DCEU Doomsday vs MCU Avengers

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why lie?

he didnt at all (all his points rebutted by facts) and you now think actual cinematic comparisons are petty? lmao

all comparisons CLEARLY SHOW all krytpnians surpass mcu hulk. PERIOD.

MOSLER SAFES MADE IN THE TWENTIES survived hiroshima. current safes and the one that fiora busted up throwing superman is nuke proof.. a hulk throw is pitiful compared to it. hulk also threw thor and a hydra agent a pitiful distance as well.

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Its safes and vaults were renowned for their strength and precision manufacture: several Mosler vaults installed in Hiroshima's Mitsui Bank building prior to WWII survived the nuclear attack, a fact the company widely publicized in its marketing.

avenger ship bullets are not uranium depleted shells like the one that hit nam ek. hulk also ran from his. we know they are not the same because quicksilver and soldiers, were not paste. lmao

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hulk ran from light weight bullets that didnt wipe out soldiers or quicksilver. these bullets were not tankbusters(like the mos warthog)

sup was hit by a tankbuster and he no selled it.

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look at the difference in power just from landing.

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doomsday stomps easily.

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@nightmare52: in the comics vision phases through beings who easily survive nuked with no harm

comic version =/= MCU version.

whatsoever, why would his phasing be any less versatile in the movie?

Coz this is MCU not 616 universe.

So far, whenever he wants to phase through something, he does.

He needs feats to prove he can rather than having a speculation.

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#303  Edited By Supermanforever
@marveldcdon said:

@nightmare52: in the comics vision phases through beings who easily survive nuked with no harm whatsoever, why would his phasing be any less versatile in the movie? So far, whenever he wants to phase through something, he does.

Lmao "comic version" If we go by comic feats Doomsday adapted and beate a beeing that could phase trough things he also defeated manhunter with absolute ease who can do that. I we go by comics abilities then Hunter prey doomsday capabilities apply to dceu doomsday and he absolutely lolstomps vision

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@emperorxhadesx420: shockwaves will do little to hulk and his heat vision would do little too. Hulk Thor and Ironman could take him down but it would not be easy.

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Hulk Thor and Ironman would take this. Heat vision would not hurt Hulk. It'd be a heck of a brawl but kryptonite would be Tony's weapon. He'd find some trust me. Boom done.

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DD Stomp this fools that will only make him stronger the longer this fight goes

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Hulk Thor and Ironman would take this. Heat vision would not hurt Hulk. It'd be a heck of a brawl but kryptonite would be Tony's weapon. He'd find some trust me. Boom done.

op dident said anything about kryptonite if he had id imadiatly said team pretty much stomp they have better and smarter ways to kill him than to go suisad on his ass like dumb supse did

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@chaos239: no my point was that he can phase in the movies just like he can in the comics based on the same science, so if it's exactly the same in the movies as in the comics then why would his phasing be limited in the movies to only beings who can't survive a nuke? It makes no sense

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#310  Edited By Chaos239

@marveldcdon: You can't apply Comic Logic to Movie, unless your saying Iron Man, Thor and Vision are capable of melting Ultron in the Comics?

Visions phasing works via molecules, Supermans molecules were to dense to be ripped apart by a nuke, Vision has never phased through a being as dense as Clark, once he has THEN he can phase Kill Clark.

Until the Clark ragdolls Vision and rips him in half since MCU Vibranium doesn't have feats to suggest it can take Supermans attacks.

And since Doomsday is leagues above Clark then the exact same applies to him.

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Avengers can win via BFR, but that's about it.

And the lowball for MCU is lovely. I can and will debate anyone who thinks vision, hulk, Wanda, and thor can't hurt DD.

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@chaos239: no, iron Man and Thor don't have the feats to put them on par with their comic book counterparts. Vision on the other hand has shown no sign of being any weaker than he is in the comics. Same goes for his phasing, and when was in stated in the movies that his phasing is based off of Molecules, and even so, it wasn't stated that Clark survived the bomb because of the density of his molecules, molecules are all the same size and density it's just about how close they are together and how many of them there are. No one Molecule is any bigger or smaller than another. There is nothing that has been stated in the movies to suggest Vision's phasing has any limitations, nor to suggest Kryptonians are immune to phasing. And again, I'm not saying Vision can defeat Doomsday, but with the help of the other Avengers they can definitely take out Doomsday. Scarlet Witch has Molecule Manipulation on a subatomic level, she could break doomsday down without even breaking a sweat. Hulkbuster Iron Man is more than capable of creating a distraction, and Thor and The Hulk can tangle with him on their own, so together they'll see it as a bonding game??

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@marveldcdon: Ok, this is absolutely terrible logic...

Clark was dense enough to survive the Nuke which rips apart your molecules, indicating he's too dense, Vision has only ever Phased through Ultron bots which even Black Widow could destroy.

Scarlet Witch struggled and couldn't contain Crossbones explosion, what makes you think Doomsday will even be slowed down, considering Ares has better TK feats than SW and he most definitely can't kill and beat Doomsday.

Hulkbuster is fodder to Doomsday as are the entire Avengers team to Clark who Doomsday was ragdolling like a child Post-Nuke.

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#314  Edited By dcuwins

@drpepperman:

laugheable

thor could not ko anyone with a name. falling cars, extremists and war monger caused far more damage to iron man than thor ever did.

cinematic feats show krytptonians surpass mcu hulk or thor easily. bvs movie even states nothing could penetrate zods skin.

ask yourself

when zod and superman bull rush each other you get a shock wave explosion,

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but when thor and hulk do (or hulk and abomination) you get nothing.

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wanda strained to contain a minor explosion. she will do jack against doomsday.

doomsday stomps easily .

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i wonder how much more op DD would have been if he got hit with more nukes

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#316  Edited By DrPepperMan

@dcuwins: your Name shows your bias.

Stop lowballing. Hulk can dent reinforced vibranium, thor has destroyed vibranium. Regular vibranium has no sold contact with titanium, building busters, and bullets. Weakened vibranium has tanked a bull rush from hulk. Yet when hulk went all out he dented reinforced vibranium and when thor charged up lightning he destroyed miles of it. This is superman level stuff.

Stop lowballing again, I could use the fact superman was outmaneuvered by a pogo stick and how DCEU superman is a shadow of his former self to debunk DDs speed, but I won't. Scarlet witch only struggled because she had little control of her power, what about the time she causally flipped multiple cars? She has also ripped through vibranium while bloodlusted. If she and vision played it smart they could BFR DD into space.

Lol no, FAORA would get stomped by hulk and thor, Namek would get wrecked by either. Hulk and thor could even beat Zod if they worked together.

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@drpepperman:

hulk denting a vibranium alloy is a pure imaginary statement made by few fanboys .

Thor never destroyed vibranium.

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@nightmare52: hulk very clearly did in Agents of SHIELD. Thor in AOU did to break apart sokovia.

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Doomsday

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@drpepperman: it wasn't actual vibranium, shield had limited vibranium resources so they coupled it with other metals, the cage and everything in the bus also got destroyed and that cage has the vibranium thing. We saw the vibranium after the explosion, thor caused absolutely no damage to it, all he did was disrupt the magnetic field holding the landmass together by overloading it.

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@DammeFavour: it was still coupled with other metals as you said.

It would take a lot of force to disrupt magnetic forces.

And that's not even my point, thor and hulk have the feats. I'm talkin about hurting, not beating doomsday! They need BFR for that.

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@drpepperman:it was coupled with other metals with vibranium in a much lower percentage and doomsday is already far more durable than vibranium is

it would take electricity the overload the core and disrupt the artificial magnetic field.

If superman and diana couldn't hurt doomsday and they are so much more powerful than these guys, hulk and thor stand no chance. i mean it only took 2 hits from kurse to stomp thor and doomsday is so much more stronger than kurse is and there's the nosebleed he got from hulk

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it was still coupled with other metals as you said.

Yep.

It would take a lot of force to disrupt magnetic forces.

Yep.

And that's not even my point, thor and hulk have the feats.

Not saying no.

I'm talkin about hurting, not beating doomsday! They need BFR for that.

That's the problem they don't have any feats to suggest that they can BFR Doomsday to space.

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@DammeFavour: hm. You have a point. But I still feel full power hulk or thor can at least hurt him a little.

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@nightmare52: easy. Get him in the air, Wanda TKs him, vision and thor push him the rest of the way (maybe not vis, but Thor's hammer traveled to space in seconds, so he definitely can)

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@nightmare52: easy.

It's not.

Get him in the air,

which is impossible.

Wanda TKs him,

last time Wanda tried to contain a explosion she was barely able to lift above a building.

vision and thor push him the rest of the way

Neither of them had strength or speed to do it.

(maybe not vis, but Thor's hammer traveled to space in seconds, so he definitely can)

Thor's retrieving speed >>>>>>>>>>> Thor's traveling speed.

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@nightmare52: it is doe.

Have doomsday chase someone through the air.

Doesn't have to push him that far, just push him with all she has.

Not vision, but thor maybe.

Then thor can throw his hammer at DD at full power so DD is in space

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@drpepperman:

the only thing that damaged krytp metal was krytponians and the pull of a black hole ( which sup escaped from)

sup even weakened by krypt, broke through it while confronting lex.

wanda was not a newbie when she failed to contain a minor explosion. why lie? she clearly practiced combat maneuvers with captain america.

again.

cinematic feats show iron monger, extremists and falling cars damaged iron man far more than thor with his hammer.

fiora is stronger than mcu hulk. period.

she throws superman with far greater force than an enraged hulk throwing a engine.

she throws a heavier water tanker with much greater force than a enraged hulk throwing a van.

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Ehh still Doomsday, anything they do would just empower him.

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Why hasn't this been locked yet? Superman would destroy in this scenario, doomsday is way too much

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Doomsday stomps

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Doomsday murderstomps

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Doomsday wins.

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Hawkeye solos with a Ant-man arrow.

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Doomsday curbs

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Doomsday stomps

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#340  Edited By vj21oq

@billybickle: you are seriously underestimating doomsday's durability, not even a nuclear bomb was able to leave a scratch on him, what can antman do? even if he enters doomsday body he will only die

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@vj21oq: He can shrink doomsday to subatomic levels

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Doomsday.

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#343  Edited By vj21oq

@thanosii: no he can't skrink doomsday,yes antman can shrink to subatomic levels, but i don't think that will have any effect as doomsday has very good healing factor, l don't think that antman even harm doomsday from inside as he is extremely durable.

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thanosii, i think ant man shrinking to sub-atomic level was psi , how did he survived without oxygen?

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Doomsday, and easily.

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thor or hulk solo

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Why bump this ?

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Still doomsday solos.

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Doomsday lol curbs.

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If BFR is allowed, Avengers win, If not they would need some kryptonite to kill him, which they don't have lying around. If he had more normal vulnerabilities, yeah, I would simply side with vision. Come to think of it, neither vision nor Doomsday could technically kill each other there (if he is out of phase, or decides to stay that way around him), and it could be stalemate. But with BFR, Doomsday suffers the fate that Superman was doing to him that the military so stupidly fired a nuke to when he was just about to save the day. And for some reason, never got the idea to try again with... Or even better, BFRed to the microverse courtesy of Ant-Man.