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Poll DCEU Heat Vision runs the gauntlet (31 votes)

Spider-Man 0%
Wonder Woman 6%
Aquaman 0%
Ares 3%
Iron Man 16%
Zod 0%
Thor 26%
Steppenwolf 0%
Hulk 6%
Thanos 3%
Surtur 23%
clears 16%

JL Supes and post-nuke DD, they stand between the two and must stay conscious for 2 minutes

  1. SpiderMan
  2. Wonder Woman
  3. Aquaman
  4. Ares
  5. Iron Man
  6. Zod
  7. Thor
  8. Steppenwolf
  9. Hulk
  10. Thanos
  11. Prime Surtur (size equalized)
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#1  Edited By Crunch5481

Clears or stops at Surtur. Not sure how heat vision would affect the molten rock monster.

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#2  Edited By Juicers

at 3:33 of the video isn't?

just long as in the video, stops at Thanos or Surtur

2 mins of that, I'd say they clear

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Stops at Surtur

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Stops at Surtur for both

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Stops at Thor.

Nidaviler was a energy resistance feat of a higher caliber.

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DD + Superaman HV does not = nidaviler.

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Stops at Surtur.

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Stop at Thor

Star feat>>>heat vison

And Thor stood Dere for almost a minute

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Thor was close to death after he took the star beam. He's not taking a 2 minute combined HV attack from DD and Supes while still staying conscious.

Thor should be above Hulk though.

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Thor was close to death after he took the star beam.

True

He's not taking a 2 minute combined HV attack from DD and Supes while still staying conscious.

You lost me. What has HV done that is on par with Thor's Durability feats, like city level explosions?

Thor should be above Hulk though.

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@xzone: I don't remember Thor ever taking city level explosions.

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@xzone: I don't remember Thor ever taking city level explosions.

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Is this not city level?

Regardless, HV has done nothing even close to that

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@xzone: That wasn't city level.

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#16  Edited By Crunch5481

@xzone said:
@takenstew22 said:

@xzone: I don't remember Thor ever taking city level explosions.

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Is this not city level?

Regardless, HV has done nothing even close to that

And it doesn't need to. You're interpretation of how durability works is flawed, as well as your interpretation of this feat.

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@xzone said:
@takenstew22 said:

@xzone: That wasn't city level.

How so?

Because it was only a chunk of a city. Multi-city block/town level at best.

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@takenstew22: It is referred to as a city in AOU. Regardless, we have not seen HV do much to anyone who has this level or durability

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@takenstew22: To be fair, city level is, IMO, inconclusive because of the massive difference in city sizes

So more a more accurate question, is when has HV damaged opponents who have taken explosions like that

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@xzone: It damaged DD who took a nuke.

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@xzone: I thought there was one point where it hit DD and it hurt him but I guess not.

But DD's HV did hurt Superman who has good durability feats of his own.

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At first I would say Thor, Hulk or Thanos could but the 2 minute time frame is a lot longer than it sounds so perhaps not.

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@finalkingthanos:

Are you sure that Thor who took heat 60X hotter than HV and ridiculous concussive force for atleast a minute while holding a heavy door and wasn't KO'ed won't survive Clark HV(60times weaker) BTW for 2 minutes? Yeah I don't think so...

OT: stops at 3 or 4

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Probably stops at Ares or Iron Man if it gets past them it stops at Thor, Thor no-sells it

Supermans HV was said to be 6000 Celsius while Thor can no sell much higher temperatures and even if we ignore this and go by feats it has no feats to hurt Thor

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Hard stop at Thor

He took the star beam for minutes

He can tank their beams for 2

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Hulk and Thanos Snapped their heat vision comes nowhere near that.

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Thor was close to death after he took the star beam. He's not taking a 2 minute combined HV attack from DD and Supes while still staying conscious.

Thor should be above Hulk though.

thor being close to death means nothing when that beam is logically magnitudes more powerful than HV

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Stops at Thor

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#32 SamJackson  Online

If Tony gets his shield they could stop there. Definitely stop at Thor.

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@eredin12 said:

Probably stops at Ares or Iron Man if it gets past them it stops at Thor, Thor no-sells it

Definitely not stopping at either of them.

Supermans HV was said to be 6000 Celsius while Thor can no sell much higher temperatures and even if we ignore this and go by feats it has no feats to hurt Thor

Heat transfer is more complicated than "oh this has a higher temperature" and you have no proof that Thor endured higher temperatures. That's pure conjecture.

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@skrskr said:

Hard stop at Thor

He took the star beam for minutes

He can tank their beams for 2

It was ~40 seconds, not minutes.

No he cannot.

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Hulk and Thanos Snapped their heat vision comes nowhere near that.

The energy released from snapping is unquanitfiable; therefore your statement is based on assumption and not fact. Try bringing substance. Not to mention that two types of damage are completely different.

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Stops at Thor.

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@crunch5481: wrong, eitri said he would have to hold it open for minutes to melt the metal.

The guy who works the forge >>> your headcanon

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Thor's energy durability is ridiculous I would say the stop at him though two minutes is a lot I would say he remains conscious.

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@skrskr said:

@crunch5481: wrong, eitri said he would have to hold it open for minutes to melt the metal.

The guy who works the forge >>> your headcanon

I'm well aware of what Etri said. Spoken word=/= truth. Your appeal to authority is not an argument.

Visual evidence>>>>>spoken word

On-screen observable evidence shows no evidence of any TIME cuts/jumps during the forge scene and from when Thor opens the forge until when he passes out there is ~40 seconds of time.

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they Stop at thor

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@crunch5481: Explain how their different crunch.

Heat Vision is a directed beam of light. The snap released energy in one single burst and no one but the wearer was affected in any way despite people being in the same room which doesn't make much sense if it was supposed to be giving off Gamma Radiation.

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#43  Edited By Eredin12

@crunch5481:

Definitely not stopping at either of them.

By feats it can

Heat transfer is more complicated than "oh this has a higher temperature" and you have no proof that Thor endured higher temperatures. That's pure conjecture.

There is no need for mental gymnastics here if somone can no sell 100 000 celsius, 6000 celsius will obviously not hurt him, and yes i do have proof, their feats are proof of that

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#44  Edited By RajjarsAlt

Lol when people compare two beams of steel melting HV to a dyson sphere.

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#45  Edited By RajjarsAlt

@crunch5481 said:
@skrskr said:

@crunch5481: wrong, eitri said he would have to hold it open for minutes to melt the metal.

The guy who works the forge >>> your headcanon

I'm well aware of what Etri said. Spoken word=/= truth. Your appeal to authority is not an argument.

Visual evidence>>>>>spoken word

On-screen observable evidence shows no evidence of any TIME cuts/jumps during the forge scene and from when Thor opens the forge until when he passes out there is ~40 seconds of time.

There is a time cut/jump when Thor gets accelerated off the iris. There is evidence that the events aren't happening in real time. In any case, Eitri's interpretation of events has way more ethos, and your false equivalency that equates ethos to an appeal to authority isn't an argument either. He doesn't even know that Thor is gonna stand in the iris when he says that. He even asks why.

In any case, it's not hot enough to burn him to unconsciousness within two minutes, which by his tolerance = moments from death.

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@crunch5481: that’s a horrible way to perceive that, so you are saying eitri the guy who has worked that forge for thousands of years would have his count off from minutes to 40 seconds? Do you realize the margin of error there?

Why would disney/marvel make the scene legitimately 2-4 minutes long just to show Thor getting burnt half to death the entire time?

When they can still show the gravity of the situation in just 30-40 seconds.

Jesus Christ your logic makes no sense.

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@skrskr said:

@crunch5481: that’s a horrible way to perceive that, so you are saying eitri the guy who has worked that forge for thousands of years would have his count off from minutes to 40 seconds? Do you realize the margin of error there?

Why would disney/marvel make the scene legitimately 2-4 minutes long just to show Thor getting burnt half to death the entire time?

When they can still show the gravity of the situation in just 30-40 seconds.

Jesus Christ your logic makes no sense.

Still appealing to authority. Etri also said it was the full force of the star his statements are not Gospel. They are not literal truth.

And you did not address the fact that there is no evidence of any time jumps in the scene. No time-jumps means 40 seconds.

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@crunch5481 said:
@skrskr said:

@crunch5481: wrong, eitri said he would have to hold it open for minutes to melt the metal.

The guy who works the forge >>> your headcanon

I'm well aware of what Etri said. Spoken word=/= truth. Your appeal to authority is not an argument.

Visual evidence>>>>>spoken word

On-screen observable evidence shows no evidence of any TIME cuts/jumps during the forge scene and from when Thor opens the forge until when he passes out there is ~40 seconds of time.

There is a time cut/jump when Thor gets accelerated off the iris. There is evidence that the events aren't happening in real time. In any case, Eitri's interpretation of events has way more ethos, and your false equivalency that equates ethos to an appeal to authority isn't an argument either. He doesn't even know that Thor is gonna stand in the iris when he says that. He even asks why.

In any case, it's not hot enough to burn him to unconsciousness within two minutes, which by his tolerance = moments from death.

I just rewatched the scene and I standby my point 100%. There is no time jump when Thor gets accelerated off the Iris. With each and every cut in the scene we can tell that it is maintaining normal time flow.

Beyond that at the rate the metal was melting and also the fact that Etri was just standing there watching it intently also indicates it happened much quicker than a 2 minute claim.

What is your evidence for the heat of the star?

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@eredin12 said:

@crunch5481:

Definitely not stopping at either of them.

By feats it can

Heat transfer is more complicated than "oh this has a higher temperature" and you have no proof that Thor endured higher temperatures. That's pure conjecture.

There is no need for mental gymnastics here if somone can no sell 100 000 celsius, 6000 celsius will obviously not hurt him, and yes i do have proof, their feats are proof of that

By feats they cannot survive it. Iron Man's suits were being shredded by heats less than 2000degC in Iron Man 3 and there is no evidence that Iron Man has EVER used a different material makeup in his mainline suits. Just because it is nano-tech does not mean the nano-tech is of a new material. There is no metal on earth with a melting point even close to 6000Kelvin. Tungsten has the highest with about HALF that temperature. And Iron Man's suit is NOT vibranium don't even go there. There is literally negative evidence of it being vibranium. The power stone blast is entirely unquantifiable and cannot be used as evidence due to the HUGE differences in level of power used from it by Thanos. And Ares has no feats to suggest he is up there either.

That is not mental gymnastics that is literally the science of heat transfer, different mediums and modes of heat transfer will transfer that heat at different rates. Who no sold 100,000 degC? Where's the proof? You can't just say their feats are proof, you have to say which feat exactly and explain why that feat is 100,000 degrees Celsius because Thor has done no such thing.

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#50  Edited By Eredin12

@crunch5481:

By feats they cannot survive it. Iron Man's suits were being shredded by heats less than 2000degC in Iron Man 3 and there is no evidence that Iron Man has EVER used a different material makeup in his mainline suits. Just because it is nano-tech does not mean the nano-tech is of a new material. There is no metal on earth with a melting point even close to 6000Kelvin. Tungsten has the highest with about HALF that temperature. And Iron Man's suit is NOT vibranium don't even go there. There is literally negative evidence of it being vibranium. The power stone blast is entirely unquantifiable and cannot be used as evidence due to the HUGE differences in level of power used from it by Thanos. And Ares has no feats to suggest he is up there either.

1. We do not know how high was that heat, I do not think that it was said to bee less than 2000C, in fact, his suit was not burned by lightning that was sustained for multiple secodns which is much hotter than HV and before you say HeRr DeRp NoRmAl PePlE SuRvIVe lIGhTnInG that is only true because heat lasts very litle time so it cannot be fully applied, Thor's lightning lasted for multiple seconds on Tony and Thor's lightning is far more powerful than real one, it charged his suit to 400% of power in secodns and his suit can output few tons of TNT worth of energy evrey second

2.IW Suit are much more durable, are you really sugestign that suit that got damaged by truck and Cap would be able to tank Thanos hits, dont be silly, IW armor is far strogner

3. You do realize that this is fiction right? Iron Man armor is much much more durable than any metal on earth, to begin with, we cannot use real-world metals melting points

4. It is not unqaitifalbe Thanos did not use bemas of Power Stone many times, when he was attacking street levelers he used different kinds of attack, power stone beam was used to destroy the fleet, disintegrate boulders, and Thanos was clearly very angry and using great amount of effort, in the same move he burned Thor with same power stone so yeah Superman HV has no feats to do something to it

I could argue for Ares surviving it as well but i do not care enaguh for it to do so

That is not mental gymnastics that is literally the science of heat transfer, different mediums and modes of heat transfer will transfer that heat at different rates. Who no sold 100,000 degC? Where's the proof? You can't just say their feats are proof, you have to say which feat exactly and explain why that feat is 100,000 degrees Celsius because Thor has done no such thing.

That kind of is mental gymnastics and i am just using 100 000 degres as an example to prove the point

Thor can no-sell his own lightning, him tanking full force of Neutron Star alone is enaguh to prove that Supermans pathetic HV cannot harm him