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#1 Posted by tj849 (4136 posts) - - Show Bio

  • Post nuke Doomsday
  • Everyones bloodlusted
  • Doomsday is not healed after every round, just keeps on going.

1. Lizard (Amazing Spiderman 1)

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2. Full Charged Electro (Amazing Spiderman 2)

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3. Deadpool Trinity + Angel Dust

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4. CW Firestorm

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5. MCU Hulk

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6. DCEU Faora

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7. FOX Apocalypse

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#2 Posted by BabyDarkseid (1907 posts) - - Show Bio

clears effortlessly

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#3 Posted by APEX_pretador (14319 posts) - - Show Bio

FOX Surfer planetbusts him

Also, Hulk should be above Faora

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#5 Posted by APEX_pretador (14319 posts) - - Show Bio

@tj849 said:

@apex_pretador: No way in hell. Faora smacks him.

Hulk punched out a 1000 ton leviathan which was going through skyscrapers like they were made of tissue paper. He also pulled one down without anything to brace against.

Faora didn't do anything on this level. She's just slightly faster.

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#6 Edited by DammeFavour (5352 posts) - - Show Bio

@apex_pretador: lol no

OT: only problem is silver surfer and he gets beaten without his planet busting stuff

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#7 Edited by tj849 (4136 posts) - - Show Bio

@apex_pretador: Faora is the 2nd most powerful kryptonian in zods squad. People say nam-ek slaughters hulk.

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#8 Posted by Batman242 (7967 posts) - - Show Bio

You should've added Kurse.

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#9 Posted by DammeFavour (5352 posts) - - Show Bio

@tj849: lol.....he said slightly faster

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#10 Posted by BladeOfFury (2682 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at surfer.

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#12 Edited by tj849 (4136 posts) - - Show Bio

@DammeFavour said:

@tj849: lol.....he said slightly faster

lmao, hulk would struggle to even tag faora.

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#13 Posted by Thoromdil (1135 posts) - - Show Bio

if BFR is not allowed he clears, if it's allowed he gets BFRd by Surfer and probably Apocalypse too, if he will use TK right.

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#14 Posted by APEX_pretador (14319 posts) - - Show Bio

@tj849 said:

@apex_pretador: Faora is the 2nd most powerful kryptonian in their squad. People say nam-ek slaughters hulk.

Faora is the least powerful kryptonian, below Doomsday, Clark, Zod and Nam-Ek respectively.

Faora was taken out by a missile. Now, before someone jumps on me and says "hey, sensory overload" remember that Zod also got his mask broken, faced sensory overload and actually recived several punches from enraged Superman to his face. Still, he was good as new, infact even better, in like 10 minutes, while Faora was out cold for the entire movie, it and even forced Nam-ek out of the battle to take care of Faora (even though Nam-Ek was doing pretty well against Clark).

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#15 Posted by Batman242 (7967 posts) - - Show Bio

@tj849 said:

@apex_pretador: Faora is the 2nd most powerful kryptonian in their squad. People say nam-ek slaughters hulk.

Faora is the least powerful kryptonian, below Doomsday, Clark, Zod and Nam-Ek respectively.

Faora was taken out by a missile. Now, before someone jumps on me and says "hey, sensory overload" remember that Zod also got his mask broken, faced sensory overload and actually recived several punches from enraged Superman to his face. Still, he was good as new, infact even better, in like 10 minutes, while Faora was out cold for the entire movie, it and even forced Nam-ek out of the battle to take care of Faora (even though Nam-Ek was doing pretty well against Clark).

You should rewatch that film, then. You have multiple scenes misconstrued.

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#16 Posted by All-Father (4672 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at Surfer

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#17 Posted by webinyoureye11 (2653 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at 7

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#18 Posted by Batman242 (7967 posts) - - Show Bio

As far as I remember, Silver Surfer needed a plot device to be taken out.

Doomsday can't get beyond that and Surfer can't kill him.

Stops at 8.

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#19 Posted by DammeFavour (5352 posts) - - Show Bio

@apex_pretador: lol.....where do u get all these 'facts' from?

she was taken out by sensory overload, we saw zod rolling on the floor struggling to get up because of all the sound and images. if zod was on the verge of passing out because of traffic miles away, imagine having a missile blow up in her face, and she received absolutely no damage from it, no scratches, nothing. zod was down immediately his mask ruptured, he didn't fight clark after that.

lol.....we see faora on the black zero in metropolis....lol for the entire movie

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#20 Posted by cosmic_reign (1786 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at 7

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#21 Posted by APEX_pretador (14319 posts) - - Show Bio
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#22 Posted by dcuwins (156 posts) - - Show Bio

@apex_pretador:

false

hulk throws an engine block with far less force and distance than fiora throwing superman.

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fiora threw superman so hard he busted up a nuke proof safe.

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" she grabbed onto him and hurled him through 2 full blocks of solid brick and concrete buildings. only the reinforced steel door of the kaNSAS national bank main vault arrested his momentum."

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per man of steel offical novel , the maverick missile did zero damage to her. it was the sensory overload.

pg 229

" the faceless brute helped the disorientated female into the ship."

fiora is stronger than mcu hulk. period. and she would only be stronger without her suit.

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#23 Posted by APEX_pretador (14319 posts) - - Show Bio

@dcuwins: LMAO you're using 2008 hulk as an evidence like it means anything. Ofcourse faora is stronger than that version of hulk.

" she grabbed onto him and hurled him through 2 full blocks of solid brick and concrete buildings. only the reinforced steel door of the kaNSAS national bank main vault arrested his momentum."

Leviathan>>>Reinforced steel>Her throw>Concrete

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#24 Posted by BabyDarkseid (1907 posts) - - Show Bio
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#25 Edited by deactivated-59d51c127082b (81 posts) - - Show Bio

Surfer beats him. With ease.

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#26 Edited by APEX_pretador (14319 posts) - - Show Bio

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@apex_pretador: 2008 hulk is part of the mcu

He's infinitely weaker. He couldn't even beat Abomination. Current Hulk would sneeze Abomination out of existence. It's like using a kryptonite weakened superman as evidence "Hey, he got ragdolled by batfleck so Thor eats Superman alive"

2008 Hulk - gets hurt by regular gunfire, chokes abomination with steel chain, struggles to lift a jeep

Ruffalo hulk - Punches a 2 ton ultron miles away, punches and stops a 1000 ton leviathan, punches thor and hurts him, punches hulkbuster resulting in a massive shockwave, casually throws a tank after lifting it overhead

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#27 Posted by samconery (1716 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at 7

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#28 Posted by BabyDarkseid (1907 posts) - - Show Bio
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#29 Posted by APEX_pretador (14319 posts) - - Show Bio

@apex_pretador: still canon to mcu though

Just like batfleck beating superman is canon to DCEU

MCU Thor >>>>>> Cap >>>> Batflek >> DCEU Superman confirmed by your logic

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#30 Posted by DammeFavour (5352 posts) - - Show Bio
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#31 Posted by Batman242 (7967 posts) - - Show Bio

@apex_pretador: that is literally not how his logic plays out

His point is those feats for Hulk are irrelevant since he's gotten a lot better ever since.

It's like those arguments that Thor would KO Clark easily because of what Faora and Nam-Ek did and ignoring the fact that he got better IN THE SAME FILM.

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#32 Posted by deltahuman (1758 posts) - - Show Bio

@apex_pretador: Sorry but I had to respond to you. You are baselessly coughing up numbers. How can you assume Ultron is 2 ton? Was it explicitly stated in the movie? Did I miss anything? And the space whale in Avengers is 1000 ton? really? It fell on a overpass full of cars and the overpass was fine. One of those things also fell on the top of a high rise and the floor didn't collapse. The space whales can't be more than 200-300 tons. They were made of pretty durable metals though.

On topic, Doomsday stops at Apocalypse if he doesn't forget that he has matter manipulation abilities that can vaporize a city and telekinesis rather just standing there with his shields up. Or else Doomsday stops at Surfer. Surfer didn't have much feats but the end planet busting feat is enough.

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#33 Posted by The_Red_Devil (1222 posts) - - Show Bio

Surfer planet busts him.

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#34 Posted by DammeFavour (5352 posts) - - Show Bio

@batman242: see my problem with that is that the hulk vs abomination fight is the only fight really comparable to the one against hulkbuster. the only feat out of place is the leviathan one. compare:

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#35 Edited by APEX_pretador (14319 posts) - - Show Bio

@deltahuman:

@apex_pretador:

Sorry but I had to respond to you. You are baselessly coughing up numbers. How can you assume Ultron is 2 ton? Was it explicitly stated in the movie?

No it wasn't stated in the movie, but Ultron is over 10 feet tall. Once I did run the numbers with Titanium's density and it came out to be around 2 tons.

Did I miss anything? And the space whale in Avengers is 1000 ton? really?

Well, it is like 5-6 times larger than a blue whale (they weight 100-120 tonnes), and is made of a metal (atleast has a metal armor all over itself). I've seen fan calcs putting them at 1500 tons.

It fell on a overpass full of cars and the overpass was fine. One of those things also fell on the top of a high rise and the floor didn't collapse.

Large volume of those things allow for a good distribution of pressure. The building roofs are made to withstand high pressures. Plus most buildings weight more than 1000 tons, and the lower floors withstand the weight of higher floors.

It is the same logic how people can sleep on a bed of sharp arrows, but a single arrow will kill them and go through them.

The space whales can't be more than 200-300 tons. They were made of pretty durable metals though.

Their armor alone should weight atleast as much as that, and we do know that chitauri whales are living organisms so they can't be empty inside.

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#36 Edited by Batman242 (7967 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes and even then 2008 Hulk was repeatedly dazed by a lot less than the other has. The only argument I can see that truly could carry over is Abom piercing Hulk as we don't know the density of Abom's bones.

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#38 Posted by ThunderPrince (2940 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at 7.

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#39 Posted by Supermanforever (2951 posts) - - Show Bio

FOX Surfer planetbusts him

Also, Hulk should be above Faora

This

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#40 Posted by TheDeathstroke (1478 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at 7

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#41 Posted by Supermanforever (2951 posts) - - Show Bio

@tj849 said:

@apex_pretador: Faora is the 2nd most powerful kryptonian in zods squad. People say nam-ek slaughters hulk.

Fully adapted kryptonians would probably beat Hulk. Not masked ones like Kurse or Faora, hulk has more than enough power to break their mask and when the mask breaks they will fall down and be kod, then Hulk will just beat the shit out of them. We have never seen fully adapted Faora and the things she has shown is not enough to beat Hulk down to ko. People who claim Namek would take down probably think Nam Ek is Superman level which is not true. They are not capable of flying, not capable of using Supermans versatility and they have not shown anywhere near Superman level of feats. Best feat for namek was like throwing like 200 ton locomotive long distance. I dont see such feats beeing enough to beat hulk down.

In short Nam ek or faora are not capable of putting Hulk down until he breaks their mask.

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#42 Posted by APEX_pretador (14319 posts) - - Show Bio

Fully adapted kryptonians would probably beat Hulk. Not masked ones like Kurse or Faora, hulk has more than enough power to break their mask and when the mask breaks they will fall down and be kod, then Hulk will just beat the shit out of them. We have never seen fully adapted Faora and the things she has shown is not enough to beat Hulk down to ko. People who claim Namek would take down probably think Nam Ek is Superman level which is not true. They are not capable of flying, not capable of using Supermans versatility and they have not shown anywhere near Superman level of feats. Best feat for namek was like throwing like 200 ton locomotive long distance. I dont see such feats beeing enough to beat hulk down.

In short Nam ek or faora are not capable of putting Hulk down until he breaks their mask.

Agreed

Zod would beat hulk, Clark would rekt him and doomsday would smash him, but he can take faora or nam-ek 1v1 (not that it will be easy).

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#43 Edited by DammeFavour (5352 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanforever: lol.....nam-ek already has much better strength feats and durability than hulk and kurse and he's masked and these guys were capable of hurting superman

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#44 Posted by deltahuman (1758 posts) - - Show Bio

@apex_pretador:

Correction: They released a pictorial before Avengers age of Ultron released. Hulk was shown to be 8ft 5 inch. Ultron was 8 ft. Hulkbuster was probably 11ft. Don't remember that correctly. I don't think Ultron even weighs 1 ton. Recall how Howard stark described Vibranium in the MCU. Stronger than steel and a third it's weight. That's why it's so special. Strong but very less weight. So I think that seals the deal here.

Also you can't compare sizes and estimate weight. Comparing the space whales to blue whales is a terrible idea since they won't have the same density or be made of the same materials. The space whale was hollow. Tony stark flew through it. It was a mode of air transport for the chitauris. Now think what kinda stuff air transports are made of. Aluminum alloy. Strong yet extremely light. The chitauri metal was probably something similar, just a hell lot stronger than Aluminum alloy. That should also explain why the overpass didn't collapse or the roof of the high rise.

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#45 Posted by dcuwins (156 posts) - - Show Bio

@apex_pretador:

fail

1) reinforced bank vault in mos is nuke proof. mosler safes in the fourties survived nagasaki blast.

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2) hulk never punctured through the levitahen. he struck the nerve ending and his fist never went through. sup while weakened busted through zod ship to confront lex.

hulk with two arms couldnt puncture through. that debunks you easily.

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3) leviathen is nowhere near 1000 tons. it didnt destroy the bridge or a nyc taxi cab. it doesnt even pop the tires. lmao

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4) even current feats hulk pales to any krytpnian.

an enraged hulk kicks a van with far less force than zod kicks a far heavier double tanker

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an enraged hulk throws a car with far less than fiora throws a heavier water tanker.

5) nothing hurt krytponian metal except a krytponian and the pull of a black hole ( which mos escaped from)

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6) an enranged hulk strikes ultron from a higher point and the impact is far less than superman striking namek ( which derailed 3 multi ton linked trains)

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fiora is easily stronger than mcu hulk ( and she only gets stronger without the suit)

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#46 Edited by uugieboogie (12196 posts) - - Show Bio

That’s definitely academic lmao

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#47 Posted by Supermanforever (2951 posts) - - Show Bio

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Fully adapted kryptonians would probably beat Hulk. Not masked ones like Kurse or Faora, hulk has more than enough power to break their mask and when the mask breaks they will fall down and be kod, then Hulk will just beat the shit out of them. We have never seen fully adapted Faora and the things she has shown is not enough to beat Hulk down to ko. People who claim Namek would take down probably think Nam Ek is Superman level which is not true. They are not capable of flying, not capable of using Supermans versatility and they have not shown anywhere near Superman level of feats. Best feat for namek was like throwing like 200 ton locomotive long distance. I dont see such feats beeing enough to beat hulk down.

In short Nam ek or faora are not capable of putting Hulk down until he breaks their mask.

Agreed

Zod would beat hulk, Clark would rekt him and doomsday would smash him, but he can take faora or nam-ek 1v1 (not that it will be easy).

To me actually it would be one shot, the fight would take longer because faora was pretty fast. However Hulk has decent striking feats to one shot faoras or Nam Eks mask. Superman never really attempted to break their mask, it only broke because Superman bullrushed him. Hulks leviathan feat would be enough to one shot, although imo that wasnt even Hulks full potential.

However anyoen saying Namek or faora winning is just fanboyism, maybe by assumptions that they are kryptonians so they could win. But not via feats atleasrt.

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#48 Posted by BabyDarkseid (1907 posts) - - Show Bio

@apex_pretador: lol how does that correlate to anything i said? 2008 is part of mcu is it not or are you denying it?

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#49 Posted by Supermanforever (2951 posts) - - Show Bio

@dcuwins: ou are comparing Superman feats to Faoras which is false. She has throwng Superman into that vault. Yeah good feats, but thats nowhere near enough to beat hulk. And she will just fall down when her mask breaks.

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#50 Edited by Supermanforever (2951 posts) - - Show Bio

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@supermanforever: lol.....nam-ek already has much better strength feats and durability than hulk and kurse and he's masked and these guys were capable of hurting superman

His best feat is throwing 200 ton locomotive which is not putting hulk down, also thats a lifting strenght feat not striking. Namek was nowhere near Superman level. Superman rekt him with ease despite beeing outnumbered and half of Nam eks size.