DCEU Ares VS DCEU Doomsday

@flashknight: I doubt it, how would Ares even know about DD's weakness?

Doomsday wins this match.

The other question would be... would he even need it considering Diana managed to take off one of Doomsday's sizable limbs with a single blow. Plus Doomsday has no way of killing Ares, since Zod isn't a god, so Ares should have all the time in the world to chop Doomsday into pieces... or atleast so many times he's become and ummoving ball of bone armor.

@outside_85: Ehh, if you actually think Diana can beat Doomsday without help or kryptonite then you're trippin lol

Doomsday has better feats than Ares. Wonder Woman obviously have gotten stronger in his fight against DD and she also has new weapons.

I'm still not sure how god's immortality works in DCEU but I'm not just gonna take it as they're invincible to a non-god being that's more powerful than them.

Doomsday rips him apart.

She was doing alot better than Superman was, and was doing more damage to Doomsday than it did to her. So yeah, evidence suggests she could.

The logic behind Ares being able to harm Doomsday is the same as the one working for Diana in BvS. Doomsday tanks nukes and Kryptonian punches, yet looses a hand to a sword... that sword either has to be really something or Diana just happened on a weakspot. Now, the working theory was that the sword was somehow magic and that it exploited the age old Kryptonian pitfall of not being immune to it. Ares is an actual god and magic is part of everything he does and shapes... like his weapons.

It was how Ares described it: 'Only a god can kill another god.' Thats pretty straight forwards. The problem is that you dont have anything to actually support that, it's just how you feel about it.

Doomsday of course!

@outside_85:

She was doing alot better than Superman was, and was doing more damage to Doomsday than it did to her. So yeah, evidence suggests she could.

She was doing better Superman but she couldn't beat Doomsday without help or kryptonite. That's just facts, otherwise Superman wouldn't need to sacrifice himself.

The logic behind Ares being able to harm Doomsday is the same as the one working for Diana in BvS. Doomsday tanks nukes and Kryptonian punches, yet looses a hand to a sword... that sword either has to be really something or Diana just happened on a weakspot. Now, the working theory was that the sword was somehow magic and that it exploited the age old Kryptonian pitfall of not being immune to it. Ares is an actual god and magic is part of everything he does and shapes... like his weapons.

Nah, her sword is just strong enough to pierce Doomsday, that's all the logic needed. The sword is different than the one she used against Ares though.

It was how Ares described it: 'Only a god can kill another god.' Thats pretty straight forwards. The problem is that you dont have anything to actually support that, it's just how you feel about it.

Not really, if Doomsday rips Ares apart, there's nothing he can do about it. He has no feats to survive that. No one could oppose gods in that era so no mortal had the power to kill Gods because they're all weak compare to Olympus, that's just my theory. But the point is, a lot of mortals can effortlessly beat Ares via feats. Ares hasn't even displayed any kind of healing factor or immortality feats.

According to who? The fight didn't end with a definitive ranking of power or capabilities, it just ended the way most fights would end: the fastest way possible. You are right Superman did not need to sacrifice himself, and I am pretty certain he would have preferred not to, but he rolled low while knowing the risks and that's what happened.

Yes because the 'Godkiller' wasn't what Diana thought it was and shattered against Ares' open palm, thats why it was different, not the same blade. And no, thats not all the logic you need when arguing about the resilience of something that can survive a drop from orbit with no broken bones and which can shrug off the heat and pressure of a nuclear blast. There the logic stops when arguing a regular steel sword could even piece Doomsday's skin... and even more so when wielded by someone as strong as Diana, a single swing from her striking a relatively hard surface could have bent it out of shape or snapped it.

You also dont have any feats to support Doomsday being capable of actually doing that. You want to try and argue that he could because he stabbed Superman? Good luck, Superman was weakened by the Kryptonite. And yes, that is your theory... it's just not supported by anything, thus it remains a theory. Yes, I am sure alot could also beat him in a dick-measuring contest but thats not very useful either in direct conflict.

@outside_85:

According to who? The fight didn't end with a definitive ranking of power or capabilities, it just ended the way most fights would end: the fastest way possible. You are right Superman did not need to sacrifice himself, and I am pretty certain he would have preferred not to, but he rolled low while knowing the risks and that's what happened.

Doomsday would still beat Wonder Woman based on their fight since he would just heal and adapt everytime WW attacks him

Yes because the 'Godkiller' wasn't what Diana thought it was and shattered against Ares' open palm, thats why it was different, not the same blade. And no, thats not all the logic you need when arguing about the resilience of something that can survive a drop from orbit with no broken bones and which can shrug off the heat and pressure of a nuclear blast. There the logic stops when arguing a regular steel sword could even piece Doomsday's skin... and even more so when wielded by someone as strong as Diana, a single swing from her striking a relatively hard surface could have bent it out of shape or snapped it.

How would you know that it was a regular steel? That's obviously not a regular sword.

You also dont have any feats to support Doomsday being capable of actually doing that. You want to try and argue that he could because he stabbed Superman? Good luck, Superman was weakened by the Kryptonite. And yes, that is your theory... it's just not supported by anything, thus it remains a theory. Yes, I am sure alot could also beat him in a dick-measuring contest but thats not very useful either in direct conflict.

Being multiple times stronger than Ares with superior durability feats. None of Ares's attack can even harm Doomsday and he will just adapt again and again.

I already said that wasn't my point. If anything, Doomsday can just absorb Ares's lightning and hit him back with it just like WW did.

He'd find out eventually. This battle is not going to end quickly, and Ares is definitely smarter than Doomsday.

Ares.

Doomsday doesn't have much resistance to magic.

Doomsday is obviously more powerful.

Ares lost to rookie Diana.

The experienced trinity had to tag team Doomsday.

Doomsday

Still Doomsday, Ares was not even match for wonder woman in hand to hands.

Any proof of magic affecting someone specifically? or was it just damage output?

There's no way of knowing how Doomsday would react to Ares lightning attack, which may be magical. His own lightning attack was redirected at him to destroy him, it could have the same effect on Doomsday who won't be able to redirect it. He also has the potential to BFR doomsday like Superman did to Space.

Diana's sword was able to cut doomsday twice where he wasn't able to adapt it.

thats not a prove her sword is magical neither does it prove Ares is having magic affecting other beeings differently than normal damage output. Doomsday was still vulerable to Supermans punches which was not magical punches and he couldnt atapt to it. So nope yet again false.

ends in se....nevermind...

Doomsday wins

Doomsday

Doomsday stomps.

True.

Doomsday

@flashknight: I don't think so.... Ares doesn't even know what krypton is since he basically lives in World War era.

Doomsday FTW

@khael: He's a god, there's a great chance he knows. Krypton's been around for 10s of thousands of years before MoS.

@flashknight: Olympus knows a lot....... about earth because Zeus created it. Even if they knew krypton existed, there's a higher possibility that Ares doesn't even know how Superman's power and weakness work.

Doomsday stomps, a far stronger Diana was only holding her own against Doomsday due to her gear and Supermans support.

People don't realise that Doomsday doesn't need to die to adapt, when Diana cut his arm off he adapted and grew a spike since punches weren't working on them.

Doomsday

Ares can take this due to the nature of his powers.

Ares is a God of War and has violence empowerment. Doomsday is a giant rage monster. Doomsday adaptation makes him extremely hard to kill, but Ares will just keep feeding off DDs anger and getting his stats boosted too, so that basically negates that advantage. He also has matter manipulation and can create swords and helms out of scrap that appear to be much stronger than your average metal.

I could see Ares with superior intelligence and hax finding a way to down DD.

Doomsday by canon statements cannot kill Ares so Ares either wins or its stalemate. Hard to say which one but Ares is not stupid so he might eventually find a way to kill Doomsday once.

Ares can play keep away for a long time but he's not hurting doomsday

doomsday bullrushes

Just god only can kill ares.

Ares wins.

Ares can flip him around but can't actually hurt doomsday. Doomsday has to get in close to actually kill him. But with his powerset, doomsday won't catch him

WW was created to defeat Ares. Although powerful, she is merely a god killer as a technicality, ie the specific intention of Zeus. Ares own blast, turned on him was capable of killing him. And don’t forget WW was blood lusted at the time. Also remember that Ares was forever weakened by Zeus's great blast. In JL, Ares took it to Steppenwolf as well.

Ares would definitely have a lot of trouble with DD, but he wouldn’t be a pushover either. He would project god amped weapons at DD and cut him to pieces, then send a crater blasting strike right into the remaining mangled mess. I def know if Zeus hadn’t injured him, he would crush DD easily, as he was able to wipe out all of the Olympian gods, inc. Artemis and her space cruiser destroying arrows.

Doomsday wrecks.

Doomsday

Ares really got votes though? Doomsday is so far above him it’s comical

Doomsday, how is this even a thread? It's as obvious as night and day.

Doomsday murderstomps.

Re: magic vs Doomsday - this isn't the comics, and even in comics, Doomsday had no weakness to magic. Doomsday adapted to Diana cutting off his hand by growing a spike--which he used to kill Superman (thanks a lot, Di).

Re: Ares creating kryptonite - how the hell would Ares even know what kryptonite is, much less how to make it?

Re: Diana doing better vs Doomsday than Clark - Doomsday focused most of his attention on Clark. Diana got most of her shots in when Doomsday was distracted by Superman. And she never took a direct hit from Doomsday because she had her shield.

Re: Ares lightning vs Doomsday - yeah, go ahead and power Doomsday up with a blast of energy.

This mostly depends on how her old sword compares to her new sword. If it was as good, then Ares stomps. If it wasn't, Doomsday stomps.

This is a big mismatch... Ares gets slaughtered by Doomsday! If you had added Kurse and Thanos to Ares' side, then this could've been a REAL fight. But otherwise, Ares gets killed by Doomsday... 🤦🏻

Doomsday LITERALLY one-shots the God that Wonder Woman beat with ease...