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#1 Edited by nightgate (928 posts) - - Show Bio
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Thor vs Faora

H2H Only

* Fight takes place in Smallville.

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#3 Posted by Nandope (463 posts) - - Show Bio

Faora speed Blitz this slug

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#4 Posted by GeorgeWBush (12473 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor knocks her out

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#5 Posted by MAZAHS117 (12888 posts) - - Show Bio

Faora. Too much speed + skill for Thor w/o Mjolnir or Stormbreaker to equalize

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#6 Edited by TakenStew22 (2412 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd still back Faora even if speed was equalized tbh.

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#7 Posted by HERMES1220 (330 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor would lose this because he doesn’t have Stormbreaker. Faora 6-7/10.

Faora has better skill showings, speed, and visually stronger striking.

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#8 Edited by Rajjar (2421 posts) - - Show Bio

Lightning cloak gg

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#9 Posted by nightgate (928 posts) - - Show Bio

@rajjar: Really quickly, what feats does Thor’s lightning cloak have, other than Wakanda.

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#10 Posted by MainJP (6438 posts) - - Show Bio

Faora throws him into a bank.

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#11 Posted by CreoleCuddy (805 posts) - - Show Bio

I want to say Thor, but I feel he can’t keep up in terms of speed.

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#12 Posted by death4bunnies (1729 posts) - - Show Bio

@nightgate:

Thor gets knocked around a bit, then grabs hold of Feora pounds her into submission.

Her speed seems to be burst style and thats all the opening Thor needs.

Thors lightning amped striking feats are far better than Feoras and his strength is in another category altogether.

This is assuming we are using lighting amp striking feats for Thor, his non lightning amped punches couldn't get it done I dont think.

Thor 8/10

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#13 Posted by nightgate (928 posts) - - Show Bio

@death4bunnies: Fair enough. I didn’t specify no lightning amps because it seemed like spite.

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#14 Edited by Batman242 (12369 posts) - - Show Bio

Faora stomps him. She's a faster Hela and Thor barely ever touched her.

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#15 Posted by Rajjar (2421 posts) - - Show Bio

@rajjar: Really quickly, what feats does Thor’s lightning cloak have, other than Wakanda.

Uh, why is Wakanda irrelevant again?

It fodderizes Asgardians, who, despite being zombies, counted among Asgard's creme of the crop, in it's war-making prime. Thor disintegrated them, necrotized flesh and armor. And Asgardian flesh and armor?

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/why-mcu-thor-is-bullet-proof-1999288/?page=1#js-message-21455355

Hence, it should be enough to prevent Faora, who has $hit energy durability to begin with, from being able to fight to the best of her capacity and guard against Thor's lightning-charged punches, when said electricity rolls off Thor and goes onto her.

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#16 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (17147 posts) - - Show Bio

She runs circles around him.

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#17 Edited by Bearderby (475 posts) - - Show Bio

does Thor can use his god of thunder rage or lightning cloak?
if yes, Thor wins.
otherwise Faora wins

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#18 Posted by Batman242 (12369 posts) - - Show Bio

@rajjar said:
@nightgate said:

@rajjar: Really quickly, what feats does Thor’s lightning cloak have, other than Wakanda.

Uh, why is Wakanda irrelevant again?

It fodderizes Asgardians, who, despite being zombies, counted among Asgard's creme of the crop, in it's war-making prime. Thor disintegrated them, necrotized flesh and armor. And Asgardian flesh and armor?

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/why-mcu-thor-is-bullet-proof-1999288/?page=1#js-message-21455355

Hence, it should be enough to prevent Faora, who has $hit energy durability to begin with, from being able to fight to the best of her capacity and guard against Thor's lightning-charged punches, when said electricity rolls off Thor and goes onto her.

Wakanda would be irrelevant probably due to that lightning Cloak being enhanced by Stormbreaker. This being a H2H fight would mean his lightning cloak wouldn't be that potent.

I don't think disintegrating the undead soldiers is that good a feat since everybody who hit them made them crumble into pieces-- flesh and armor included, those are physical hits, so I'd think plasma can do a bit more since it also brings heat into the equation.

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#19 Edited by Rajjar (2421 posts) - - Show Bio

@batman242 said:
@rajjar said:
@nightgate said:

@rajjar: Really quickly, what feats does Thor’s lightning cloak have, other than Wakanda.

Uh, why is Wakanda irrelevant again?

It fodderizes Asgardians, who, despite being zombies, counted among Asgard's creme of the crop, in it's war-making prime. Thor disintegrated them, necrotized flesh and armor. And Asgardian flesh and armor?

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/why-mcu-thor-is-bullet-proof-1999288/?page=1#js-message-21455355

Hence, it should be enough to prevent Faora, who has $hit energy durability to begin with, from being able to fight to the best of her capacity and guard against Thor's lightning-charged punches, when said electricity rolls off Thor and goes onto her.

Wakanda would be irrelevant probably due to that lightning Cloak being enhanced by Stormbreaker. This being a H2H fight would mean his lightning cloak wouldn't be that potent.

If so, I don't know how Stormbreaker can enhance the potency of Thor's cloak without the cloak actually touching it first.

Independently, I dunno if Stormbreaker produced the lightning in said feat.

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Because at the very end, the cloak was coming from Thor's body, while SB had the same blue flame, and a tiny crackle on the ax side. So I doubt that SB did much beyond the physical impacts it was producing.

But then again, we didn't see what was happening inside those ships, so there is a fair chance my interpretation is wrong.

I don't think disintegrating the undead soldiers is that good a feat since everybody who hit them made them crumble into pieces-- flesh and armor included, those are physical hits, so I'd think plasma can do a bit more since it also brings heat into the equation.

Fair. But I suppose with what I'm trying to use it for, the burden of proof is far less than what's required for "Cloak one-shots MOS Kryptonians gg", though I think it helps him out in finding avenues of offense that his limbs couldn't access without it.

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#20 Posted by Batman242 (12369 posts) - - Show Bio

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If so, I don't know how Stormbreaker can enhance the potency of Thor's cloak without the cloak actually touching it first.

Independently, I dunno if Stormbreaker produced the lightning in said feat.

I hate to use statements for arguments, but I haven't got much choice here. Odin confirmed that Mjolnir was channeling Thor's powers, not giving him them;

That hammer was to help you control your power, to focus it.

Following this line of reasoning, Stormbreaker would help focus Thor's powers and would do a better job due to it being a stronger weapon than Mjolnir and Thor unlocking his full potential prior to wielding it.

Fair. But I suppose with what I'm trying to use it for, the burden of proof is far less than what's required for "Cloak one-shots MOS Kryptonians gg", though I think it helps him out in finding avenues of offense that his limbs couldn't access without it.

Agreed.

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#21 Posted by Rajjar (2421 posts) - - Show Bio

@rajjar:

I hate to use statements for arguments, but I haven't got much choice here. Odin confirmed that Mjolnir was channeling Thor's powers, not giving him them;

Well yeah.

Following this line of reasoning, Stormbreaker would help focus Thor's powers and would do a better job due to it being a stronger weapon than Mjolnir and Thor unlocking his full potential prior to wielding it.

True, but at this point in time, Thor can operate his powers independently post-Ragnarok. I don't like being nit-picky, but wouldn't the lightning have to touch/generated from SB for said channeling to occur?

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#22 Posted by nightgate (928 posts) - - Show Bio

@rajjar: I wasn’t attacking you or being accusatory, I was genuinely curious as I couldn’t recall it doing anything spectacular. That being said, the ship busting feat is from Thor’s bullrush, not his lightning cloak alone.

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#23 Posted by Batman242 (12369 posts) - - Show Bio

@rajjar: Not really. It's said he uses Mjolnir to focus his powers overall, not that he uses the weapon to use them at all. (I mean he actually did, but Odin's lesson was that he didn't need to)

Seeing the tendrils of lightning at best just disintegrate soldiers that were already being turned to bread crumbs from hits turn to going through a ship while wielding an axe is indication to me that the axe has something to do with it.

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#24 Posted by APEX_pretador (21309 posts) - - Show Bio

Ends in sex

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#25 Posted by Rajjar (2421 posts) - - Show Bio

@rajjar: I wasn’t attacking you or being accusatory, I was genuinely curious as I couldn’t recall it doing anything spectacular. That being said, the ship busting feat is from Thor’s bullrush, not his lightning cloak alone.

Fair, sorry to come off like that.

Sure, it was Thor's bullrush, but a majority of the explosions did follow the direction the lightning arcs were going. Look at the 5th one -

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I think they are mainly responsible for the outer part, with the inner parts of the ship being destroyed via bullrush as you said, since I dunno if the explosions would have been so fast without the cloak, since the lightning bolts did occur a split second before the explosions.

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#26 Edited by Rajjar (2421 posts) - - Show Bio

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@rajjar: Not really. It's said he uses Mjolnir to focus his powers overall, not that he uses the weapon to use them at all. (I mean he actually did, but Odin's lesson was that he didn't need to)

Seeing the tendrils of lightning at best just disintegrate soldiers that were already being turned to bread crumbs from hits turn to going through a ship while wielding an axe is indication to me that the axe has something to do with it.

Ok, but do you think this would still hold true for lightning summoned from the sky that didn't touch the ax?

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#27 Posted by Batman242 (12369 posts) - - Show Bio

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@batman242 said:

@rajjar: Not really. It's said he uses Mjolnir to focus his powers overall, not that he uses the weapon to use them at all. (I mean he actually did, but Odin's lesson was that he didn't need to)

Seeing the tendrils of lightning at best just disintegrate soldiers that were already being turned to bread crumbs from hits turn to going through a ship while wielding an axe is indication to me that the axe has something to do with it.

Ok, but do you think this would still hold true for lightning summoned from the sky that didn't touch the ax?

Not sure, seeing as he never called lightning from the sky with Stormbreaker as far as I remember. The strongest lightning he called down was supposedly on Hela, but I think his lightning on Sokovia was probably stronger.

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#28 Posted by Rajjar (2421 posts) - - Show Bio

@rajjar said:
@batman242 said:

@rajjar: Not really. It's said he uses Mjolnir to focus his powers overall, not that he uses the weapon to use them at all. (I mean he actually did, but Odin's lesson was that he didn't need to)

Seeing the tendrils of lightning at best just disintegrate soldiers that were already being turned to bread crumbs from hits turn to going through a ship while wielding an axe is indication to me that the axe has something to do with it.

Ok, but do you think this would still hold true for lightning summoned from the sky that didn't touch the ax?

Not sure, seeing as he never called lightning from the sky with Stormbreaker as far as I remember. The strongest lightning he called down was supposedly on Hela, but I think his lightning on Sokovia was probably stronger.

Well, it fits under the idea of channeling yielding much more damage than lightning alone. And/or Asgard being hella durable.

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#29 Posted by Johnthemarvel12 (249 posts) - - Show Bio

Faora beats thor,in h2h she is faster,has more impressive striking,so imo she takes the majority 7/10.

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#30 Posted by DavidHarewood14 (1841 posts) - - Show Bio

Faora beats thor,in h2h she is faster,has more impressive striking,so imo she takes the majority 7/10.

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#31 Posted by destinyman75 (15153 posts) - - Show Bio

@batman242: To be fair Hela would stomp faora as well

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#32 Posted by Daywalker88 (234 posts) - - Show Bio

If it's fat Thor she destroys him. If it's IW prime Thor then he wins but he has to work for it

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#34 Posted by destinyman75 (15153 posts) - - Show Bio

What are you folks smoking. Thor showed plenty of skills I'm ragnor. Also he's stronger far more durable. Even weaker Clark beat her fairly easily. And Prime Thor vs Clark now is a toss up..Thor wins but Faora makes him work for it..she has burst if speed not combat speed he can't deal with

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#36 Posted by Daywalker88 (234 posts) - - Show Bio

@destinyman75: They ain't smoking anything man they just not using common sense lol

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#37 Posted by Lan_Fan (15996 posts) - - Show Bio

@destinyman75: That Clark wouldn't beat Faora in H2H (no flight) either, tbh. She was clearly thrashing him in speed, and her hits also hurt him (even knocked him out for a bit with Nam-Ek's help). He cheap shotted her mask, that's how he won, not sure how you consider that "beat her fairly easily".

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#40 Edited by Batman242 (12369 posts) - - Show Bio

@destinyman75: Not.

Anyway, we're talking about Thor here. He loses.

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#41 Edited by destinyman75 (15153 posts) - - Show Bio

@lan_fan: with Nam eks help. And even so she has the mask weakness and, all she really has is bull rush which don't overcome the Thunder God let alone Hela....Be a good fight to see though

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#42 Posted by destinyman75 (15153 posts) - - Show Bio

@batman242: lol no way. Thor vs Clark is a toss up. Faora is a decent fight with her bull rushes but that's not enough. His lightning and or Clark can offset that rather quickly. Wouldn't mind seeing it though

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#43 Edited by Lan_Fan (15996 posts) - - Show Bio

@destinyman75: She didn't have Nam-Ek when she was embarrassing Superman in speed. I'm pretty sure she's pretty much in the same league as Clark, but with better speed, and no flight, heat vision, freeze breath, etc... Which is not a factor in hand to hand. Even with her mask weakness, she wouldn't just let Thor punch it, even then it barely got destroyed by Superman's bullrush, which packs much more force than Thor's punches.

She has a massive combat speed advantage, and I don't see why her strikes wouldn't hurt Thor and put him down at some point.

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#44 Posted by Lan_Fan (15996 posts) - - Show Bio

People should really watch Man of Steel again. How did you guys get the conclusion that Nam-Ek and Faora are physically far weaker than Superman? I don't see it at all.

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#45 Edited by Batman242 (12369 posts) - - Show Bio

@destinyman75: Thor vs Clark is a tossup to you and only you for some strange reason. Clark stomps Thor especially in a H2H fight.

Faora is too fast for Thor and we've got nothing to think his lightning cloak would do much but annoy her. Thor gets beat into submission eventually.

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#46 Edited by Batman242 (12369 posts) - - Show Bio

@lan_fan: People usually like to ignore that the only reason the fight with them ended in a draw was because Clark used his flight to gain an advantage and Faora had her attention elsewhere. If Clark had no flight, he'd have probably never tagged Faora until he realized how fast he was himself.

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#47 Posted by RBT (29248 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor wins with lightning punches. Loses without it.

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#48 Posted by JefferydeDucke (514 posts) - - Show Bio

If faora gets hurt by heat vision, then she gets really hurt or dead by lightning which travels Mach 200+.

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#49 Posted by Daywalker88 (234 posts) - - Show Bio

@jefferydeducke: Hey don't let the DC clowns hear you say that. Their ass still hurts from destiny man speaking the truth lol

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#50 Edited by Lan_Fan (15996 posts) - - Show Bio

@daywalker88: Damn dude, what's your problem? I'm pretty sure we're just having a civil discussion here. If anyone is hurt, it's probably you, and I don't even know why.