@buckwheat said:
@limitless82 said:
@buckwheat: I'm open to be wrong but atm I believe it's one sided on BA's favor.
1. I can't see Magneto put BA down. All the metals can only stale Adam but can't really put him down for good.
2. Maybe Eric can try trap BA within layers and layers and layers of metal but A. BA can just use his powerful AOE blasts (Palace explosion from flashback, bursted out of the mountain after awaken, lake explosion after escaped the prison etc) to blew them apart. B. even if Magneto keeps caging-in while BA keeps blasting out, eventually, Eric's human stamina will run out and can't keep up any more, then it is game over.
3. Talking of stamina, that's going to be another critical factor to consider. Eric is still a human after all. Even during his peak form when he was streaming the metal against Apocalypse, after a while of channeling and once Apocalypse started to push/move toward him, we could clearly see Eric was straining to keep it up and might not be able to do it for much longer if Jean didn't Phnenix-up. On contrary, throughout the entire BA movie, Adam fought one battle after another after another and shown no sign of fatigue. So if he wanted, he could just flying high and bait Eric to attack him constantly until Eric eventually get exhausted, then swoop down/lightning zap for an easy win.
4. Metals are excellent conductor for electricity, Adams main power and go-to move. So the more metal scraps are swirling around the vacinity the more electric bolts will spread and bounces all over the place, like how during the slow-mo scene, the electricity bounced from one soldier to the next, but only worse this time due to hundreds of conductive metal pieces all around them. All it will take is one stray bolt to hit Eric accidentally and he will be toasted.
5. Black Adams thunder clap can send all the flying metals back at Magneto, essentially turning his best move against him. Sure Magneto can try shield himself but again, all it will take is one careless moment and he will be impaled by stray metal and killed, like what happened in Days Of Future Past.
6. Magnetos saving grace is he have a powerful shield which stopped QS during the Apocalypse event. But A. That shield seems to take time to conjure (or at least, we never saw him deploy it instantaneously), just because the speed is equalised doesn't mean BA can't bullrush/lightning-zap before the shield is deployed. And B. The shield best feat was stopping a speedster when QS tried to push against it, and QS' strength is likely far beneath Black Adam. So argument can be made that BA can peneratrate the shield even though QS failed.
So yeah, there are many ways BA can win but the best chance Magneto can hope for is stalemate via Shielding.
Does Black Adam need to breath?
Imagine millions of steel particles cloggin your nose, mouth and eyes.
It's questionable if BA can bleed, but can he hit was he can't see? How will he manage when he is filled with enough iron to blind him and suffocate him?
It would be like trying to punch an infinite swarm of steel insects, that everytime you try to breath, clogg and fill your every orifice.
Correct me if I am wrong but I don't remember Fox Magneto has shown the ability to break down hundreds of large pieces of metal into millions of tiny dust-like PARTICLES? Much less do so INSTANTANEOUSLY? Much less commanding basically a sandstorm of micro metal particles to attack someone? Nor do I remember Fox Magneto has the Ironman's ability to scanalyze his enemies in a quick glance and knew right away that no other methods would work except maybe a never-been-used attack like this? After all, even in the most bloodlust state (ie. when his mother was killed, when his wife and daughter were murdered), Eric's go-to move has always been pure metal-bending and metal-throwing, instead of filling someone's orifices.
So yeah.....if we are going to use made-up feats/abilities, then I can just say BA can also blow those metal particles away with his super breath. After all, DCEU superman has super breath that could insta-freeze Steffenwolf's axe which was on par with WW's sword, since BA is superman's equal (as The rock kept hyping it up to be) it is reasonable to assume his made-up super-breath can at least capable of blow aside some made-up featless metallic dust particles, right? ;-)
As for whether BA needed to breathe, well he did get sealed under a rocky mountain for thousands of years, and his first appearance was after he busted out of a solid bed of rocks. Since we are using dubious made-up abilities, I can also infer from what was shown and deduct that BA did not need to breathe at all since he was trapped within the rocks all this time lol, one will be hard-pressed to prove otherwise, given his entrance. :-P
Lol anyway, joke aside, perhaps I misunderstood you and you were talking about the natural metallic particles that are within the earth, something that Magneto can pull out of the ground and attack with? That is a more plausible option. However, as we have seen during the Apocalypse film, even after he has received the amp, it still took him some time to concentrate and extract metal elements from the earth to put them to good use. Since there is no prep in this fight, and BA is not just gonna stand around scratching his ass waiting for Eric to finish his extraction, the only outcome for this is Adam bullrush/lightning-zap him before he could conjure up any useful amount of metallic particles, even with the speed equalized.
So, regardless of whichever scenario you were talking about, Fox Magneto's chance of winning is still slim at best. Even if I play along and pretend Magneto's metallic sandstorm is a real thing and it is his go-to move, let's not forget BA also has his powerful thunder-clap and nuke-level shockwave, which should be more than enough to scatter it, case in point: BA vs Cyclone's metal tornado attack, or BA's lake-nuke which has dispersed however-many million tons of water instantly. Alternatively, BA's lightning was also hot enough to instant-vape a car, which was mostly made of metal by the way. So really, he will have no trouble vaping tiny metallic particles in the air. And unlike the unrealistic sandstorm power you gave to an out-of-character Magneto, all of the counters I have listed for BA are legit something he has used...on screen...while in character - be it thunderclap, AOE-blast, or vaping metal.
So I stand by what I said in my last post, especially when none of my previous points/BA's advantages were debunked - be it Eric's lack of means to kill BA, lack of means to trap BA, lack of stamina to keep up with BA in a prolonged battle, lack of durability when trapped in a lightning-rampant metallic field, a poor track record of when the metallic hailstorm was turned against himself, and the lack of impressive feat for his shield other than stopping a speedster, who pales in comparison to BA strength-wise and AP-wise. Simply put, Black Adam can counter anything Magneto can dish out, whereas Magneto has no counter to anything Black Adam gonna do, not even a Stormbreaker to take advantage of like in the case of Magneto vs Thor. As I have said, this is a bad matchup IMO, my friend. :-)
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