevant supes bullrush right through it. Not like Thor is reacting anyways also you trying to say bullet speed like bullets wouldn’t statue Thor lol
Lightning cloak busted re entry metals and is far hotter than HV who made Superman screaming in pain.
Thor still beats him in a good fight.
@chaoselement: stop posting that nonsense like it’s cannon in the movie no bullets where even shot and Diana is fast enough to slow mo bullets let alone Clark and Barry.
Thor hasn’t done anything good without mjolnir striking wise. His blunt force durability is pissy a boulder > literally made him bloody faced and half conscious.
Lightning cloak is only good fodder dead soldiers his lightning never did anything relevant supes bullrush right through it. Not like Thor is reacting anyways also you trying to say bullet speed like bullets wouldn’t statue Thor lol
Lightning cloak busted re entry metals and is far hotter than HV who made Superman screaming in pain.
Thor still beats him in a good fight.
SUPERMAN wins for these reasons:
1. SPEED: You still have nothing in speed. Thor is constantly tagged by people that aren't even bullet speed, yet we have clark and barry who went so fast diana couldn't perceive them(and she can react to bullets and block them). Clark is faster than even Steppenwolf's reaction timing( he caught a missle fired straight at him in his hands but couldn't react to superman). Thor doesn't move faster than a missle while in combat and doesn't fight people going that fast either. Superman bullied Steppenwolf with a smile on his face. JL superman is definitely faster than thor.
2. Durability: Clark while weakened took a nuke. Clark isn't weakened in this situation. Thor has been put down by far less, even a boulder. In man of steel superman destroyed the top of a mountain without trying and was fine yet thor was hurt by a boulder.
3. Thor's lightning vs Superman: The lightning thor has can't put superman down because superman has withstood things stronger than his lightning in the past like the world engine gravity and nukes even while weakened. Even the lightning he hit hella with in ragnorak barely did anything to the buildings around it.
I can post more but I want to see how you respond to this first. Thor can't beat superman mainly due to speed and thor's lack of blunt force durability. I don't think his lightning is the problem. But its just those 2 categories he would need to improve on especially speed.
@chaoselement: stop posting that nonsense like it’s cannon in the movie no bullets where even shot and Diana is fast enough to slow mo bullets let alone Clark and Barry.
Thor hasn’t done anything good without mjolnir striking wise. His blunt force durability is pissy a boulder > literally made him bloody faced and half conscious.
Lightning cloak is only good fodder dead soldiers his lightning never did anything relevant supes bullrush right through it. Not like Thor is reacting anyways also you trying to say bullet speed like bullets wouldn’t statue Thor lol
Lightning cloak busted re entry metals and is far hotter than HV who made Superman screaming in pain.
Thor still beats him in a good fight.
SUPERMAN wins for these reasons:
1. SPEED: You still have nothing in speed. Thor is constantly tagged by people that aren't even bullet speed, yet we have clark and barry who went so fast diana couldn't perceive them(and she can react to bullets and block them). Clark is faster than even Steppenwolf's reaction timing( he caught a missle fired straight at him in his hands but couldn't react to superman). Thor doesn't move faster than a missle while in combat and doesn't fight people going that fast either. Superman bullied Steppenwolf with a smile on his face. JL superman is definitely faster than thor.
2. Durability: Clark while weakened took a nuke. Clark isn't weakened in this situation. Thor has been put down by far less, even a boulder. In man of steel superman destroyed the top of a mountain without trying and was fine yet thor was hurt by a boulder.
3. Thor's lightning vs Superman: The lightning thor has can't put superman down because superman has withstood things stronger than his lightning in the past like the world engine gravity and nukes even while weakened. Even the lightning he hit hella with in ragnorak barely did anything to the buildings around it.
I can post more but I want to see how you respond to this first. Thor can't beat superman mainly due to speed and thor's lack of blunt force durability. I don't think his lightning is the problem. But its just those 2 categories he would need to improve on especially speed.
I am sorry but I would avoid this tbh, Thor vs Clark has been debated dozens of times and it's a boring subject atm.
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