DCEU Dr. Fate vs MCU Black Order

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Fate has a vision before the fight and is prepped

who wins?

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Fate will most likely use his clones and stomps everyone except for maybe Cull but he’ll eventually get overwhelmed

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#3  Edited By CryoLancer47

Fate without prep lolstomps the fodders.

A Fate who is specifically prepared for them is a massive spite against The Fodder Order.

No one other than Ebony matters, or even has a chance of putting up anything that resembles a fight.

Proxima & Corvus are meme-worthy additions. And add nothing to this encounter. They get blasted to bits by the same energy projectiles that staggered & made Sabbac drop to one knee.

Cull is a big, dumb, slow brick that won't be tanking energy Projectiles that affected the likes of Sabbac. One Ankh-Crystal takes him out until Fate is done with the other clowns. Or he just blasts him to oblivion.

Maw is the only one with a chance of doing anything. But unfortunately, his Squidward lookin' ass is severely outmatched, since Kent ain't no jobber. And doesn't need many hand signs to use his moves. And likes to use his Clone spam while in-character.

Fate gangbangs them.

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Anybody in the JSA solos these clowns

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Kent throws up the gang signs and clowns these fodder. Poor Black Order weren't even a shell of their comic book versions.

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Fate fodderizes Cull, Corvus and Proxima with a gesture and tortures Ebony Maw while making fun of strange for ever being troubled by him to begin with

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#7  Edited By yejj

Fate lolstomp cyclone is a better matchup

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I back the BO, nothing stops EM from just pulling him to Corvus’ blade

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With the abilities Fate displayed I can't see the Order winning against him even if he were unprepared. Wish we got to see more of him.

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None of the order would be even able to touch Kent.

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#11  Edited By deltahuman

Fate can see the future with his helmet but the difference between his precognition and the MCU time stone precognition seems to be that the future in the DCEU is in a way non deterministic and you can foresee how things will happen and if you have the means, you can even change it's course. This gives Fate unprecedented power over his own fate. Idk how that works in a MCU vs DCEU fight but it's something to think about

Anyway, Fate one shots fodder order with his physicals alone. If he's able to contend physically with a 100000+ tonner, then MCU Fodder Order would be like ants to him

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Fate low diff

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@ecoblitz said:

I back the BO, nothing stops EM from just pulling him to Corvus’ blade

Nothing besides the fact that he’s too dumb to even pull Clint, T’Challa or even the freaking gauntlet to himself directly

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@ecoblitz said:

I back the BO, nothing stops EM from just pulling him to Corvus’ blade

To be fair he never does TK on any living entity aside from an unconscious Cull..

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@freefacemask: is there something stopping him from doing TK on a living entity? This isn’t an RPG game. Also pretty sure he did it on strange before tying him up but I could be wrong

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@w3b: did he ever see the gauntlet? I’m genuinely asking.

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Fate will most likely use his clones and stomps everyone except for maybe Cull but he’ll eventually get overwhelmed

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Fate without prep lolstomps the fodders.

A Fate who is specifically prepared for them is a massive spite against The Fodder Order.

No one other than Ebony matters, or even has a chance of putting up anything that resembles a fight.

Proxima & Corvus are meme-worthy additions. And add nothing to this encounter. They get blasted to bits by the same energy projectiles that staggered & made Sabbac drop to one knee.

Cull is a big, dumb, slow brick that won't be tanking energy Projectiles that affected the likes of Sabbac. One Ankh-Crystal takes him out until Fate is done with the other clowns. Or he just blasts him to oblivion.

Maw is the only one with a chance of doing anything. But unfortunately, his Squidward lookin' ass is severely outmatched, since Kent ain't no jobber. And doesn't need many hand signs to use his moves. And likes to use his Clone spam while in-character.

Fate gangbangs them.

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@ecoblitz said:

@freefacemask: is there something stopping him from doing TK on a living entity? This isn’t an RPG game. Also pretty sure he did it on strange before tying him up but I could be wrong

No he actually had to tie up Strange and put him on a rock platform just to move him, the only time he actually TKs a living entity is from What If...?

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This is spite. Fate no diffs.

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Fate curbs.

This should be locked.

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Lockable thread. Fate tears them apart.

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@ecoblitz said:

@w3b: did he ever see the gauntlet? I’m genuinely asking.

Can’t imagine any other reason he would signal to Thanos after seeing Clint running with the gauntlet clutched in his arms.

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#27  Edited By SerpentGod

Fate godstomps.

Made Adam and Sabbac seethe/groan in pain. Notice how both top-tiers struggled to to break free from his Ankh

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Made shackles that even Sabbac struggled to break free from, and pushed him back

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Casted a shield to block Adam's lighting after it was fired

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Withstood Sabbac's flames, then immediately got back up for more

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Fate's physical blows visibly caused Adam pain.

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Takes a punch from Adam

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Staggers and drops Sabbac to one knee by spamming energy blasts

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Can teleport.

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Fate can perform multiple spells simultaneously. While his clones were casting all sorts of bindings and energy projections against Sabbac, Fate himself telepathically communicated with Adam to wake him up, astral projected to the latter's location, then unlocked Adam's cell and deactivated his handcuffs. Keep in mind that right before this, a barrier was being held up around the temple to keep the JSA from interferring.

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Black Adam director Jaume Collet-Serra then explained Fate's final moments against Sabbac:

“He’s doing all of those things at once and that weakens him, his powers are split up.”

The DC filmmaker also teased that Doctor Fate "potentially could have beaten Sabbac," but Nelson wanted to save Hawkman instead:

“Dr. Fate turned that into a future where he died instead, sacrificed himself so Hawkman could live. He potentially could have beaten Sabbac. But in that present prophecy, that would have meant that somehow Hawkman would have died. That’s what he’s trying to prevent.”

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Fate smokes all of them, even if you throw base thanos into the mix

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@arexi: I dont see Thanos teambusting the JSA, I dont think people realise how insane Black Adams feat of teambusting is.

Hawkman alone would give Base Thanos a solid fight, Fate has endless clones, hax and illusions, Atom has power and wind girl can incap him (like Wanda did). Thanos loses to the JSA.

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@shafamalam: Hawkmans only feat is somewhat fighting adam, which is not that impressive considering Thanos scales too Thors Forge feat, Thor pulling the bentar, and captain marvel busting thanos ship, all of these feats are physically better than adam who the JSA was manhandled by

fates few offense spells could only cause pain to adam and Sabbac so they will be tanked by thanos no dif, illusions will only provide an opening and temporary distraction like it did against adam, but ultimately they can't put thanos down

how tf is cyclone gonna restrain thanos? her wind did nothing impressive she is not even close to wanda, almost all her feats are street level

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Fate godstomps.

Made Adam and Sabbac seethe/groan in pain. Notice how both top-tiers struggled to to break free from his Ankh

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Made shackles that even Sabbac struggled to break free from, and pushed him back

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Casted a shield to block Adam's lighting after it was fired

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Withstood Sabbac's flames, then immediately got back up for more

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Fate's physical blows visibly caused Adam pain.

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Takes a punch from Adam

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Staggers and drops Sabbac to one knee by spamming energy blasts

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Can teleport.

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Fate can perform multiple spells simultaneously. While his clones were casting all sorts of bindings and energy projections against Sabbac, Fate himself telepathically communicated with Adam to wake him up, astral projected to the latter's location, then unlocked Adam's cell and deactivated his handcuffs. Keep in mind that right before this, a barrier was being held up around the temple to keep the JSA from interferring.

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https://thedirect.com/article/doctor-fate-die-black-adam

Black Adam director Jaume Collet-Serra then explained Fate's final moments against Sabbac:

“He’s doing all of those things at once and that weakens him, his powers are split up.”

The DC filmmaker also teased that Doctor Fate "potentially could have beaten Sabbac," but Nelson wanted to save Hawkman instead:

“Dr. Fate turned that into a future where he died instead, sacrificed himself so Hawkman could live. He potentially could have beaten Sabbac. But in that present prophecy, that would have meant that somehow Hawkman would have died. That’s what he’s trying to prevent.”

Nuff said lol