DCEU Heat Vision runs the gauntlet

@eredin12:

1) Yeah we do actually. It's in the movie. Electricity makes heat through resistance of the medium, air has a VERY high resistance and so very high heat. Lightning is only so hot in the air. Tony's suit is metal. Metal (especially gold) is VERY LOW resistance and so the heat would be much much less in the metal and yet it still did leave scars on the suit.

2) No not really, the IW suit just has the ability to regen. Point is irrelevant anyways as the strength of a material does not necessarily correlate to a higher melting point.

3) Fiction yes. Much more durable than any metal on Earth probably, still see point above.

4) Proves nothing. The power of the power stone varies. That blast was mostly concussive force we have not seen the power stone melt anything -> no apparent heat. That wasn't a burn to Thor's face lol.

Wow Thor can no-sell his own powers? Impressive. Means nothing.

Really? Still sticking with that line? "Full Force of a Star" has been debunked more times than I count.

Let me rephrase my arg - the time flow is inconsistent between the first and second moments we see him accelerating off. That is due to Thor's position in said movements.

Eitri was watching it melt, but there's also the fact that by the time Thor reached the forge, the mold was legit done. That's another piece of evidence that I didn't even consider until reading your post. There is no way the on-screen is completely descriptive of the time. There's also the fact that it's likely the diff scenes aren't happening concurrently, but in imperfectly aligned sequential order.

The evidence is from the consistently used MCU canon. The material is withdrawn from the star's core. That's how the origin's been for most of Thor's history. Even that is hotter than that of the surface ( Earth's sun is a good example of this ) which is in turn hotter than that of Earth's sun, even if the star is old.

https://chandra.harvard.edu/resources/faq/sources/snr/snr-39.html

For a 1 thousand to 1 million year old neutron star, the surface temperature is about 1 million Kelvin (whereas the Sun is 5800 K).

@crunch5481: you realize pointing out logical fallacies doesn’t make your point correct?

Eitri isn’t just any authority he is the only authority, there is no basis for assuming he isn’t telling the truth.

There is also no basis to assume the metal this man has molded for thousands of years suddenly reaches its melting point faster than it has for THOUSANDS OF YEARS.

There is literally no evidence against his claims.

Just because you don’t see any evidence of time jumps doesn’t mean there isn’t any.

So in turn you believe:

The person who has done their job for thousands of years doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

uru decided to change the time it takes for it to reach its melting point all on its own.

1) 30 min into the movie it actually says the heat from the extremis people is just over 3000degC which is still SIGNIFICANTLY less than Heat Vision. You are not applying my logic properly and at this point I just do not believe you understand how physics really work as all your writing indicates a very simplistic view. I can tell because I've actually learned these topics in classes and you keep making similar mistakes and assumptions.

There's honestly way too much here to go through and explain in detail to you where you're going wrong with the science of everything. Everything you're saying just sounds believable to people who wouldn't know better, but with any scrutiny it falls apart. I'm not going to waste anymore of my time explaining in the detail why what you're saying is wrong because as you've proven in the past and right now you're either unable, or unwilling to try to learn these concepts or how to properly apply the logic I'm using. Usually I'd say maybe I haven't been clear but at this point I've repeated myself so many times to you in this thread and others before and it never gets through to you. Consider it over.

I'm not saying he's lying, I'm saying he's exaggerating/being inexact. Big difference. And it's true because he doesn't give a specific time frame he gives a vague and general answer.

Not assuming that see statements above^.

There is, watch the scene, the time flow is consistent the whole time the beam is on.

It's not that I just don't see evidence of a time jump, it's that I see DIRECT evidence of CONSISTENT time flow. Big difference, again.

Strawman. I don't believe either of those things, you've constructed that on your own.

Actually, considering the "physical" force and damage the heat vision has, I dont think heat resistance itself is enough to tank it. Something physically overpowering JL Supes to such a degree is crushing most people on the list even if they technically could deal with the heat (which they cant). Additionally, it's from both sides simultaneously.

Ares, Thor, Thanos, and Surtur (he might eat it) make it out alive but not unscathed.

@takenstew22: Thor >>> Cyborg.

Stop at 5.

50 000k>6000c

stips at either thor or zod

With prep tony might survive as well

Definitely stops at Thor could stop at Tony ore Ares. Lol Surtur wouldn't notice

Thors star " feat " is unquantifiable and anyone quoting imaginary numbers is a dog brained retard who should be laughed at.

that said stops at 11 or clears.

@d2therj:

The 50,000K number come from a official guidebook.

I don't care if the coked out of his mind director himself stated it was 1 trillion degrees celsius, doesn't change a thing.

You cannot re-ignite a neutron star, and even ignoring that - the star itself in the movie ignored all scientific reasoning and basis of the real thing. It didn't even behave like a real celestial body.

It's unquantifiable.

Clears

@d2therj: @josh983: Heat vision can't kill the police should stop at 1

Hey, "dog-brain". Still crying about MCU feats that make you shiver in fear?

The star is inside a metal sphere, cuz that's what a dyson sphere is, which is what the VFX studio stated it to be...why the hell would it behave like a real body when they obviously wanted it to behave like a fictional body? Give up the double standards already, and please drop the cringey pseudo-scholar act while you're at it.

Also calling either of the Russo brothers "coked out of his mind" is so memes; you say this while liking and wanking the DCEU and rejecting MCU feats that don't fit within your interpretation of how powerful you want characters to be. And then you have the audacity to claim that the movie ignores scientific reasoning when you do the exact same for the characters you love to wank and then conveniently scream "Science! Science!" when it comes to lowballing non-DCEU verses.

What it comes down to is that if there's a MCU feat you know will hurt your case, you'll try to bullshit your way through it via frames, headcanon, downscaling, and whatever you can pull out of your ass to keep MCU high tiers under MoS Kryptonian level. Keep in mind that these activities don't make you more credible, or less insane, for that matter, than the Word of God. After all, you do have bias against the MCU out of your love for WoDC, so what is there to trust about anything you say about its characters? I mean, placing Superman over fucking Godzilla and Surtur puts you on the rather untrustworthy end of the LA vine, a festering shithole since the start of CBMs, which means you're like, well, idk MotM alt tier?

Oh, and go back to school, m8. You're not good at math. 300 kilotons of W-87 wasn't, isn't, and will never be above 15 megatons of Castle Bravo or a gigaton tier Monarch nuke, no matter how much you manage to weaken Superman with your "cut on face means 99.99999% durability nerf" tier debating. Learning to do math in real life, while useless for a lot of people, is still significantly better than droning on with fancalcs like a peak basement-dweller.

tl;dr try not to insult MCU fans in every thread you post in. Or preferably go back to larva mode when you were wanking comic Supes and appropriately got destroyed by Bane for it.

OT: heat vision's best feat is melting steel, it ain't shit lol

lol

Stops at Thor or Iron Man probably.

Clears.

all that text and I didn't read a single bit of it.

OT: stops at 11 or clears.

Yeah I wasn't counting on you being an illiterate. Why do you have another person type all that toxic garbage out for you?

Go back to school, m8. Learn to read.

The wank thought

Trust takenstew & That kid with the flash pfp.....

1. SpiderMan: Dies
2. Wonder Woman: Without bracelets? Dies
3. Aquaman: DEAD DEAD Aquaman! aka Trash energy durability fish
4. Ares: Dies: Dies ( he died to his own lgihtning)
5. Iron Man: Endgame? No sells
6. Zod: ( Probably survives)
7. Thor: No sells
8. Steppenwolf: Dies
9. Hulk: Dies
10. Thanos: No sells
11. Prime Surtur (size equalized): No sells

Why is Steppenwolf above Thor?

3.5M Kelvin everyone gets vaped

Everybody who can survive post awakened Thor's lightning would probably tank it. His lightning was able to easily destroy the Bifrost which could channel enough energy to destroy all of Jotunheim. Superman's heat vision could be calced at about a 700 billion joules if it could heat up one pound of water to 3.5 million celsius in 1 second. This is also if it is going for two minutes or a hundred and twenty seconds. That is about 700 lightning bolts. But considering the fact that Thor's lightning was able to destroy part of the Asgardian palace and the bifrost bridge it should be considered way more than a regular lightning bolt so I think that it is safe to say that his lightning is at least as powerful as 100 lightning bolts considering the fact that it was able to destroy the bifrost. This would mean that Thanos, Thor, Hela, probably Hulk and Captain Marvel would be fine.

Lol. Why is fodderwolf above Thor and Hulk? And Why is Thor below hulk and Thanos in terms of durability!

Anyway, clears

DCEU TANK >>>>> 3.5 MILLION KELVIN >>>>> SURTURT,THOR,ZOD,THANOS? YES OR NO!

@akz come having destroying this wanker

@akz: I'M PROBABLY THE BIGGEST SUPERMAN FANBOY

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A case can be made for Ironman. Dead stop at Thor but it easily melts Steppenwolf

clears

superman heat vision melted krytp metal that no selled repeated lightning strikes

thor had to shield himself from suturs flame that didnt even melt rock

Stop at surtur or thanos.

@organic: That was not lightning. Those were arcs of electricity. Lightning does not behave like that. Also, Thor is only blocking the force of the energy beam. He is close enough to the fire on the other side of his hammer that he would still get burned if he was not at least resistant to it.

@organic said:

clears

superman heat vision melted krytp metal that no selled repeated lightning strikes

thor had to shield himself from suturs flame that didnt even melt rock

Heat vision was stopped by a door knob

now cry

Lol. Heat vision isn't harming anyone on this list.

Stop at Thor but gets injured

Clears.

@rajjarsalt: feat for the door knob tbh