DCEU Nam-EK vs. MCU Ultron

Namek, but it’s a lot closer than many are letting on.

I can see a stalemate.

Though he was beating Thor so it's a lot closer

Ultron wins high diff by scaling.

If we only use AoU feats I am not sure then.

Ultron....we know the capabilities of vibranium.

Vibranium Ultron is probably the most underrated MCU character. He is in that god tier with Hela and Thanos. Namek isn’t enough to destroy him, Superman himself would have immense difficulty with an AI being made entirely of vibranium.

He is below them. More like Kurse or Nano IM tier in my opinion.

Nam-Ek can damage him but I am not sure on who wins.

Yet, Ultron lacks striking feats and strenght feats. He wins only if we scale to Thor, and Thor was weakened when he fought Ultron respectfully.

With scaling, Ultron wins high diff.

Without, either way 5/10

@chaoselement: Honestly Kurse did nothing to put himself on par with Ultron. He had the strength to smash Thor, so did Ultron. Otherwise Kurse was a dumb lumbering monster. Ultron is an AI being who was constantly upgrading himself, and had Iron Man versatility and weapons. Kurse has the Mjolnir feats but since Ultron is made entirely out of vibranium, that doesn’t really mean much.

Anyway, after reviewing the showings from the previous MCU movies, there is enough evidence established to suggest that Kurse is firmly above the kryptonians and is on par with Ultron. He deflected the hammer(which moves at relativistic speeds btw), no-sold a lightning amped Mjolnir to the back, shook the ground with his punches, casually destroyed Asgardian shields and practically fodderised Thor, who physically matched an enraged Hulk while he was weakened.

Hulk > Thor in physicals but the gap between Kurse and Thor was wider than Ultron and Thor.

They both have their advantages but due to having black hole granades, Kurse should take it.

My ranking is; Hela > Thanos = Hulk > Kurse > Ultron > Thor overall in physicals and toughness.

@chaoselement:

Final Form Ultron has lots of good feats besides matching Thor....

This Ultron body tanks fire from a Quinjet.

Final form rips that old body apart pretty casually....

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Does anything from Nam Ek really suggest he doesn’t get ripped apart just as casually??

Final Form Ultrons durability is also very solid. Hits from Hulk, Thor, Vision with mjolnir, combined blasts from Ironman and Thor and Vis.

His durability and damage output seems to be a level above Nam Ek

@death4bunnies:

Nam Ek matched Clark and tanked his hits, overall MOS Clark is on par or above Phase 2 Avengers in everything. Also he and the locomotive train, so definitely he’s not getting ripped apart.

Also why did you discount my vote in they CaV? ...

Namek stomps this mcu wank getting ridiculous Ultron was garbage

@allhellkingdox: Not a chance.

Namek can't fly

Namek can't shoot energy

Ultron has anti-grav that can just lift Namek off his feet.

I doubt Namek can even hurt his Vibranium body. He has no advantages over Ultron.

Nam Ek has no way of hurting Ultron .

Namek basically ragdolled Ultron for like a day and then gets bored. Ultron gets up and yells “yeah you better walk away“.

Ultron.

@chazzer: lifting Namek off his feet does what exactly? Ultron gets bodied Namek is better in every way. He gets turned into a soda can eventually

Ultron is bigger, more durable and more versatile.

@allhellkingdox: "lifting Namek off his feet does what exactly?"

This.

Once he lifts him up, he has full control. He doesn't even have to physically grab him.

@chaoselement:

I no longer think this is a fair fight.

Nam Ek has no response for TK

Ultron has never overpowered anyone as strong as Nam-Ek tho.

Since Ultron scale only to a weakened AOU Thor... Nam-Ek is far stronger.

I am thinking either way just due to Ultron's durability.

Hulk definitely beats him.

@chaoselement:

As long as Ultron can lift Nam Eks weight off the ground with TK, then strength doesn’t matter.

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Nam Ek can’t use his strength to break free of TK once off the ground...there is nothing to push off of...he can’t fly....once Ultron lifts him off the ground, Nam Ek becomes useless.

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if you finish or concede the Diana be Hulk and Thanos CAV...id CAV prime Ultron vs Hulk or Thanos.

I am sorry but that's not how it works. If it worked like that then DCEU Ares and Ebony Maw would one shot any brick.

If you're stronger then you can break out the TK, and Nam-Ek / Hulk have performed better strenght feats than Ultron. Anyways, I am working on my post sorry for the wait but there's some reasons and I am in many CAVs atm.

Accept my request on discord, so we can talk there about the debate.

I think Ultron can take Nam-Ek down, but I am not sure about other powerful bricks. Maybe... he can take Kurse down.

Stalemate

@chaoselement:

Yup that’s how it works.

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Look at Wanda and Thanos...once she lifted him up his strength didn’t matter anymore...he was helpless...she didn’t have to overpowered him in the traditional sense...just lift him up and he becomes helpless.

There are 100s of other examples in fiction..Lifting bricks off the ground with TK makes them useless.

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TK is a great counter for non flying, non energy projecting bricks.

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Well, that's because Wanda is the strongest avenger in term of raw power and her TK is stronger than Thanos bunnies...

Ultron's TK is not on par with Wanda's IMO.

The Hulk would still perform this;

I had to save this picture, it's so funny and really describes Hulk vs Faora where I have no idea why people think Faora can win. Anyways, Ultron gets the Loki treatment.

@chazzer: in that gift ultimately did nothing to Namek also Ultron barely pulled Ironman to him a bracing Nam-Ek can stalemate a bullrushing Superman that pathetic little to pull is no sold.

Ultron only held up a pierce of concrete in each time he did anything with that laughable tk it lasted for one 2-3 seconds at the most. Lol he gets wrecked.

@chaoselement: Ultron being taller is irrelevant cap flat out traded blows with Ultron He striking is piss poor and his hand beams hit cap dead in his chest and did not do anything, Namek took heat vision like a champ. Ultron is turned into scrap metal.

@chazzer: in that gift ultimately did nothing to Namek also Ultron barely pulled Ironman to him a bracing Nam-Ek can stalemate a bullrushing Superman that pathetic little to pull is no sold.

Ultron only held up a pierce of concrete in each time he did anything with that laughable tk it lasted for one 2-3 seconds at the most. Lol he gets wrecked.

@chaoselement: Ultron being taller is irrelevant cap flat out traded blows with Ultron He striking is piss poor and his hand beams hit cap dead in his chest and did not do anything, Namek took heat vision like a champ. Ultron is turned into scrap metal.

@death4bunnies: Namek when bracing can easily withstand his pathetic tk what’s it feats, slightly pulling Tony or lifting concrete for 3 seconds? -_-.

Ultron is a snail compared to Namek he casually breaks the sound barrier with his movements while Ultron gets handle by cap in hand 2 hand.

Even if he could hold Namek up what then? That’s not winning a fight lol. Nam-Ek is the strongest physical kryptonian in MOS and breaks Ultron down eventually

@allhellkingdox:

ummm, I think that Cap fought a older version of Ultron...this one.

seems pretty clear Ultron version 3>>Ultron version 2.

The Ultron in this battle did not fight Cap, he fought Thor.

See...so I don’t think the Cap lowball is applicable when we are taking version 3.

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I don’t think Nam Eks strength matters in a TK lift.

Here is a thread...TK vs Bricks..

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This version of Ultron is made of vibranium, the same as Caps sheild.

Do you really think Nam Ek has damage output over this??

@allhellkingdox: Resist an upward pull? With what? He would need to grab on to something to resist being picked up.

So, no. Try again.

Just to inform you D4B, he only has a part and it's a Vibranium shell. It's not the same material as Cap's shield.

Anyways, leaning Ultron in a very hard fight due to his durability.

If we scale off Thor, then he takes it handily but Thor was weakened in AoU.

@ready_4_madness:

I aim to please sir.

Still Ultron.

Do to Vibranium's physical kinetic absorption (and depending on what powers his internal generator) Ultron may get stronger the longer the fight.

Let me just do a comparison right here. Lots of you guys do it, so I am trying out this for the first time.

(Avengers: Age of Ultron) Hulk > MCU Ultron

(Man of Steel) Nam-Ek > Avengers: (Age of Ultron) Hulk

So... Therefore...

(Man of Steel) Nam-Ek > MCU Ultron

They're both very durable. I'm not sure if they can even hurt each other.

Stalemate.

Nam-Ek wrecks.

This feat is so far above anything nam Ek did...Im tempted to say Ultron oneshots.

Nam-Ek rips Ultron to shreds with absolute ease that it will not even be funny...

@angelwithl: I see you again lol. Anyways Namek can win this.

@kaladar007: Yes, I don't see how Ultron can possibly hurt Nam-Ek in a fight.

Ultron is gonna get torn up like a piece of paper

Ultron. Nam Ek has no counter to TK

Ultron

Ultron.