DCEU: King Orm vs Steppenwolf

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Orm has his trident and armor, Steppenwolf has his ax and armor. Fight takes place underwater at the Ring of Fire/Colosseum. For the purpose of this battle, assume Steppenwolf doesn't need to breathe (or can breathe underwater). Fight is to the death.

Who wins and why?

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King Orm kicks his ass underwater.

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#3 xzone  Online

People are overrating Steppenwolf. Aquaman didn’t have his Trident against Steppenwolf

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Orm

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Orm gets his ass beat just as bad as Aquaman did.

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Underwater with his trident Orm could win.

He's pretty fast underwater and fights like a bad ass.

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#7  Edited By EcstaticGrace

@xzone: Does Aquaman's trident do anything?

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@xzone: I was referring to his new trident

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Steppenwolf.

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Steppenwolf

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Hard to say. Steppenwolf didn't have much trouble against Arthur underwater, but Arthur also didn't have his trident with him for the underwater fight. On top of that Orm's trident is capable of shattering Arthur's trident, which was capable of of piercing Steppenwolf's armor.

And of course Orm is stated to be a more skilled fighter in the water than Arthur is.

I think Orm has the speed, mobility, and damage output to win this. He's also durable enough to take a few hits while Steppenwolf can't really afford to take hits from a piercing weapon.

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#14  Edited By APEX_pretador

Both beat Arthur underwater. Steppenwolf did is easier but orm was facing a more experienced Arthur, and might have not been going all out.

I'd probably back steppenwolf though.

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Orm ftw

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Orm curbs.

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Orm takes this one

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#21  Edited By subline

Steppenwolf.

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Orm.

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Steppenwolf

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Orm stomps.

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Orm

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#27  Edited By RanaProGamer

King Orm at best scales above the JL Aquaman who was comparable to Pre Mother Box Steppenwolf, so I’d say Orm would win as long as he doesn’t get pierced by Steppenwolf’s axe which can turn him into his slave.

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Steppenwolf stomps like he did to Aquaman and Mera.

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Steppenwolf is being slept on again, he would beat Orm 100%

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Steppenwolf Is the non Superman Stomper so he wins even though he’s a complete joke.

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Steppenwolf >/= Diana > Arthur > Orm

Steppenwolf stomps

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Orm isn't beating Steppenwolf.

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steppenwolf stomps.

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Steppenwolf curbs.

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Orm stomps easily. He has every advantage underwater and even on land would put up as much of a fight as Arthur did at least

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Probably Orm.

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#40  Edited By RajjarsAlt

Steppenwolf is stronger but Orm's fury + his speed is 2 good and his dad's trident would cut Step into ribbons. That armor also is good enough to take his hits.

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Steppenwolf. He barely used his axe against Arthur and was able to easily overpower and incapacitate him, something Orm can not do.

This is an interesting fight but it is Steppenwolf's to lose.

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Steppenwolf overpowers him

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@TheGrat1 said:

Steppenwolf. He barely used his axe against Arthur and was able to easily overpower and incapacitate him, something Orm can not do.

This is an interesting fight but it is Steppenwolf's to lose.

Arthur was Unarmed and Unarmored in that fight. Hardly a fair comparison. Arthur started by outmaneuvering Steppenwolf and kneeing him in the face. If Arthur had his trident, he would have killed steppie right there and then.

Realistically, Orm beats Steppie underwater hard. It's not even a match.

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@TheGrat1 said:

Steppenwolf. He barely used his axe against Arthur and was able to easily overpower and incapacitate him, something Orm can not do.

This is an interesting fight but it is Steppenwolf's to lose.

Arthur was Unarmed and Unarmored in that fight. Hardly a fair comparison. Arthur started by outmaneuvering Steppenwolf and kneeing him in the face. If Arthur had his trident, he would have killed steppie right there and then.

Realistically, Orm beats Steppie underwater hard. It's not even a match.

Stepp threw his axe at Arthur the moment he saw him. They were both unarmed for most of the fight. You assume the fight would have gone the exact same way if Arthur had a trident. He typically goes for more straight-line charges with it like he did when Stepp caught his arm. It also less likely for Stepp to throw his axe against an armed opponent (he never did it against Diana or Arthur on land).

Like I said: The crux of my argument is that Stepp can physically overpower Orm which, based on what he did to Arthur, he can do easily.

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@TheGrat1 said:
@chimeroid said:
@TheGrat1 said:

Steppenwolf. He barely used his axe against Arthur and was able to easily overpower and incapacitate him, something Orm can not do.

This is an interesting fight but it is Steppenwolf's to lose.

Arthur was Unarmed and Unarmored in that fight. Hardly a fair comparison. Arthur started by outmaneuvering Steppenwolf and kneeing him in the face. If Arthur had his trident, he would have killed steppie right there and then.

Realistically, Orm beats Steppie underwater hard. It's not even a match.

Stepp threw his axe at Arthur the moment he saw him. They were both unarmed for most of the fight. You assume the fight would have gone the exact same way if Arthur had a trident. He typically goes for more straight-line charges with it like he did when Stepp caught his arm. It also less likely for Stepp to throw his axe against an armed opponent (he never did it against Diana or Arthur on land).

Like I said: The crux of my argument is that Stepp can physically overpower Orm which, based on what he did to Arthur, he can do easily.

Sure thing, but don't forget Arthur's armor. Which is powerful enough to straight-up stop Steppenwolf's ax from going through him even on dry land (this hit weaker underwater).

So, Aquaman has one-shot potential as he can go straight through SW's armor, while his armor can block steppies attacks.

Orm's armor is same technology, they scale to each other.

Orm's Trident is actually STRONGER than the trident Aquaman used to pierce steppie, so we know Orm could pierce him too.

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@chimeroid:

I know....all of that. I am not saying Orm is defenseless or harmless here, just that Steppenwolf has displayed that he is, physically, clearly above Atlanteans.

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@TheGrat1 said:

@chimeroid:

I know....all of that. I am not saying Orm is defenseless or harmless here, just that Steppenwolf has displayed that he is, physically, clearly above Atlanteans.

Hmmm, i am not really sure he is. JL aquaman is <<<< Aquaman Aquaman. There are so many more feats and so many things he has done in that movie that SW would be hard pressed to replicate. But, most importantly, we have seen how good Orm is in water, as in, how skilled, that would be a huge difference. He was beating Aquaman soundly on skill alone.

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Orm gets his ass beat just as bad as Aquaman did.

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#49  Edited By TheGrat1

@chimeroid said:
@TheGrat1 said:

@chimeroid:

I know....all of that. I am not saying Orm is defenseless or harmless here, just that Steppenwolf has displayed that he is, physically, clearly above Atlanteans.

Hmmm, i am not really sure he is. JL aquaman is <<<< Aquaman Aquaman. There are so many more feats and so many things he has done in that movie that SW would be hard pressed to replicate. But, most importantly, we have seen how good Orm is in water, as in, how skilled, that would be a huge difference. He was beating Aquaman soundly on skill alone.

Of course he did more things, it was his solo movie! Screentime alone means he will get more feats. Feel free to prove that Aquaman was amped in-universe between films, by the way. Better feats than you had before =/= amp.

We are going to have to disagree on the Steppenwolf would have a hard time replicating Arthur's "Aquaman" feats argument. He would have flattened Black Manta with ease, even with his bare hands. Taking Kal-El's punches tells me he would have been able to take the Karathen's hits just as well if not better than Arthur. The only things he would have problems replicating would be the feats that involved Atlantean swimming propulsion (like lifting the submarine) simply because he lacks that ability.

No, it was shown that Arthur and Orm were pretty damn close if not dead even in technical fighting skill. Mera (read: the scriptwriters) outright implies that the reason Arthur lost in the ring of fire was that Orm is more used to fighting underwater that he is. An experience gap, not a skill one. The same way Kal-El was doing better against Zod when the fight took to the skies than when they were standing toe-to-toe.

Arthur beat Orm on land. Steppenwolf beat Arthur on both (until Kal-El showed up).

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#50 Viking1205  Online

Steppenwolf overpowers and impales Orm. Orm was above pre-trident Arthur and Wolf deafeated Arthur and Diana.