DCEU Doomsday cant put MCU Hulk down, in what world he does that? MCU Hulk breakdown

Hela struggle to break concrete too

Asgardian concrete**

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@ourmanuel: If Asgardian metal is so much stronger than Earth metal, why can't Asgardian concrete be much stronger than Earth concrete?

My god detectives bait has attracted all the other bait

Is asgardian bread also harder than irl bread?

@ourmanuel: It's possible, we don't know.

Do you agree that it's possible for a civilization centuries ahead of us in technology to have sturdier building material, when we know for a fact that they use much sturdier metal?

Wouldn't it have to be stronger than Uru tho? Seeing as Hela struggled way less to break Mjolnir whilst only using her grip.

@boc: Yeah but Oat wouldn't have thought of that...

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DD is still > Hulk. Hasn't changed, and never will.

This combo bait oneshotted me irl

Not really. 2,000 year old roman concrete still standing today, whilst modern housing/apartment buildings lucky to survive 50 years. Even after 10 years, visual signs of wear/tear are evidently clear.

Diminishing returns pretty much sums it up.

@d2therj: I said possible, which it definitely is. But not to the extent it was shown lol

@death4bunnies said:

@hermes1220:

No issue with scaling, tho it does seem unfairly applied.

In this case where DD and Superman are both kryptonians and matched eachother I think scaling is especially fair.

Then why bring up the issue in the first place? i can only think of one reason. I’d rather not say.

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Like DD's Heatvision directly matched Supermans heat vision.

So I think thats a uber fair scaling comparison.

They also matched strength, and have a shared durability feat....fair.

Refer to the previous response.

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Let me ask you this, how do you think Spiderman scales to Cull?

I don’t mind. He’s matched him twice so I don‘t mind. Cull was said to be HI’ll level. Feats suggest otherwise, so we can’t scale Peter to Hulk we can scale to Cull.

Or further yet, how does Spiderman scale to hulkbuster.

Tbf, we never really see how HB matches up against Cull.

Further yet, how does Spiderman scale to Hulk.

He doesn’t. But he’s somewhere around him, albeit weaker.

Spiderman directly matched Cull in strength, and when it was called a outlier after IW, they had him do it again in EG.

^^^^ I think this kinda scaling is a bit broken.

Why? Isn‘t it the very same scaling you used in your CaV and have used in other debates? So you can’t think it’s too broken I’m assuming. Unless it‘s to support your argument here.

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Or Cap to Ultron, or scaling to Thor.

I dont think we can look at Thors best hit, and say thats what Hulk took.

No one does that (or at least I don’t). Nor does it apply to this debate.

Or say that Thor took 15 glacier busting punches from Hulk.

That feat isn’t valid.

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I have zero problem with scaling, but I do think standalone feats are better.

Yet again you go back to what YOU think should be the case. You discount feats because they have scaling involved? Scaling is literally how we deduce that one character can’t do another feat because they are weaker because of scaling. You’d have to discount over ten feats with your logic off the top of my head.

Like Superman flew through a mountain, im 100% confident that he could again.

DD probably can fly through a mountain, im like 99% sure he can based of Superman scaling.

But the actually doing the feat seems better then facing someone who can do the feat.

This is a terrible example because at their base they are the same species.

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IDK seems there is a bit of context, but I agree DD scales pretty well to Pre-JL Superman.

It's also entirely possible that entirety of the MCU up-until this point was just a dream in Deadpools head. I mean, whilst we're speculating and all.

Disagree, 1/5th as strong as DD?

I dont know where these numbers come from, but its odd scaling to say the least.

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Like Superman headbutted her with 2/3 the strength of the mountain top bust feat, these seem like odd numbers that came from nowhere.

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I also dont think there was a intent to have Diana as powerful as kryptonians, I think there was a intent to have her be able to punch outside her weight class because of gears.....I think JL showcased the huge gap between Diana and Superman....He clowned Steppenwolf.

Yes, that's possible too, but there is nothing forcing us to make that assumption. In Hela's case, we have two assumptions we can make: either the Asgardian concrete was just that durable, or it was just regular concrete. Both are possible, but we must make the assumption that preserves consistency, which is the first one. (I'm pretending that Hela didn't break Uru much easier)

The bait to end all baits, atleast for live action

I understand what you're saying. Maybe it was just an anti-feat for Hela? Or a low-showing, or just narrative PIS.

I don't mean to seem petty, it's just that if no one calls this type of stuff out - you unironically get people scaling absurd things like this below (i know he isn't being serious, but I've seen people make arguments like this to scale)

Either-way, I'm out this thread. This bait won't get anymore bumps from me lol.

LOL id say the same about Thanos.

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Thanos' is only (high tier) impressive when scaled to other characters.

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When scaled to the Hulk and Thor, Thanos is high tier impressive.

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Standalone feats a lot of people beat Thanos.

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Whats hypocritical?

This is literally the way ive always seen it.

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The OP listed Hulk feats that I literally cannot beat with DD standalone feats, so I was trying to point out that DD is scaled to Superman and thus superior...Whats the issue??

@death4bunnies: I’m not going to respond to everything. I’ve given you numbers before in previous posts about calcs for feats. Did you ignore them or did you forget?

DCEU > CW easy.

@jsfjkfjklsdfkls: Stay salty lol

I remember them, something about how many of my friends I can pull with my lasso.

I think this Diana scaling is funny.

I do think there is a bit of confusion, or maybe I didnt make myself clear(I sometimes dont)

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I dont think scaling is unusable, and I apologize that I gave off this perception.

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I think that scaling often follows a pattern that I think is faulty.

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Look at greatest feat of character 1...(Thor nidaviler)

Show character 2 matching strength...(Hulk)

Give strength feat to Hulk.

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I dont think scaling is a good representation of characters when you take a high end feat and apply that to every action of said character.

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I dont think every Superman strike is mountain busting.

I dont think every Hulk strike is leviathan level.

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Scaling is fair; especially in the case of DD scaling to Superman.

I think its less fair in the case of Diana and DD.

And less less fair to scale Diana to DD to Superman.

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Tho your 1/5th is more fair, it seems a bit odd to me still.

(tho I do respect your Diana to Supes breakdown, and think its a smart way to show the scaling)

@jsfjkfjklsdfkls: Says the one who gets triggered every time someone talks bad about his favorite superhero, smh.

@jsfjkfjklsdfkls: a lot of people share his sentiment so no his opinion isn’t worthless, watch how you talk to other users btw

Nope, I did point out that the armor is Nanotech, and had a discussion about its capabilities.

Where I landed is it increased durability somewhat(can no-sell bullets and can withstand a single ground cracking Thanos slam) I dont think it scales to Ironman.

Some reasons that were pointed out to me were thickness, also its older tech(was seen at the end of homcoming) and that Tony makes armor specific to the individual so he may have sacrificed durability for mobility.

So I purposely never scale IronSpider to Ironman, but only rely on IronSpiders 'stand alone' feats.

Also I said Spiderman can hang, I didnt give a winner, but for the record yes I think Spiderman beats the shit outta Aquaman.

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I still think Selene and WW are a good match(you cant find me saying who wins because I think its about 50/50, what you saw was me arguing against a stomp), and I dont think WW scales well to DD or Supes, so ya I guess thats a part of it.

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@jsfjkfjklsdfkls: Yeah because making alts, using a vpn to go back to a site where you got banned just to insult people because they don't like your favorite superhero isn't salty, lol.

I'm yet to read the post in its entirety, but I do question to quantifying of some of your feats (where does 2km come from in the first), but the main problem is consitency. DD's consistent feats are leagues above Hulk's. Hulk just has a couple of decent outliers (which I still dispute are above DD's until I see the calculations)

@aka_aka_aka_ak: He got 2km from the size of Sokovia, though Ultron likely wasn't hit even a kilometer away since they were standing at the center of it

@jsfjkfjklsdfkls: you’re very disrespectful and it’s clear that you’re a patient in a mental institution who shouldn’t be allowed access to the internet.

I’m praying for your recovery 🙏

@jsfjkfjklsdfkls: The other users don't post gay porn gifs though, unlike you, lol.