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Posted by ComicGirl21 (1087 posts) 7 months, 23 days ago

Poll: DCEU Olympus vs MCU Asgard (89 votes)

DCEU Olympus 34%
MCU Asgard 66%

MCU Asgard and all of it's armies wages war against DCEU Olympus and all of it's armies on a random indestructible planet. Who will win the all out war?

DCEU Olympus:

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Olympus army:

- Zeus

- Ares (Prime)

- Artemis

- Shazam (trailer feats gotta be enough for now)

- Wonder Woman

- 5000 Amazons (standard gear and on horses)

- Aquaman

- 5000 Atlantians (fight takes place on a beach, they start in water)

vs.

MCU Asgard

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- Odin (Gungnir, Thor 1-2 version)

- Frigga

- Thor (Mjolnir)

- Loki (Cascet of Eternal Winters)

- Heimdall

- Valkyrie

- 5000 Asgardian soldiers (standard gear)

- 5000 Asgardian valkyries (on pegasus)

It's 6 champions and 10 000 soldiers vs 6 champions and 10 000 soldiers. Who wins and why?

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#1 Edited by MarvelandDCfan24 (7172 posts) - - Show Bio

To many featless characters mixed with fodder

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#2 Edited by Amcu (16274 posts) - - Show Bio

To much speculation on the Olympian side to know for sure. MCU technically has it by feats.

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#3 Posted by jayc1324 (26421 posts) - - Show Bio

Idk anything about Shazam but the only Olympic 'threats' are WW and I guess Zeus by implication of his power. And they aren't beating Thor, Odin, Loki, Frigga, and Valk. Asgardians are superior to Amazons, Aquaman can be oneshot by Thor, Ares can be fried by lightning quickly... Asgardians definitely take it unless Shazam is super powerful

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#4 Edited by Richubs (3790 posts) - - Show Bio

Too much speculation involved.

Cannot be answered right now

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#5 Posted by miekskywalker (2069 posts) - - Show Bio

Shazam is the only one who can turn the tide but from the trailer his feats are not good. (As they only showed him testing his powers out)

He should be strong enough to fight Thor by the end of his film

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#6 Edited by Thoromdil (1809 posts) - - Show Bio

@amcu said:

To much speculation on the Olympian side to know for sure. MCU technically has it by feats.

Every character on the DCEU list has at least some feats. I think DCEU feats are actually much better too. Zeus for example created several races, including the immortal, superhuman race of amazons. He also created an entire island and forcefield surrounding it for amazons, when he was dying. That's far more hax and reality warping than we've seen from any MCU god, especially Asgardians who just claim to be long living aliens who know a bit of magic, rather then actual gods.

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So by all means Zeus > Odin when it comes to reality warping and other god like powers. Zeus is actually better in dc then Odin as well. Though Odin should have much more feats as he 100 times more screentime, his feats are almost non existent, while Zeus actually has good feats, among others, he beat Steppenwolf, and casually one shot Unified Motherboxes, which is a feat that visibly exhausted both Superman and Cyborg at the same time.

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Zeus beat Odin (better dc, better magic feats)

Ares beats Loki (much better magic and stats)

Wonder Woman beats Thor (much better speed and similar stats)

Artemis beats Frigga (she can one shot an Apocalyptian battleship, while Frigga barely showed any magic at all)

Shazam loses to Heimdall (not enough feats so far... but this one win for MCU won't change the outcome)

Aquaman beats Valkyrie (especially with his new sub feat)

the armies can lose or win depending on many factors, but with so many heavy hitters in DCEU living through their 1v1's they will help overwhelm the all out battle in DCEU's favor as well.

I vote Olympus.

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#7 Posted by Amcu (16274 posts) - - Show Bio

@thoromdil: I don't think his feats are all that combat related. Creating an island is kinda hard to quantify for damage output. Both need more feats IMO.

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#8 Posted by Supermanforever (7889 posts) - - Show Bio

featless characters vs featless characters. Well considering atleast thor has feats they should win.

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#9 Posted by kroczilla (1811 posts) - - Show Bio

the Olympians should have this.

from his brief appearance, Zeus showed feats about even with JL DCEU superman (casually dealt with stephenwolf, stopped the unity with ease).

WW is a powerhouse who is faster than any of the asgardians, at least strong enough to contend with strongest of them , has the gear to one-shot any of them and defend their attacks and has just as much combat experience as any of the asgardians. and that's without her God mode.

Prime ares soloed most of Olympus so it can be assumed that he was a beast.

Aqua man doesn't have much feats but going by his trailer and the fact that he can apparently lift a submarine and breached stephenwolf armor with his trident, I can see him easily clearing any other asgardian other than the absolute top tiers (Odin and Thor)

and I haven't even gotten to Atermis (one-shot an Apokalypse invasion ship), Shaman (based on hype, is around DCEU superman tier), the amazons (they've dealt with an army of flying creatures before and have really good archery feats) , and the atlanteans (based on the trailer, they appear to be quite advanced technology wise).

honestly can't see the Olympians losing this.

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#10 Posted by plotweapon16255 (7505 posts) - - Show Bio

Olympians stomps.

By wan's statement Atlanteans weapons can potentially hurt badly/kill high tier.

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#11 Posted by imsososorry (514 posts) - - Show Bio

The one where the characters have feats

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#12 Posted by TheGerudoKing (1498 posts) - - Show Bio

Easy win for Asgard. Olympus is much weaker in every regard.

Asgard wins decisively.

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#13 Posted by Scarlet_Spyder (125 posts) - - Show Bio

Easy win for Asgard. Olympus is much weaker in every regard.

Asgard wins decisively.

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#14 Posted by Gamer-Guy (3354 posts) - - Show Bio
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#15 Posted by Batman242 (11260 posts) - - Show Bio

Ares for the MVP.

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#16 Posted by xZone (10341 posts) - - Show Bio

5000 asgardian soldiers solo. Pfff 1000 valkyries could solo. 2 of em should be on par with hulk.

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#17 Posted by Thorthunder98 (6613 posts) - - Show Bio

So many featless characters, either way Asgard should win. Asgardians are above Amazonians, and Valkyrie are above normal Asgardian soldiers by statements.

Also Loki with the casket of ancient winters is a major threat he could essentially spam that from the start like Laufey did at the start of Thor

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#18 Posted by kroczilla (1811 posts) - - Show Bio

@xzone: the Valkyrie and asgardians soldiers got whooped by a xter with the ability to summon blades.

Ares has telekinesis which gives him the ability to control and spam weapons of war to his heart content.

Basically, Ares has as much difficulty as Hela did against the Valkyrie and asgardians.

Hint: it wasnt really much.

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#19 Posted by shadyxv (559 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't understand this logic.. people side with Olympus despite it mostly being featless...

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#21 Posted by shadyxv (559 posts) - - Show Bio

@kroczilla: ares hasn't shown feats to control any foreign weapon. Either way if he was so good with it then why didn't he lasso Diana instead? Or used her weapons against her?

Also Asgardians are bullet proof and earthy metals have failed to pierce them which each of valkyrie's weapon can hurt him outright kill him.

Regardless thor can easily solo Amazonian army with an AOE attack and proceed to do the same to alteatian. And personally deal with ares.

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#22 Posted by shadyxv (559 posts) - - Show Bio

@xzone: agree on first lines but 2 of them shall not be above hulk.I disagree on that matter.

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#23 Edited by LeBronto (46 posts) - - Show Bio

Olympians are basically featless besides Arthur, Diana and Ares

Thor clean house

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#24 Posted by kroczilla (1811 posts) - - Show Bio

@shadyxv: ares is a telekinetic. He doesn't just control weapons. He used it to stop diana's movements and even straight up ripped a large chunk of earth off the group. Nothing suggests asgardian weaponry is immune to telekinesis.

Asgardians are bullet timers? Since when? If anything, bullets have been shown to tag them just fine (even Loki and did get tagged by bullets and they are high level asgardians). Not to mention, ares would be using their own weapons against them which has shown to be pretty effective at killing them.

Thor "could" summon a large bolt of lightning but I doubt Ww would give him any chance to do so. Not to mention it would only clear fodders who aren't a factor here TBH.

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#25 Posted by plotweapon16255 (7505 posts) - - Show Bio

@shadyxv said:

@plotweapon16255: how does Olympus stomp? Care to explain?

Zeus > Odin & Frigga

Ares (Prime) > Loki

Wonder Woman > Thor (Mjolnir)

Aquaman, Artemis & Shazam > Heimdall & Valkyrie

Amazons & Atlantians > Asgardian soldiers & valkyries

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#26 Posted by shadyxv (559 posts) - - Show Bio

@kroczilla: he didn't stop her. He was able to control her weapons and gear which are magically enchanted and so are weapons of Asgardians.

I said bullet proof -_- read it again.

Why wouldn't he call it? He has mjolnir here and there is nothing to suggest he won't create a large storm like he did in thor 1 and suck everyone up in it including diana...also keep in mind only his weapons has changed from stormbreaker to mjolnir he still has his lighting cloak and ridiculous durability and his striking are above diana and he has reacted to mach plus attacks in thor the dark world.

Not only would it clear foddlers but also zeus, atermis and shazam who all have zero durability feats to suggest they can tank aoe that

1. Broke that huge iceberg

2. Shattered whole ground in thor 2.

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#27 Edited by Gazool (1229 posts) - - Show Bio

So many featless characters, either way Asgard should win. Asgardians are above Amazonians, and Valkyrie are above normal Asgardian soldiers by statements.

Also Loki with the casket of ancient winters is a major threat he could essentially spam that from the start like Laufey did at the start of Thor

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#28 Posted by shadyxv (559 posts) - - Show Bio

@plotweapon16255:

How is wonder woman above thor? He still has his durability feats from IW and lighting cloak from Ragnarok along with reaction speed from dark world.

How are those three above hemidall and valkyrie lol two of them are featless while valkyrie can one shot them all. She has better durability and striking than all three of them.

Lol last one made me laugh.. so thousand peak humans and superhuman vs thousands superhumans along with bulletproof skin and better strength and add more thousands of superhumans with better striking, durability and op weapon.

You seems too biased.

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#29 Edited by plotweapon16255 (7505 posts) - - Show Bio

@shadyxv said:

@plotweapon16255:

How is wonder woman above thor?

Coz of speed & gear.

He still has his durability feats from IW

But lacks piercing durability to say he has a chance.

and lighting cloak from Ragnarok

She no sell to lightning.

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along with reaction speed from dark world.

Lol, she way faster then bullets.

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How are those three above hemidall and valkyrie lol

Coz of Aquaman & Artemis.

two of them are featless while valkyrie can one shot them all.

She isn't arrow proof or electricity proof (scaling) to have a chance.

She has better durability and striking than all three of them.

Both has ranged advantage then her which can one shot her.

Lol last one made me laugh.. so thousand peak humans and superhuman vs thousands superhumans along with bulletproof skin

Even Thor isn't bullet proof genius! There's nothing suggesting they are bulletproof!

and better strength and add more thousands of superhumans with better striking, durability and op weapon.

Wan clearly explained Atlanteans are no sell to million pounds of pressure of water coz of their physiological adaptation & they need Atlanteans weapons to hurt them.

Amazons have ranged advantage who can casually shoot an arrow with enough force to carry motherbox over a long distance!

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Asgardians & valkyries doesn't have weapons to hurt Atlanteans or reaction feat to escape Amazons ranged attack.

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#30 Posted by ProteusXManRxis (4444 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor solos.

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#31 Posted by kroczilla (1811 posts) - - Show Bio

@shadyxv: bruh, re-watch the fight scene. He stopped her, pinned her to the ground then ripped the earth beneath her in an attempt to crush her. All with telekinesis.

it doesn't matter if the asgardians are "bullet proof". Ares is gonna be using their weapons against them anyway.

He wouldn't be able to because Diana would be literally all over him. She is significantly faster, just as strong and has the gear to one-shot him with a good hit. Thor cant summon huge aoe attacks nigh instantly. He typically needs time to charge up the attack. Diana isn't going to give him that luxury.

Zeus was at least on par with stephenwolf who would No-sell Thor's aoe attacks. Also Zeus feat of single-handedly stopping the unity far outclasses any of thor's lightning feats. Atermis doesn't really have feats of durability but I doubt that she is going to just there and let Thor charge up a huge attack without putting a few arrows in him (one of her arrows one-shot an Apokalypse invasion ship). Shazam has been hyped to be a superman tier character. I doubt he gets one-shot by Thor.

Not to mention, Thor would first have to deal with Diana who has dealt with large aoe attacks on a much greater scale (Doomsday's energy releases).

Breaking an iceberg and shattering the ground isnt even MOS superman. Not very impressive TBH.

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#32 Posted by foxerdes (9966 posts) - - Show Bio

Team Olymp. Their fodders are inferior but prime Ares is too much to handle when you add the likes of Diana and Aquaman. Zeus and Artemis are an amazing range support.

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#33 Posted by Thoromdil (1809 posts) - - Show Bio

@foxerdes: I wouldnt say Artemis and Zeus are just support. Zeus with his reality warping feats can easily create a moutain hovering in the air above Asgard's army and just drop it on their heads, living nobody but MAYBE Odin and Thor alive. His lightning is powerful enough to one shot unity, one shot Steppenwolf and one shot prime Ares, which means that he can also one shot just about any MCU character in Asgard team. Same goes for Artemis who can shoot down an Apocalyptian battleship with a single arrow. Then there's Wonder Woman and Aquaman who are both able to pick up a fight with Thor and Prime Ares himself, who slaughtered entire Olympus before by himself.

This is a massacre. Olympus will wreck Asgard.

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#34 Posted by Lord_Titan_ (2562 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor solos.

Lol no he does not solo, ares with TK would give thor a tough fight, it took zeus to defeat him in his prime, and i believe the ares diana fought wasn't in his prime since he only reaches his prime once a major war begins

Zeus one shotted the 3 motherboxes, thats actually more impressive than anything superman has done in the film, it took sups and cyborg a full minute to seperate the motherboxes, whereas zeus just used one lightning bolt

Odin is featless, so he pretty much dies first (although prime odin could possibly solo)

Thor beats wonder woman

Zeus defeats thor

Frigga and loki pretty much go down early

This seems to be spite in team one's favour, considering the amount of heavy hitters on that team

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#35 Posted by Thoromdil (1809 posts) - - Show Bio

@lord_titan_: how would Thor beat WW? She staggered bloodlusted, reborn Superman with a headbutt, ragdolled Doomsday with shield bash and stopped Doomsday's punch mid air which clearly gives her MUCH better strength feats then Thor ever had. Her weapon can one shot Thor as its shatp enough to cut right through Doomsday's arm. She can no sell Thor's lightning since she has bracelets of Zeus that can absorb, deflect and even store lightning. Snd then there is MASSIVE speed advantage in WW's corner. She is much faster then even MCU quicksilver (compare their bullet timing feats) to whom Thor was a statue hanging in mid air.

There is no way mjolnir Thor beats WW. Not a chance. Chris actually admitted that himself when Gal asked him.

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#36 Edited by Lord_Titan_ (2562 posts) - - Show Bio

@thoromdil said:

@lord_titan_: how would Thor beat WW? She staggered bloodlusted, reborn Superman with a headbutt, ragdolled Doomsday with shield bash and stopped Doomsday's punch mid air which clearly gives her MUCH better strength feats then Thor ever had. Her weapon can one shot Thor as its shatp enough to cut right through Doomsday's arm. She can no sell Thor's lightning since she has bracelets of Zeus that can absorb, deflect and even store lightning. Snd then there is MASSIVE speed advantage in WW's corner. She is much faster then even MCU quicksilver (compare their bullet timing feats) to whom Thor was a statue hanging in mid air.

There is no way mjolnir Thor beats WW. Not a chance. Chris actually admitted that himself when Gal asked him.

If this is thor post ragnarok he obviously stomps, but any version of thor before age of ultron would still be tough for diana to put down considering mjolnir can easily tag her, its just a matter of who goes down first

Also since when did an actors word surpass a writer?

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#37 Posted by xZone (10341 posts) - - Show Bio

@kroczilla: No. Ares has never shown the ability to use that many blades.

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#38 Posted by Amonfire1776 (2923 posts) - - Show Bio

If Ares soloed most of olympus it cannot be that great...barely beating Steppenwolf also is not impressive... Asgard conquered 10 realms...enough said...

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#39 Posted by Thoromdil (1809 posts) - - Show Bio

@amonfire1776: Prime Ares killimg old gods is a good feat for Ares, not a bad feat for Olympains. Zeus can one shot unity which took Supermans and Cyborgs full power to accomplish and Artemis took out an apocalyptian battleship with one arrow. These gods are very powerful and have crazy feats. Prime Ares beating them only means that he was even more powerful, which is scary. Asgard conquered 9 realms because they had Hela for all we know and she is not here so Asgard will get stomped.

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#40 Posted by Nucleon (2888 posts) - - Show Bio

@thoromdil: First, Asgardians are officially back to being actual gods since Ragnarok.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2AE3J0BB2o

The army that made Steppenwolf go away is, at a few detail close, the one that's featured in the OP. That's hardly impressive, given that a lone Superman rag dolled him around as if he was a load of dirty laundry. A lone Superman isn't laying waste to Asgard in any way - he would stop at Thor.

DC gods are hardly impressive. IMO, they are immensely powerful as long as this power isn't of any use in combat. They're but worfs for whom DC has no respect whatsoever.

MCU team 8/10

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#41 Posted by Thoromdil (1809 posts) - - Show Bio

@lord_titan_: mjolnir was barely moving for Quicksilver and WW us faster then him so Thor is never tagging WW. Also I already proved above she is also much stronger then Thor, has better dc and can no sell his lightning with bracelets of Zeus. WW stomps Thor.

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#42 Posted by plotweapon16255 (7505 posts) - - Show Bio

@xzone said:

@kroczilla: No. Ares has never shown the ability to use that many blades.

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#43 Posted by the_wspanialy (3915 posts) - - Show Bio

@foxerdes said:

Team Olymp. Their fodders are inferior but prime Ares is too much to handle when you add the likes of Diana and Aquaman. Zeus and Artemis are an amazing range support.

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#44 Edited by shadyxv (559 posts) - - Show Bio

@plotweapon16255:

Being faster doesn't make her better and now i doubt she can cut him. He does have one feat from AOU.

Also i request you to watch TDW again, he reacted to supersonic attacks there. And she has nothing to prove she can absorb or redirect lighting from thor (mcu).

Valkyrie is arrow proof lol, in AOS S3 a Asgardian mook bends a knife with his bare hands and similar sif tanked shotgun blast to hand and thigh. Keep in mind that val was jumping from spaceships to spaceship and punching through their hulls and easily destorying them with barehands. That's soeed, agility plus striking feat for her.

They have weapons which can cut through kursed ones. Does atleantins have any proof that they can no sells weapons which are able to cleave through superhumans and are energy based on top of that and they don't need to avoid Amazonians they can no sell all of theirs attacks.

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#45 Posted by Lan_Fan (12691 posts) - - Show Bio

MCU Asgard for the win.

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#46 Posted by kroczilla (1811 posts) - - Show Bio

@xzone: he doesn't need to TBH. a couple dozen blades being telekinetically controlled would be more than enough. Not to mention he has back up from the amazons and atlanteans.

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#47 Posted by kroczilla (1811 posts) - - Show Bio

@nucleon: a lone superman post JL would blitz stomp his way through Asgard. Dude made Diana seem like a statue and not to mention, even standing still, Diana, Arthur and cyborg COMBINED couldn't make him bugde an inch.

That not even mentioning his heat vision or his ice breath which via feats is basically the casket of eternal winters on steroids.

The degree to which supes steamrolls this asgardian team depends on how bloodlusted he is TBH. They won't even see him coming.

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#48 Posted by Lord_Titan_ (2562 posts) - - Show Bio

@lord_titan_: mjolnir was barely moving for Quicksilver and WW us faster then him so Thor is never tagging WW. Also I already proved above she is also much stronger then Thor, has better dc and can no sell his lightning with bracelets of Zeus. WW stomps Thor.

Quicksilver is a bullet timer, so whats your point? Thor does not need to tag her in h2h when he has mjolnir, which has feats such as being able to cross a town in less than a few seconds, that combined with aoe would still give diana trouble, and she has no counter for mjolnir, even though she has a counter with her bracelets

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#49 Posted by TheGerudoKing (1498 posts) - - Show Bio

How come Shazam and Aquaman are apart of team Olympus, but Hela, Fenris and Skurge aren't apart of Asgard? Seems the teams were made to stack the favor in DCEU's favor.

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#50 Posted by shadyxv (559 posts) - - Show Bio

@lord_titan_: also don't forget mjolnir can fight on it's own... Or act as a homing missile following her until she gets tagged.