DCEU Doomsday runs the one shot gauntlet

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Poll DCEU Doomsday runs the one shot gauntlet (63 votes)

Quicksilver miraculously survives via quantum immortality 46%
Wanda survives somehow 2%
Black Panther absorbs it 6%
Hulk survives 10%
Thanos survives (barely) 2%
Wonder Woman smiles 11%
Cap no sells 0%
Karathen-level Aquaman laughs 0%
Iron Man survives with some damage 5%
Stops at Superman 6%
Tickles Thor 0%
Thanos tanks 3%
Clears even the bonus 6%
Clears but not the bonus 3%

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  • DD can use both heat vision and a punch or kick once per round (so either HV/Punch or HV/Kick) - no arm spikes obviously
  • No dodging in any way
  • DD must kill the street tiers, but only has to KO the high/mid tiers
  • Armor but no blocking unless specified

Gauntlet

  1. FOX Quicksilver
  2. EG Scarlet Witch
  3. Nanosuit Black Panther
  4. Crippled Hulk
  5. Crippled Thanos
  6. BvS Wonder Woman
  7. Captain America with shield
  8. Aquaman Aquaman
  9. Nanosuit Iron Man
  10. JL Superman
  11. IW Thor
  12. EG Thanos

Bonus: Unadapted Zod, Faora, and Nam Ek - all of them with just one punch

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#1  Edited By nn5

Quicksilver & Scarlet Witch get killed, Black Panther KO'd or killed, Wonder Woman and Aquaman perhaps KO'd if they can't use gear.

Everyone is hurt but I doubt that KO'd/killed.

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What he said ^^

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Bruh a single hit isn't enough to kill EG Hulk. He's strong AF

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Clears 1-3. May stop at 4 or 5. Should stop at 6. Could beat 7. Should stop at 8 or 9. Hard stop 10-12.

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#6  Edited By takenstew22  Moderator

Probably stops at 6.

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Captain America is wayyy too High. Thanos and Thor need to be below Superman quite frankly. Stops at 10, he's not KOing Superman with just those, he got up from his heat vision like it was nothing and took a kick pretty well and hypersonic punch all in BvS.

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#9  Edited By Apostles

@crunch5481 said:

Captain America is wayyy too High. Thanos and Thor need to be below Supermanquite frankly. Stops at 10, he's not KOing Superman with just those, he got up from his heat vision like it was nothing and took a kick pretty well and hypersonic punch all in BvS.

Star neutron beam >>>> Nuke.

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@apostles said:
@crunch5481 said:

Captain America is wayyy too High. Thanos and Thor need to be below Supermanquite frankly. Stops at 10, he's not KOing Superman with just those, he got up from his heat vision like it was nothing and took a kick pretty well and hypersonic punch all in BvS.

Star neutron beam >>>> Nuke.

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First of all, it isn't.

Second, it's only a heat/energy durability feat.

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#11  Edited By LorenzoDeSila

Thor above JL Supermam... I would like to be able to block some people's threads.

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Out of order

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#13  Edited By cromulor

A single attack isn’t killing Hulk. That’s funny

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Stops at 4 Hulk even with one arm isnt going down to two hits lol.

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Why is Thanos above Superman?

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Stops at Superman but one shots Thor and Thanos.

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@yamiyodare: @lorenzodesila: Don't think Superman has tanked hits like these

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First off, Thor didn't take those. He literally just survived them until his healing factor kicked in.

Second, Superman has survived a nuke until his healing factor (the sun) kicked in.

In pretty close circumstances, Clark is clearly superior in durability. Hulk doesn't come close to the force of a nuke even if he threw 100 punches, and Clark's body survived that.

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@thespartanb345t: If we're gonna count energy feats, I think the MCU has DCEU beat

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Thor was at the top, Iron Man was at the bottom. But as far as pure blunt force feats go, I can't recall Superman ever taking a serious beatdown from anyone.

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If we are counting energy feats as factors then Thor is definitely above Superman in durability, and Thanos is superior to Thor, regardless DD would stop at Cap or Iron Man.

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#21  Edited By TheSpartanB345T

@thespartanb345t: If we're gonna count energy feats, I think the MCU has DCEU beat

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Thor was at the top, Iron Man was at the bottom. But as far as pure blunt force feats go, I can't recall Superman ever taking a serious beatdown from anyone.

First off, the "city-busting" thing has been debunked a ton of times, the vibranium played a huge factor.

Second, you do realize that nukes have seriously high levels of force involved, right? A 1 kiloton nuke has 10,000,000,000,000,000 Newtons of force behind it. That's quadrillions of times more powerful than a bullet.

And a nuke is way hotter than even Thor's star feat, tbh. 100,000,000 degrees Kelvin at point-blank range, that's 179,999,540 degrees F or 99,999,726.85 C, or 6 times hotter than the sun's core.

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@thespartanb345t: I never even implied Thor busted Sokovia in the post

Okay, Thor didn't take a bullet in the gif. He tanked force great enough to vaporize 2km of land. Nukes have a lot of force, but some people generally place it exclusively as energy feat, some don't

Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't nukes only that hot for like a millionth of a second? Even humans can survive lightning since it only makes contact for a brief time. Thor took the star beam for an extended amount of time

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#23  Edited By Nucleon

@thespartanb345t: Then why did WWII ships survived a direct hit at the Bikini Atoll tests?

Why can you protect yourself against the primary effect of a nuke by digging a hole in your backyard?

Instead of focusing on astronomically nerdish numbers, you should first learn what a nuke is, in relation with, say, armor-piercing weapons.

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Then why did WWII ships survived a direct hit at the Bikini Atoll tests?

They didn't survive a direct hit, because no known material on Earth can survive a direct hit from a nuke. I'm not aware of what you're talking about regarding the Atoll tests, so until you link a source explaining what you mean that's definitely wrong. Sure, the ships could have been on the same island but anything directly hit by a nuke turns into plasma, so there's no way the ship was directly hit. It was probably a mile or so away, and considering how fast the force and heat dissipate as distance increases, that's a huge difference.

Why can you protect yourself against the primary effect of a nuke by digging a hole in your backyard?

Okay, you're blatantly ignoring context at this point. The blast wave of a nuke (which you can protect yourself from if you have a bunker) isn't the primary effect at close range. If you are miles away from the nuke you might survive if you have an actual basement or bunker, and a basement would probably not even safe you from death.

Instead of focusing on astronomically nerdishnumbers,

Real-life figures? There isn't another way to quantify a nuke, because the point-blank power of a nuke isn't comparable to any material on Earth; it would destroy anything it touched.

you should first learn what a nuke is, in relation with, say, armor-piercing weapons.

This is pretty ironic, considering that you claimed that you can survive a nuke if you dig a hole in your backyard. Extreme hyperbole or not, you're blatantly lowballing or just ignorant of the topic entirely. A nuke at point-blank range turns objects to plasma. That's vaporizing something. It's just gone. And the force of a nuke would also tear somebody apart at a molecularlevel if they were at a point-blank range to it.

Armor-piercing weapons would never even scratch something dense enough to survive a nuke.

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#25  Edited By TheSpartanB345T

@kryptonianking88:

I never even implied Thor busted Sokovia in the post

Fair, but it still affects durability as well. The force isn't what is vaporizing it, the temperature of the lightning combined with the vibranium spreading it across the landmass that is falling apart (the magnetic field broke so it would crumble into many small pieces) and the "heat seal" that keeps the lightning circulating enough to destroy it is what led to it vaporizing.

Okay, Thor didn't take a bullet in the gif. He tanked force great enough to vaporize 2km of land. Nukes have a lot of force, but some people generally place it exclusively as energy feat, some don't

Yeah, I'm sure that there was a lot of force involved, but the vaporization was probably because of the lightning's heat (which is basically the sun's surface and then some) circulating for an extended amount of time over Tony's heat seal.

Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't nukes only that hot for like a millionth of a second?

Yes, but that doesn't take away from the durability feat at all. If Superman could survive that (even for a short time) without being vaporizing or charred at all then he's pretty damn durable. The heat also travels fast enough to affect anything within the immediate radius and completely vaporize it, so the heat still had to touch Doomsday and Clark, even if it was for a brief second.

Even humans can survive lightning since it only makes contact for a brief time.

That's different. Lightning travels through a person until it reaches an insulator. That's why a lightning rod doesn't burn either, even if it was being hit by that heat for a longer time; the lightning just passes through and really doesn't burn. A nuke would travel through someone, and I mean by burning through them. If the person survived that for a brief second, they just proved that they could survive extreme heat levels just because of how durable they are.

Thor took the star beam for an extended amount of time

Yeah, that's not really quantifiable. The "full force" of a star is a dumb statement because if it really was the full force then it would have made the star disappear (since it exerted all the energy that it could) and there's no way to know how hot the beam was. I'm not saying you're saying that, but it's worth mentioning. A good assumption is the surface of the neutron star, which is 6,000,000 or so degrees kelvin. That's probably as impressive (energy-wise, there wasn't much force itself behind the beam) as a nuke, but that also is assuming that it is a neutron star, and it doesn't act like a real neutron star at all.

So I don't think it is a quantifiable feat, but I always logically say that Thor would no-sell most heat-related things because of it.

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#26  Edited By Nucleon

@thespartanb345t: They didn't survive a direct hit, because no known material on Earth can survive a direct hit from a nuke. I'm not aware of what you're talking about regarding the Atoll tests, so until you link a source explaining what you mean that's definitely wrong. Sure, the ships could have been on the same island but anything directly hit by a nuke turns into plasma, so there's no way the ship was directly hit. It was probably a mile or so away, and considering how fast the force and heat dissipate as distance increases, that's a huge difference.

Operation Crossroad...

"... consisted of two detonations, each with a yield of 23 kt (96 tj). Able was detonated over Bikini on July 1, 1946 and exploded at an altitude of 520 ft (160 m), it but was dropped by aircraft about 1,500 to 2,000 ft (460 to 610 m) off target. It sank only five of the ships in the lagoon. Baker was detonated underwater at a depth of 90 ft (27 m) on July 25, sinking eight ships. The second underwater blast created a large condensation cloud and contaminated the ships with more radioactive water than was expected. Many of the surviving ships were too contaminated to be used again for testing and were sunk."

There were 95 test ships, only 13 of them sunk as a result of the blasts. Here are some of them, clearly visible in the blast:

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Okay, you're blatantly ignoring context at this point. The blast wave of a nuke (which you can protect yourself from if you have a bunker) isn't the primary effect at close range. If you are miles away from the nuke you might survive if you have an actual basement or bunker, and a basement would probably not even safe you from death.

Resisting the primary effects of a nuke is rather easy: It's the fallout that becomes a problem for the survivors.

Real-life figures? There isn't another way to quantify a nuke, because the point-blank power of a nuke isn't comparable to any material on Earth; it would destroy anything it touched.

You used astronomically high numbers to amaze an delight your interlocutor while dropping about 50% of the necessary data for comprehension.

This is pretty ironic, considering that you claimed that you can survive a nuke if you dig a hole in your backyard. Extreme hyperbole or not, you're blatantly lowballing or just ignorant of the topic entirely. A nuke at point-blank range turns objects to plasma. That's vaporizing something. It's just gone. And the force of a nuke would also tear somebody apart at a molecularlevel if they were at a point-blank range to it.

Armor-piercing weapons would never even scratch something dense enough to survive a nuke.

That's anything. You should have done some research before posting this, don't you think?

Nukes are of the "High Explosive" (HE) sort of damage: That type of damage is omnidirectional, meaning that it goes in all direction at once. What makes a nuke is the exceptional wield, not necessarly it's power, furthermore against armored targets.

"Armor Piercing" (AP) damage, on the other hand, focuses power into opening the armor, then "spits" its charge (which can be nuclear) in it, bypassing it. A bunker will protect you against a nuke, but not against a bunker-buster charge.

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@nn5 said:

Quicksilver & Scarlet Witch get killed, Black Panther KO'd or killed, Wonder Woman and Aquaman perhaps KO'd if they can't use gear.

Everyone is hurt but I doubt that KO'd/killed.

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Thermal radiation disappears in space, which is because the blast force disappears. Starfish is way above the disappearing threshold. BvS Minuteman (I think that's the only one in commission?) warhead explosion is way above the Starfish threshold line. Washington was mapping it the whole time. Good thing for DCEU Supes is that makes it a tremendously higher radiation feat. He got a poison cocktail many, many times more intense than at the surface. Apparently he can't metabolize that stuff, though.

Thor's feat was either a plain normal neutron star, which can be the same thing as the core of a dead star, aka dying star, or it means that the beam came from the core of the neutron star, since "heart of a dying star" is stressed across like, 2 different MCU movies. Plus, there's the superfluids before they go into the SB mold, and that stuff is in the core of Neutron stars.

It doesn't act like a neutron star because of the gravity manipulating rings that draw the beam out and the cover over it. That's just how the dyson sphere rolls. The star is inside it, which makes it look not real, but real stars exist inside the spheres - that's the only reason they exist, and VFX confirms IIRC.

As for Sokovia, Tony's heat seal was legit there for a second. It just made the reaction of Thor's energy input into Sokovia double back - Thor's responsible for the cracks and prolly the destruction of the top at best. Independently, Thor doesn't need Vibranium to spread an AoE out, Jotunheim feat script confirms.

0.125x speed, 9.90, is where the bottom end of the spire lights up and the final blast practically obliterates the mass.

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@kryptonianking88 said:

@thespartanb345t: If we're gonna count energy feats, I think the MCU has DCEU beat

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Thor was at the top, Iron Man was at the bottom. But as far as pure blunt force feats go, I can't recall Superman ever taking a serious beatdown from anyone.

Here is the impact that belongs to Thor without debate.

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Clark hasn't been hit with a blow of that magnitude.

Independently, the Sokovia and vibranium debate doesn't matter - energy is conserved regardless, and it is just a matter of Thor's energy potency.

The fact that when it busted Sokovia when getting dispersed across it means it's even greater energy magnitude to a smaller Surface Area/Volume of effect.

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@apostles: Thor couldn't even tank a ball to his head.

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#32  Edited By Apostles

@wot_m8: Lois lane can kill kryptonians .

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@apostles: With Kryptonian weapons in a Kryptonian ship where they have human level strength.

Thor at full power can't tank a ball to the head.

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#34  Edited By Apostles

@wot_m8: Ragnarok thor without weapon if he get stormbreaker he will is immortal.

ball can't hurt IW thor.

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@apostles: Thor is not immortal. Thanos almost killed him. Not to mention as I said, Thor is ball level. God of "Thunder" couldn't even tank an electric shock

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#36  Edited By Apostles

@wot_m8: Stormbreaker and mjolnir have amp healing factor and increase durability.

Stop use ragnarok thor he no have amp weapon and is the weakest version.

IW thor >>> Avenger thor >>> Ragnarok thor.

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#37  Edited By Wot_m8

@apostles: No, Odin said all Thor's power is his own, not the Hammers.

Odin's word>> Your word.

Also, Ball> Thor.

So, he is still ball level.

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#38  Edited By Apostles

@wot_m8: Kryptonian get hurt by bullet and Hulk can tanking it by not pain.

Thor >>> Hulk >>> Kryptonians.

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@apostles: On what basis is Thor> Hulk? Also why do you keep ignoring the fact that a Ball knocked Star level Thor down?

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@wot_m8: Ball-level Thor, now I've heard it all.

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#41  Edited By Apostles

@wot_m8: Superman can't stop the train and Thor can stop it.

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@apostles: Concession accepted then. Ball level Thor loses.

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@kryptonianking88: What can I say? When Star Level Thor can't tank a Ball that means either of two things... One the Ball is Universal buster or two Thor is ball level.

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Why are Captain America and Aquaman that high up the ladder?

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#45  Edited By Apostles

@wot_m8: Please stop stupid in topic OP use IW thor is star level >>>level nuke superman die horribly.

It not a composite Thor so no include ragnarok's feat.

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Gauntlet

  1. FOX Quicksilver
  2. EG Scarlet Witch
  3. Nanosuit Black Panther
  4. Crippled Hulk
  5. Crippled Thanos
  6. BvS Wonder Woman
  7. Captain America with shield
  8. Aquaman Aquaman
  9. Nanosuit Iron Man
  10. JL Superman
  11. IW Thor ( You see or no it is a Infinity war not a ragnarok )
  12. EG Thanos
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@wot_m8: Superman lose so please stop lowball.

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@apostles: That's not how composite works. Concession accepted btw. Ball level Thor dies.

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@wot_m8: DCEU superman is fodder he can't lift hammer.

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@apostles: Top tier debating. Making random gifs coz you can't refute why a Ball took down Thor. Concession accepted. You lose.