DCEU Batman vs MCU Red Skull

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Battle takes place on Red Skull's ship. Batman has the suit in the picture for both rounds.

  1. Strictly H2H combat, start 10 yards apart
  2. Standard gear (all gadgets allowed for Bruce, Red Skull has his Hydra pistol), start 15 yards apart

Who wins each round and why?

Bonus round: Mech-Suit Batman vs Red Skull H2H combat

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Bruce wins both rounds IMO. I can see the opposite logic though.

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Red skull IMO

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Batman wins all rounds except probably the second one. Red Skull is nigh featless. The only feats I recall are him punching through Steve's shield and moving that coffin lid with minimal effort, the same one which several men could barely move.

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Batman wins all rounds except probably the second one. Red Skull is nigh featless. The only feats I recall are him punching through Steve's shield and moving that coffin lid with minimal effort, the same one which several men could barely move.

He also tanked a punch from a pissed off Captain America.

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I'm going to go with Bruce both rounds. Skull's only real notable feats are giving a rookie Cap a good fight( who would stomp him now) and denting steel.

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I'm feeling Red Skull on this one. Less in round 2, than 1, but still.

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I'll back Bruce for both

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Bruce I think.I don't remember the first captain America film very well

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Bruce should win both.

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red skull

Bruce

Bruce stomps

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Batman

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Bruce all rounds e-z

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#16  Edited By Amnesiak

Batman should win all rounds

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If Bruce can avoid a direct hit from Red he could win H2H, but that's a big if.

With the mech suit its spite in his favor

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Doubt a hit from Red Skull will damage his armor.

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#19  Edited By Amonfire1776

The Red skull

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DCEU Batman.

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Bruce.

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Probably Bruce. I could see where Skull might win.

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H2h Red Skull due to super soldier physicals and his showing against Cap.

With gear Red Skull due to Tesseract powered gun.

Mech suit Batman stomps in a h2h only fight.

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Skull round 1. Bruce can win round 2 due to gear

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Red Skull wins when he gets his pistol otherwise he loses.

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Well Skull is a lot stronger, but Bruce is more skilled. So hand to hand Skull wins, but with weapons Bruce wins. Bonus round, definitely Bruce.

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#27  Edited By jl_ayala99

DCEU Batman wins both rounds.

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50/50 in h2h

r2 Batman

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Batman's faster stronger and more skilled plus he can take a hit so he walks down Skull in H2H pretty easily. With gear it's over quickly.

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It's been awhile since I've seen the movie, but doesn't Red Skull scale to Captain America?

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@rerisen: in strength and durability but not skill and speed/agility

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@krishnyak: Pillar feat is better than anything Skull has done and Batfleck has several other feats just like it. He's also blocked bullets, at absolute worst aim dodged against Deadshot who'd nail Red Skull if they were in a CQC fight and he ran against a wall avoiding shotgun shells. Skull doesn't have anything in that category to compete

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@the_gaurdian: Skull scaling to Steve and Walker . When Batfleck dodged bullets from Deadshot? Because noname mercenaries could tag him.

what pillar feat?can you remind me?

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@the_gaurdian: Skull scaling to Steve and Walker

Batman's faster than both of them as well though

When Batfleck dodged bullets from Deadshot?

Below. As I mentioned above as well at worst it's an aim dodge but that's still better than any combat speed feat from Red Skull. Deadshot's fast enough to mow down dozens of Enchantress' troops without missing or wasting a single bullet. He dodged Incubus' tendrils after they launched even though they were fast enough to reach a helicopter flying at skyscraper heights in seconds even though he was on the ground. Enchantress in the final fight against the squad filled the room with so much smoke they could barely see and was also teleporting around to sneak attack but Deadshot reacted to her, blocked her hits and landed one of his own. Skull straight up has nothing comparable to that level of speed and Batman beat this guy down without getting tagged once.

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what pillar feat?can you remind me?

From Batman v Superman. And for comparison I left Cap's two pillar feats below as well so people can see that Batman's was straight up superior. Scaling to Cap won't save Skull here because in instance one Cap had help from the momentum of Ultron's thrusters and didn't even send him through the entire pillar then in Civil War he barely cracks the concrete when he slams a mercenary into it. Compared to Batman slamming Superman through four pillars without slowing down that's a way better strength showing so Skull would get manhandled if it came to grappling.

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Skull give him the weiner

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@the_gaurdian: 1)Batman punched Deadshot before he made a shot and in second time deashot clearly made a shot ,but Batman ttanked due to his armor.

2)pillar feat was in anti superman armor and it only shows that weak Superman is mor durable than Ultron(?)

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@the_gaurdian: 1)Batman punched Deadshot before he made a shot

That's a feat for Batman, if Deadshot could react to Enchantress and Incumbus in similar situations but not Batman then that's nothing but a great example of his own combat speed

and in second time deashot clearly made a shot ,but Batman ttanked due to his armor.

Armor is made of titanium underneath so we would've heard the bullet bounce off if it connected, like I said it's an aim dodge at absolute worst but the fact that Deadshot couldn't hit him is again an indicator that Bruce will be able to dance around Red Skull here

2)pillar feat was in anti superman armor

The suit does absolutely nothing to enhance his strength though, in addition to Snyder saying that himself during press for the film he also said it's akin to "a bear suit" meant to prevent mauling more than anything. The strength he displayed in his fight vs. Superman was all his.

and it only shows that weak Superman is mor durable than Ultron(?)

Ultron immensely heavier than Superman and is completely coated head to toe in metal. Superman's around the 200lb range and additionally lost his durability/invulnerability as we saw from the kryptonite gas. Bruce essentially used a 200lb wrecking ball and swung it through four pillars while Cap couldn't break an android through a pillar even with help from his jets, Bruce is stronger than Skull even with scaling to Cap.

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#39 death4bunnies  Moderator

@krishnyak: @the_gaurdian:

Not for nothing.. but the SS novelization says Deadshot it him with that bullet.

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But honestly that novel has a bunch of things that are different from the movie..like a ton.

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Batman wins R1 in h2h plus gear. He is a beast.. R2 he stomps.

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Batman wins r1 and Red Skull stomps r2 thanks to his cosmic cube guns