DCEU Ares vs MCU Vision

@imagein: Um this is Ares vs Vision, not Cap.

@war_of_light_2814: I meant the Hydra weapons from TFA and Loki's Scepter from the Avengers.

@the_fallen_lord: Exactly.

@war_of_light_2814: So your point?

@the_fallen_lord: Those energy blast are not impressive.And by those i mean the Hydra gun blast and loki sceptor blast, got it?

They vaporized people and reinforced metal doors. When has Thor's or Ares' lightning vaporized anything? Those guns used controlled focused blasts. That doesn't mean they were weak.

@the_fallen_lord:

1.Thor was never in the conversation,stop red herring.

2 creating a huge crater in the ground>>>> vaping people.

we even see it hit solid object aside from people and cap shield and it' <<< the explosion cause by wonder woman redirecting Ares lightning back at him

You should stop wasting my time by posting something that has nothing to do with my original reply to you.

@war_of_light_2814:

Okay let me put this in simpler words. Since we are talking about Vibranium in general, let's forget about Cap's shield for a while and let's discuss Ultron instead. In AoU, it took the combined efforts of Vision's mind stone, Thor's lightning and IM's repulsors to melt Ultron's Vibranium body. Now unless you can prove that Ares' lightning >>>>> Thor's lighting + Mind stone + repulsors, don't bother replying.

@the_fallen_lord: So you basically admit that those blasts aren't impressive? great.

Whats feats does Thor lighting has when he actually shot it from his hammer and not summon it from the sky,he use similar blast on mk6 and it didn't do much to the iron man armor

Iron man repusor is not even worth discussing about,it's actually one of his weaker attacks.

Vision best feat is destroying atc tower in civil war again, not impressive.

Lol. Ares stomps. Look at the crater that killed Are and you see the level of firepower his lighting does. Vision should be on MCU tbornkevek, which means he could take that, but he has no actual feats to prove that yet. Ares stomps.

Ares stomps Vision into a pile of scraps.

@war_of_light_2814:

So you basically admit that those blasts aren't imppressive? great.

No. But you seemed confused, that's why I moved away from that discussion. Vaporizing reinforced metal doors or even people is not something Ares' lightning has been shown to be capable of.

Whats feats is Thor lighting has when he actually shot from his hammer and not summon it from the sky,he use similar blast on mk6 and it didn't do much to the iron man armor

And now starts the lowballing. I think it's clearly been implied in the movies that Thor keeps lightning stored in the Mjolnir and only summons it from the sky when he has to use it on a large scale, for eg. Oneshotting 3 Chitauri Leviathans in the Avengers. That doesn't make his smaller focused bolts of lightning any weaker. And using the Iron Man example is absurd as it was explicitly stated in the movie via dialogue that Tony's suit absorbed Thor's lightning which resulted in the suit's power being increased by 400%.

Iron man repusor is not even worth discussing about,it's actually one of his weaker attacks.

I agree to some extent. I only put it there because it played some role, even though a minor one, in melting Ultron's body. But what you're referring to as weaker attacks are actually short busts of repulsor blasts that IM usually fires, for eg. in the fight with Cap and Bucky in CW. Since IM's repulsors are basically concussive force + heat, a continuous repulsor beam that he hit Ultron with generates much more heat than short busts that IM generally uses. So it was not as weak as you think.

Vision best feat is destroying atc tower in civil war again, not impressive.

Guess we have to agree to disagree here. It was impressive enough for me.

@the_fallen_lord:

Could we just agree to disagree? it's not like we have hd Wonder Woman fight clip available so we could prove things and more importantly, i'm done typing long posts on mobile phone.

@war_of_light_2814: Okay.

Ah, but has Vision ever been shown to endure attacks like the kind Ares can unleash or bring to bear? Because then I can just reverse it and say that Vision has never had to withstand attacks as powerful as Ares before, and there is nothing so suggest that he could. I don't recall really any durability showings of note, and I certainly don't recall any speed feats that suggest he's in any way faster than someone at WW's level.

I also disagree that vibranium is better than Diana. She was taking hits from Doomsday without a problem and weathering his lightning explosions, which were blasting away buildings. The notion that MCU Vibranium is vastly better than that isn't convincing to me. Even if Ares doesn't curbstomp, he should win. I don't remember anything from Vision to suggest he's up to the challenge.

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Ares 1-shots

Hard to tell exactly but by the lock of it a legit god with hax powers like tk tp lightning and more with experience of thousands of years and only weakness is that he can be kill only by another god should give him the win

I don't know if Vision is getting really lowballed or Ares overrated. But this is not a stomp for any side as people is making it seem.

Btw, that "Ares can only be killed by a God" is a NLF

Not sure til I see the film.

Ares should win

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Why is intangibility not being discussed? How does Ares counter that, especially with a morals-off Vision?

Only a God can kill a God

God of War

Oh my goodness! Vision wank continues I see. Ares crushes him with a mere thought. Insta crush him

Vision after a tough fight.

Vision Oneshots

Ares hasn't shown to control anything as hard as Vibranium

Ares turns vision into a sword

Define God. A dude from a species of super-powerful beings?

Only a god can kill him is a silly argument, Superman was worshiped as a god in a way In batman V superman, he indeed displayed powers people would call godly, Yet he wasn't an actual Olympian are you arguing that superman couldn't harm Aeries?

Can mcu Thor harm him? I mean thor is a god right?

Would you consider a being wielding a power equal to 1/6th of the infinity gauntlet not godlike?

Another thing to consider is Diana was slowly coming into her powers as the movie progressed was she even at full power when she took aeries out? it was stated that aries was wounded so maybe he wasn't at full tilt either.

Not sure who would win but just wanted to call the Killed only by a god thing wankeriffic.

I want to say vision would win but neither aeries nor vision has a mad ton of amazing feats. Smashing some concrete with lightning is cool and all, melting ultron is spiffy but how much of that was ironman and Thor? They are both just kind of unimpressive.

Vision phasestomps.

Vision wins. Better physicals and better versatility.

Ares can generate a lightning bolt so powerful it can cloud an entire airport and kill even gods like himself in one hit.... I really can't imagine Vision surviving something like this if Howkeye's trick arrows can hurt him. On the other hand, Ares has teleportation, telepathy, telekinesis and loads of loads of other hacks, so Vision can't even touch him. It's a mismatch.

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Vision is just metal Ares transmutes him into a new helmet or a pair of shoes and becomes more powerful harnessing the mind stone

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Lol, Ares crushes this metal dude.

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