DCEU Batman vs Phase 1 MCU Captain America

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Poll DCEU Batman vs Phase 1 MCU Captain America (181 votes)

Batman 29%
Captain America 71%
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Standard gear for Bats, but he's in his 2nd Justice League suit

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So Cap from Avengers? He still wins.

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JL Bats beats current Cap with high diff, this Cap gets smacked up.

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#4  Edited By FirestormFate1919

I think Bruce could definitely win this, especially with gear. Cap kinda jumped up a level near the Winter Soldier era, when he was working actively with Shield, he seemed significantly less killed prior to that.

Phase 2/3 Cap would definitely drop Bruce.

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Still Captain America.

Steve caught up to a submersible and punched through its glass while underwater. He was taking out Chitauri soldiers with ease in Avengers.

Steve wins decisively.

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Cap still wins. Better physically and has a shield that renders all of Batman's gear useless

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With gear, I can see Bats getting the win here. Though Batman's lack of reflex feats would make it hard.

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Cap wins just with a lot more difficulty than he would currently .

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I'm sorry, that Batman has not been very impressive to me. He hasn't shown any major skill(even the warehouse scene in BvS) wasn't a huge amount of skill. The best he has ever done was against Superman when he had time to prep the Kryptonite. He struggled with a single Parademon, something even this Cap would not do considering the fact he was taking on multiple Chitauri at the same time. Cap still wins this unless maybe if Batman got his mech suit.

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#10  Edited By Amcu

I'll still take Steve in a fight. Even back than he has the physical advantage imo. He was actually really strong back than.

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Batman. Net gun. Explosives.

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@amcu: wow cap was really strong by then .well i change My opinion, this fight could go either way

Batman has the gadgets while captain América the physichals

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@amcu:

I'll still take Steve in a fight. Even back than he has the physical advantage imo. He was actually really strong back than.

I don't see why Batman can't replicate either of those. He has lifted people off their feet with one arm and ragdolled them just as casually.

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@amcu: wow cap was really strong by then .well i change My opinion, this fight could go either way

Batman has the gadgets while captain América the physichals

Indeed but Steve has the Shield too and I think he was pretty fast even back than.

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@rbt said:

@amcu:

I'll still take Steve in a fight. Even back than he has the physical advantage imo. He was actually really strong back than.

I don't see why Batman can't replicate either of those. He has lifted people off their feet with one arm and ragdolled them just as casually.

I don't recall him ever doing anything like the first gif I posted. The second one maybe but I doubt even it. This is likely his best striking feat if I'm not mistaken.

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That feat is impressive but I don't think its as good as either of the feats I posted. Here you can see the distance Batman was from the whole in the ground and it isn't that far.

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Now that feat is made more impressive by the fact that the guy was moving towards Batman but I still don't think is comparable to those feats. In the second one Steve flipped his whole body casually and he went very very high. He also looked like he was going to go pretty far but we don't see. I definitely cannot see Batman doing the first one. This one.

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I'm not great at judging distances but looking at it by the way the guy was rising in the first image and how far he was from the camera in the next image where Steve is actually off screen. I'd estimate that at 30 feet minimum. And he did that with a casual kick like you would kick a ball. No momentum or extra force. I could be forgetting but I don't recall seeing Batman ever do anything like that.

As far as pure strength Steve has some impressive rag dolling feats himself.

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His most impressive showing in phase one is braking the locks on a secure Shield door. I can't find the video but I know he did it. I personally think that puts him soundly above Batman in strength.

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#16  Edited By mexcomics2078

@amcu: If cap use his advantages(physicals , shield) he could win but if Batman use his gadgets efficiently he could win too. I think this fight depends about how the characters are willing to fight each other

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@amcu: If cap use hiz advantages(physicals , shield) he could win but if Batman use his gadgets efficiently he could win too. I think this fight dependa about how the characters are willing to fight each other

True.

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Unskilled Cap vs Batman with all his gear?

Batman got this.

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Batman wins.

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Batman in a great fight.

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@amcu: Batman was ragdolling Parademons with his kicks. I'd say that's more impressive than ragdolling men. Cap is still likely ahead of him in strength, but gap isn't huge.

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@rbt said:

@amcu: Batman was ragdolling Parademons with his kicks. I'd say that's more impressive than ragdolling men. Cap is still likely ahead of him in strength, but gap isn't huge.

That's true. I see Steve winning but it is a very close match up. I think Steve's shield will help him though and he can use it up close in melee where it will do serious damage to Batman. I also Think that Cap is still faster even without his more modern speed feats.

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@amcu said:
@rbt said:

@amcu: Batman was ragdolling Parademons with his kicks. I'd say that's more impressive than ragdolling men. Cap is still likely ahead of him in strength, but gap isn't huge.

That's true. I see Steve winning but it is a very close match up. I think Steve's shield will help him though and he can use it up close in melee where it will do serious damage to Batman. I also Think that Cap is still faster even without his more modern speed feats.

This could go either way, IMO. Batman has gear that can give him pretty decent advantage from range(explosives and electrified net) but he lacks speed and awareness feats to suggest he can dodge a shield toss indefinitely.

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Honestly could go either way.

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@rbt said:

This could go either way, IMO. Batman has gear that can give him pretty decent advantage from range(explosives and electrified net) but he lacks speed and awareness feats to suggest he can dodge a shield toss indefinitely.

Very true. I do think that he might be able to deal with the explosive with his shield.

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That did hurt Cap but I don't think Batman's explosives seem nearly as large or as powerful as that one. Still this is a close match up. I don't remember how fast the net is but Steve might struggle to counter it.

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It could go either way but I'd back Cap in a tough fight. As per the above GIF he could certainly take a beating back then and he still has a decent edge in displayed physicals. The gear advantage for Bat's makes it close but I think Steve should more often then not be able to overcome it.

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While current Bats is way more experienced and skilled than pre-WS Cap, the latter still has a significant stat advantage sufficient enough to overcome that difference and not to mention, a nigh indestructible shield which is almost a perfect counter to Bats' gear, which is why I'm inclined to go with Cap for a majority, although I could still see Bats taking a few if he uses his gear smartly and manages to disarm Cap and keep his shield away from him for the majority of the fight.

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#28  Edited By modernww2fare
@amcu said:
@rbt said:

@amcu:

I'll still take Steve in a fight. Even back than he has the physical advantage imo. He was actually really strong back than.

I don't see why Batman can't replicate either of those. He has lifted people off their feet with one arm and ragdolled them just as casually.

I don't recall him ever doing anything like the first gif I posted. The second one maybe but I doubt even it. This is likely his best striking feat if I'm not mistaken.

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That feat is impressive but I don't think its as good as either of the feats I posted. Here you can see the distance Batman was from the whole in the ground and it isn't that far.

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Now that feat is made more impressive by the fact that the guy was moving towards Batman but I still don't think is comparable to those feats. In the second one Steve flipped his whole body casually and he went very very high. He also looked like he was going to go pretty far but we don't see. I definitely cannot see Batman doing the first one. This one.

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I'm not great at judging distances but looking at it by the way the guy was rising in the first image and how far he was from the camera in the next image where Steve is actually off screen. I'd estimate that at 30 feet minimum. And he did that with a casual kick like you would kick a ball. No momentum or extra force. I could be forgetting but I don't recall seeing Batman ever do anything like that.

As far as pure strength Steve has some impressive rag dolling feats himself.

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His most impressive showing in phase one is braking the locks on a secure Shield door. I can't find the video but I know he did it. I personally think that puts him soundly above Batman in strength.

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#29  Edited By FlashingSabre

Cap still ragdolls him.

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@modernww2fare: Thanks I had forgotten that feat. Its very impressive.

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@tj849 said:

JL Bats beats current Cap with high diff, this Cap gets smacked up.

How cause he survived a pimp slap from Supes?

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@_kingoflatveria: Gear. Parademons who effortlessly tore off parts of the batmobile and sent him flying couldnt get out of his net in the opening scene. He would trap him, stick a nade on his face boom, simple. OP hasnt specified location which means this is in a populated city block I think so theres definitely loads of walls.

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@tj849 said:

@_kingoflatveria: Gear. Parademons who effortlessly tore off parts of the batmobile and sent him flying couldnt get out of his net in the opening scene. He would trap him, stick a nade on his face boom, simple. OP hasnt specified location which means this is in a populated city block I think so theres definitely loads of walls.

except Cap has dealt with all of his gear and why can't Cap oneshot him first with a shield throw to his perfect chin.

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Even with only Phase 1 feats, Cap still wins almost effortlessly.

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@_kingoflatveria: Hes not getting out of that net though. Supes hit him on his mouth didnt even make him bleed or disrupt his speech, no way in hell is a single shield smash on his chin one shotting him.

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@tj849 said:

@_kingoflatveria: Hes not getting out of that net though. Supes hit him on his mouth didnt even make him bleed or disrupt his speech, no way in hell is a single shield smash on his chin one shotting him.

supes hit him on the part where there was armor. Cap is accurant as hell with that thing and he can throw it hard enough to pierce Ultron 2. It's either piercing him or oneshotting him. Also the net is a pretty big stretch. Cap could easily aim dodge that thing as he has shown before.

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#37  Edited By tj849

@_kingoflatveria: Nope it was on the mouth, do you have a pic for this?. Bats would just dodge the throw effortlessly, I mean he did evade Doomsday and his HV. He cant dodge it if bruce uses one of those stun things he used in the warehouse just before.

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@tj849 said:

@_kingoflatveria: Nope it was on the mouth, do you have a pic for this?. Bats would just dodge the throw effortlessly, I mean he did evade Doomsday and his HV. He cant dodge it if bruce uses one of those stun things he used in the warehouse just before.

he slapped the side of his face.

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just look at it.

Stun things, you mean the explosives with like 4 second count down. Cap already reacted to something similar in Civil War when Crossbones tossed a bomb on his shield.

What feats does Batman have of reacting to projectiles as fast as Cap's shield?

EDIT: He even blocks it to a degree

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#39 MAZAHS117  Online

This is a closer fight than if DCEU Batman was fighting current MCU Cap, but I’d still back Cap to get the win more often than not here. This Cap isn’t as skilled as the current incarnation but he’s still skilled enough, stronger, hits harder than Batman and his shield is a great defense against Batman’s gear/weapons.

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@tj849 said:

@_kingoflatveria: Nope it was on the mouth, do you have a pic for this?. Bats would just dodge the throw effortlessly, I mean he did evade Doomsday and his HV. He cant dodge it if bruce uses one of those stun things he used in the warehouse just before.

he slapped the side of his face.

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just look at it.

Stun things, you mean the explosives with like 4 second count down. Cap already reacted to something similar in Civil War when Crossbones tossed a bomb on his shield.

What feats does Batman have of reacting to projectiles as fast as Cap's shield?

EDIT: He even blocks it to a degree

he slapped the side of his face.

This vids quality is crap lol. You can see Bruce brace just before he gets whacked on the mouth and it looks like the centre of his face to me.

Stun things, you mean the explosives with like 4 second count down. Cap already reacted to something similar in Civil War when Crossbones tossed a bomb on his shield.

He can use them implicitly. He has smoke nades as well to assist him.

What feats does Batman have of reacting to projectiles as fast as Cap's shield

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@tj849: all of those instances are aim dodging cept for evading Doomsday's bullrush which is just honest PIS lol

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@tj849: you are telling me the guy who could react to a superman bullrush and could jump Islands

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Batman wins

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#46  Edited By LDM

Still Cap. DCEU Batman is overrated as f*ck. One movie has him beating fodders while being tagged a shit load amount of time and struggling a lot while the other one has him straight up get his ass handed to him. I can’t believe this joke of a Batman is being compared to a guy who completely shits all over him in every aspect. Any Cap after WS has the ability to stomp him 10/10

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Cap in a good fight depending on how Batman uses his gadgets.

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#48  Edited By Amendment50

I don't get why people think characters have gained some kind of power increase every time they get better feats.

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Batman, but post Winter Soldier-Captain America would own him.

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#50 rogueshadow  Moderator

I don't get why people think characters have gained some kind of power increase every time they get better feats.

It's more skill and experience with MCU Cap.