@anthp2000: we haven't seen a whole lot of how good Deadshot is outside of his fight with Batman, so using Floyd doing smth against him to say he's bad doesn't work. From what we've seen, he's a fine fighter, and fighting Enchantress the way he did is definitely above Nolan Batman, even if you (I'm assuming) disagree.
Fair enough, though I disagree about Enchantress.
there's no reason to assume any mercs in the Nolan trilogy are as good as the warehouse mercs,
They were rapidly gunning down special forces in a comparable manner to how the warehouse mercs handled African terrorists. Furthermore they have better on paper accolades.
and the LoS have no feats like you're acting they do.
Guessing casually breaking necks isn't a feat then? Anyway LOS>>>Mercs in an assessment made by Bruce and there's no reason to discard it, on paper they're much better than warehouse mercs.
Objectively, Batman fought much better operatives, on paper.
I'm assuming you're referring to DCEU Bruce here, my apologies if you're not, if you are that's simply not the casse.
Also, the "4 on 1" happened during the 24v1 sequence, meaning Batman had to keep track of the entire room,
Why, there were none close to him at all and the majority had been finished off.
losing stamina fighting this many well trained and equipped people etc.
He subdued a majority of them through gear, and it's conjecture to say he was majorly drained.
something Nolan Batman's never shown himself good enough to do.
He took down 12 men in a tighter space, attacking in larger groups at once and got tagged less without using gear like DCEU Bruce.
Of course you can lowball on a similar manner, but your lowballing doesn't work because those aren't bad showings.
Didn't realise getting tagged twice fighting 4 mercs was a great showing...
Nolan Batman has a bunch of awful anti-feats;
Oh, really?
getting trashed for a while by Joker (basically a thug) and his... other thugs
Yeah, Joker's a lot more than just a thug. He was able to fodderise a mobster without much difficulty, slamming his head clean through a pencil. Bruce only struggled because Joker managed to use his unpredictably to distract Bruce and get into a favourable position. Hardly what I'd call the worst showing around.
What Anthp says:
,got shot by Twoface just standing there,
The events of TDK:
So point it at the people, responsible.
-Bruce Wayne (Source: The Dark Knight)
Bruce allowed himself to be shot out of guilt, in a last ditch attempt to persuade Harvey not to hurt Gordon's kid.
got overwhelmed by these 2 dogs,
That one I'll give you as a fair low showing.
has been tagged more than once again fighting low level thugs,
Outside of the club fight and the docks fight Bruce has never been tagged fighting low level thugs in any sort of fair scenario.
hell in that with the 6 mercs you keep bringing up one of the dudes slipped and fell down;
Just like the Dora slaying Outriders couldn't even coordinate in BP, with two of them standing fifteen feet away twirling their spears like idiots, yet you ignored that on the grounds that it's not what these sequences are about. I'd agree with you on this but you have to apply it to every showing, and it most certainly counts for this one. The mercs were intended to be top of the range, a choreography error doesn't change that.
it's because Nolan cared to make good films, not battle-forum feat parades.
I very much doubt a single director in any of the films we discuss was thinking about making a battle forum parade when crafting these movies.
And every other feat you brought up isn't nearly as impressive are you're making it out to be - the rooftop fight had heavy assistance from Catwoman who took like 50% of them,
Bruce took at least 5 lol, I never claimed he took all of them just that he went untouched, which he did against 5 top of the range mercenaries.
the docks fighter - there's no reason to think DCEU Batman would get tagged there too...
When he gets a feat on par with going through 12 guys in a tight circle, surrounding from every angle attacking in groups of 3-5 in rapid succession tell me. Until then...
DCEU Batman has far better stats than Nolan Batman
He might be stronger but he doesn't have striking good enough to put Bruce down easily, Bane hits harder and 6 consecutive blows from him did nothing, falls that damaged cars barely phased him, ect. Outside of the Superman feat (Given Supes wasn't using his full power so all we have to go off is the car damage which itself is impressive, but not good enough to ensure Nolan Bruce's casual brick smashing hits wouldn't hurt him) he has nothing noteworthy and Bruce will eventually put him down, the Superman feat being the only thing that'll really help him here.
- Superman or Wonder Woman would sneeze on Baleman and he'd die,
If they were serious they'd do the same to DCEU Bruce lol.
he has just as good if not better showings of skill,
>Gets tagged twice fighting 4 mercs hand to hand.
>Gets tagged the same amount fighting 4 more skilled ninjas while dealing with tougher weapons.
Wonder who's better.
he's much faster
They both suck.
and he's got 10 times the gear Nolan Batman has, and that's clear just looking at their fight scenes. Show me a single battle Nolan Batman's been in that even compares to the warehouse scene as a whole.
Fair enough on gear, the match will eventually close to hand to hand though, Bruce has done nothing that convinces me he'll be able to tag Bruce with it gear wise.
@texasdeathmatch: Worked up over a franchise? Yup, I'm really worked up over here. My aggressive nature is how I act IRL, I'm far from worked up. If you think this is worked up then you should see me when I'm studying for school work lol. And I literally addressed each of Bruce's major fodder wrecking sequences, 3 of which are low showings, compared to the 9 that aren't. Seems fairly cut and dry to me, he doesn't have enough low showings to establish consistently.
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