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Stats Equalized, random encounter, who wins ?
Diana being stated the best fighter in the DCEU gets thrown around a lot but I've never seen evidence. Years ago somebody said that it is stated in the tech manual but I've combed through it and can never find it.
Diana being stated the best fighter in the DCEU gets thrown around a lot but I've never seen evidence. Years ago somebody said that it is stated in the tech manual but I've combed through it and can never find it.
I believe this is it.
@boc: Pretty solid accolade. Would've preferred it come from Snyder or Patty than Johns though. But I believe he was pretty heavily involved in WW.
Bruce by feats. Diana by intent.
Bruce by feats. Diana by intent.
Diana should be the better fighter. Being trained by amazons, and able to keep up with Steppenwolf, who seemed to be well known for being a unit of a warrior/general.
Batman for sure is the smarter fighter, and if they are equalized in terms of Batmans physical than Bats should manage a win given the environment allows him something he can use for an advantage. Since Bats knows what the human based limits are and can use many things around to down someone of that lvl, while someone on WWs physicals would find far less common options to gain an edge with from the environment.
Naturally Diana takes the majority, but it gets flipped badly if Bats has environmental options, which boost his chances relative to the options available and the physicals we equalize them towards.
Diana breaks his neck
Diana
Am I missing something? Everybody is saying Diana, but stats are equilized and Bruce has got a LOT of gear on him with crazy ranged attacks, plus a bullet-proof suit.
If this was pure H2H a case could be made for Diana, but with Batman's arsenal...
I think Bats has a big chance of winning here.
@buckwheat: I thought this was hand to hand my mistake. I still think Diana takes this 9/10 if stats are equalized to her and 6/10 if not. Better gear
@erkanbeater: wait, why does he stomp?
Bruce by feats. Diana by intent.
@erkanbeater: wait, why does he stomp?
I showed you why
Bruce by feats. Diana by intent.
Still not seeing how Batman wins. Diana is the better fighter by feats and Bruce’s is gear was lackluster in the DCEU
: I thought this was hand to hand my mistake. I still think Diana takes this 9/10 if stats are equalized to her and 6/10 if not. Better gear
Do you think she would recure to deadly force? I'm not so sure, she has pretty high morals. Without that and taking away her speed, Batman does have a reach advantage, due to his utility belt full of ranged weapons.
Still not seeing how Batman wins. Diana is the better fighter by feats and Bruce’s is gear was lackluster in the DCEU
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@supremegeneration: we’ve both seen their feats of taking down fodder and they looked equal. Batman has no feats of taking down any skilled fighters. Wonder Woman was the best fighter out of a race of skilled fighters and has centuries of experience.
@supremegeneration: we’ve both seen their feats of taking down fodder and they looked equal. Batman has no feats of taking down any skilled fighters. Wonder Woman was the best fighter out of a race of skilled fighters and has centuries of experience.
Even if they looked equal, Bruce would still be leagues better by virtue of not massively outstatting his opponents to the degree that Diana does.
Diana has no feats of taking down skilled fighters either, to the best of my knowledge. Sparring doesn't count either...
@buckwheat: I definitely think so. She had problem using lethal force against Ares, DD, Steppenwolf and the Parademons. She could one shot the Nazi so no need to kill them, but fighting against someone with equal stats I think she’d use lethal force to protect herself.
@supremegeneration: Diana was a lot stronger than her opponents but she used nothing but skill. No super speed or Batman also was a lot stronger than his opponents and was also tagged a lot more. And training does count. She beat warriors a lot more skilled than anyone Batman fought. Also, she was stated to be the best fighter in the DCEU
Diana is a lot stronger than Batman so I guess she would win.
Stats are equalized.
Bruce by feats. Diana by intent.
@takenstew22: Oh then I guess Bruce wins be feats.
Close, but probably Bruce. He has mastered so many martial arts that she would have a hard time keeping up.
Bruce by feats. All of Diana’s fights either came with her being drastically stronger And faster than her opponents While Bruce was taking down armed mercenaries actually capable of stabbing shooting and holding him down.
@supremegeneration: Why wouldn't sparring count? In the training scene several amazons went all out trying to subdue her and she defeated all of them but her aunt. Sounds like you're trying to negate legitimate feats.
@beyond_dreams: Diana has had thousands of years of training and atleast 90 years on the mainland to study modern martial arts
OT: Diana came from gods, let that sink in. Yeah, you can use feats for bruce but all he did was handicapped supes at most, he still has no real skill set to take on someone on or above his level. All he did is took on thugs that worked for Luthor and some incompetent parademons which Diana also has done. Anything Bruce did, Diana has already done in her movies.
@supremegeneration: Diana was a lot stronger than her opponents but she used nothing but skill. No super speed or Batman also was a lot stronger than his opponents and was also tagged a lot more. And training does count. She beat warriors a lot more skilled than anyone Batman fought. Also, she was stated to be the best fighter in the DCEU
Bull. Even in her WWI fight scenes we'd see the camera go slow motion and Diana would move several times the distance her opponents did in the same timeframe.
Batman was stronger than his opponents, sure, but nowhere near the level Diana was. He got tagged as well, but he wasn't hilariously faster than them too.
Training doesn't count. Literally everyone is holding back. Unless you can show me feats for Amazons that say they're more skilled than what Bruce has fought, I'm not seeing it, especially given their performance vs WWI soldiers.
@supremegeneration: Why wouldn't sparring count? In the training scene several amazons went all out trying to subdue her and she defeated all of them but her aunt. Sounds like you're trying to negate legitimate feats.
You'd be right, if it were a legitimate feat to begin with. By it's very nature sparring has everyone holding back. Even if it were legit, Amazons have no feats to say they're impressive.
@supremegeneration: Diana has feats of beating people far more skilled than Batman has beaten.
She was stated to be the best fighter in the DCEU and she was the best warrior on the entire island of Themyscira. She beat several skilled opponents. Batman has beaten none.
@supremegeneration: Beating skilled Warriors with thousands of years of experience >>> beating random gunman
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