DCEU Justice League vs MCU Avengers

Justice League including Shazam and 2011 Green Lantern. Shazam is serious (just so he isn’t a child on the battlefield). I’ll add Mera to try to balance the numbers a little. Aquaman gets Atlan’s Trident and armor. Superman is Post-JL. WW is BvS. Flash is serious.

Avengers include base roster by the end of Infinity War (so Prime Thor is here). Plus Captain Marvel, Rescue and Quicksilver (MCU). Captain America gets Mjolnir. Strange doesn’t have timestone.

Fight takes place at Gotham Harbor.

No BFR.

-Scarlet Witch beats Aquaman for obvious reasons

-Captain America beats Batman because Cap > Batman in skill, durability, and strength

-Black Panther beats Flash because Flash will run into him stupidly and get blown up

-Wonder Woman beats Captain Marvel due to superior combat speed and one shot weapon

-Superman beats Hulk, Thor, Iron Man, War Machine, And any street levelers still on the battlefield because statues can’t fight back

Now the fight is Wonder Woman And Superman Vs Quicksilver, Black Panther, Scarlet Witch, And Doctor Strange

There are ways for the MCU to win this actually. When I was writing this I was going to say DCEU Wins, But the more I though about it I realized that Scarlet Witch can beat Diana due to having TK stronger than Diana’s physicals, And if Quicksilver distracts Superman (mostly by running away), Doctor Strange can BFR Him.

I think MCU wins this 7/10

Superman would usually blitz but not this time. There are too many people too blitz and Superman has limits. Thus Avengers

MCU Quicksilver and mjolnir soloing both can tag superman.

Still have lightspeed carol and bifrost can tag superman.

GL and Clark wreck the avengers.

@emmafrostxmen: You forgot about Shazam and Green Lantern as stated by the OP.

OT: JL wins 8/10

The Avengers should consider themselves fortunate there’s no MMH yet.

Basically supes vs the avengers.

Thor or carol could potentially solo.

@omandtellor said:

MCU Quicksilver and mjolnir soloing both can tag superman.

Still have lightspeed carol and bifrost can tag superman.

All this faster than DCEU superman.

@nightgate: Justice League should consider themselves lucky WandaVision (Scarlet Witch’s TV show) hasn’t come out yet because she will be a reality warper in the show and solo their team

@omandtellor: .... MCU QS isnt even faster than Mach 2 , please stop

Thor or carol soloing.

@xanman2000: @nightgate : @emmafrostxmen : @darkonast :

Bifrost can travel justice league go to sun they all get burning in the sun.

@mattyboi: GL and Shazam are here as well. The League wins.

Feats of thor ever using the bifrost to bfr people into the sun?

If only he thought about doing that to thanos.

Thor BFD's Gotham Harbor with Mjolnir (borrowed from Cap via hammer catch), while Strange BFR's the Avenger's temporarily and returns with them for easy pickings.

Shazam is featless fodder. Havent seen GL in a while so dont remember any of his feats

@rajjar: BFR isn’t an option as stated by OP. You have to also factor in GL and Shazam.

@bloodtimeline said:

@xanman2000: @nightgate : @emmafrostxmen : @darkonast :

Bifrost can travel justice league go to sun they all get burning in the sun.

This no one can survived the sun.

Depends on the match ups, but the Avengers take a majority

Thanos have space gem can teleport back to earth.

@mattyboi: Going to ignore the first statement. Kilowag was able to create a simulation of the gravity felt by the sun. He’s basically a walking NLF since it’s stated that the only limit is his imagination

Well, it's not really a BFR in the way its contextualized on the vine. He just ports them away via sling ring from the damage and then back to survive the BFD.

Independently, how can Hal or Billy change the effects of multiple Jotunheim blasts on Gotham harbor?

@overlordmonitor said:

@xanman2000 said:

@bloodtimeline said:

@xanman2000: @nightgate : @emmafrostxmen : @darkonast :

Bifrost can travel justice league go to sun.

Feats of thor ever using the bifrost to bfr people into the sun?

If only he thought about doing that to thanos.

Thanos have space gem can teleport back to earth.

I'm referring to endgame Thanos from the past.

@nightgate: Bifrost will kill everyone in the sun.

@rajjar: GL is a walking NLF, don’t know if he could change the effects, but he’s definitely a factor in this fight.

Ok, shazam is featless fodder though. Interesting.

@xanman2000 said:

@overlordmonitor said:

@xanman2000 said:

@bloodtimeline said:

@xanman2000: @nightgate : @emmafrostxmen : @darkonast :

Bifrost can travel justice league go to sun.

Feats of thor ever using the bifrost to bfr people into the sun?

If only he thought about doing that to thanos.

Thanos have space gem can teleport back to earth.

I'm referring to endgame Thanos from the past.

@rajjar: It is a plot movie for ending by tony use IG snap / If thor use bifrost movie end game will ending fast.

Fair enough. That ring is broken powerful with the right amount of willpower.

@xanman2000 said:

@overlordmonitor said:

@xanman2000 said:

@bloodtimeline said:

@xanman2000: @nightgate : @emmafrostxmen : @darkonast :

Bifrost can travel justice league go to sun.

Feats of thor ever using the bifrost to bfr people into the sun?

If only he thought about doing that to thanos.

Thanos have space gem can teleport back to earth.

I'm referring to endgame Thanos from the past.

Don't bother that's a minlerdemon alt.

@mattyboi: Feats are feats. Even from the little he displayed, he outstats 11/15 listed Avengers members.

@rajjar: So true. I love the Green Lanterns but they are broken. If the writer wanted to, they could have him solo this fight. ?

Thor>>>>>>>>>Shazam

Carol>>>>>>>>>>>Shazam

Rescue>>>>>>>>>Shazam

Shazam is only above QS in strength and durability, and outstats strange but strange is hax not power.

Iron man>>>>>>Shazam

Shazam is only above strange, qs, and the street levelers(physically). he would lose to most of them in a fight though, and the ones he beats are the street levelers

@subline@rbt@boc@death4bunnies@xzone@finalkingthanos

@xanman2000: @nightgate: @rajjar:

By feat hulk above superman.

Punching surtur >>>> punching steppenwolf.

Hulk tanking bullet and superman get hurt by bullet.

Superman can't hurt aquaman he get injury by grenade launcher.

Hulk and thor still durable than steppenwolf and aquaman.

Superman can't hurt they speed blitz can't one shot batman.

@mattyboi: When Shazam and Dr.Sivana are fighting underground they began shaking the mall to the point that people there was an earthquake.

He effortlessly caught and held a bus full of people for an extended period of time. We don’t need to talk about speed.

He was able to punch Sivana across several city blocks.

I think he threw the a mid sized truck into the atmosphere.

He tanked punches from Sivana and bulrush that took him underground.

I’ve shown you his feats before. Please don’t ignore them.

Pre-Ragnarök Thor and IM level.

(Not looking to debate, just clarifying).

@mattyboi: Shazam>Black Panther

Shazam>Wanda

Shazam>QS

Shazam>Captain America

Shazam>Black Widow

Shazam>Ant-Man

Shazam>Clint

Shazam>Bucky

There are many more. I was speaking of the Base Avengers roster, he outstats most of them and could arguably one shot them.

Wanda>>>>>>Shazam

Cap with mjolnir>>>>>shazam

Ant man(if in giant form)>>>>>shazam

Shazam is only taking out the street levelers, he has no feats on the level of the rest.

Punching someone far isnt that strong, i doubt its even quantifiable

He'd be like 10-12 tonner in lifting strength, hes not striking with that force tho, and even if he could its still much weaker than most people on team mcu.

@overlordmonitor said:

@xanman2000: @nightgate: @rajjar:

By feat hulk above superman.

Punching surtur >>>> punching steppenwolf.

Hulk tanking bullet and superman get hurt by bullet.

Superman can't hurt aquaman he get injury by grenade launcher.

No longer @ me with your garbage lowballing.

@mattyboi: Honestly, you’re lowballing is annoying. Stop throwing around unquantifiable as an argument.

Ok then tell me, how strong is a punch with knockback?

@mattyboi: We’ve already gone over this. Not rehashing it with you. You want to ignore it and lowball, go right ahead.

Again, how powerful is a punch with knockback?

Captain Marvel+Thor+Wanda >>>>>> Superman

Ironman+Rescue+Warmachine+Falcon+Ironspider >>>>>>>; Wonderwoman

Vision + Doctor Strange >>>>>> Green Lantern

Cap with Mjolnir+ Drax >>>>>; Shazam

Groot+Antman+Black Panther >>>>>>>;; Aquaman

Bucky+Star-lord+Gamora+Hulk >>>>>> ;Cyborg

Quicksilver+Rocket >>>>>>; Mera

Widow+Hawkeye+Wasp >>>>>> Batman

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Marvel stomps.

DC's only chance is Superman, and he can't take Captain Marvel, Thor and Wanda all at once.

Every other matchup is a stomp in favor of MCU because of numbers.

Hulk is a avenger why no have him ?

@overlordmonitor:

I’m gonna edit hulk in right now.

Thank you for the catch.

Avengers have to many numbers but they still lose supes is to much.

Supes and GL carry hard.

I'd give the JL team a solid majority. The best case that could be made for The Avengers is Doctor Strange's bfr.

@boc said:

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