Poll DCEU Aquaman vs MCU Black Panther/Killmonger (160 votes)
- Post Aqauman, IW
- Standard Gear
- Battle takes place in Sicily
- Good teamwork between duo
- Win by Ko, Death or Incap
- No bfr
Neither of team 2 can solo...
On land they have a genuine chance at winning, however, with, as per OP it is post-Aquaman Arthur, he should be able to win at least a slight majority, has a superior weapon than what he used during most of the movie, one powerful, ancient, magical weapon. Has better stats in almost every aspect and can basically baseball-bat one of them with the trident far enough to just stay 1v1 for brief moments, wearing them out as time passes. He certainly has the blunt force durability and the strength and stamina to outlast both.
Arthur 6.5/10
Neither of team 2 can solo...
On land they have a genuine chance at winning, however, with, as per OP it is post-Aquaman Arthur, he should be able to win at least a slight majority, has a superior weapon than what he used during most of the movie, one powerful, ancient, magical weapon. Has better stats in almost every aspect and can basically baseball-bat one of them with the trident far enough to just stay 1v1 for brief moments, wearing them out as time passes. He certainly has the blunt force durability and the strength and stamina to outlast both.
Arthur stomps
True
On land they kill him he has better stats but not high enough
@TheGrat1: why would they punch? They have vibranium claws for a reason
Aquaman curbs.
Aquaman just drowns both in a tidal wave.
I don't recall Aquaman displaying hyrdokenesis like Mera. He stopped the tidal wave in justice league and he learned how to do that trick Vulko showed him but he's never summoned a tidal wave from my memory.
EDIT: I also doubt Aquaman would just flood a city full of innocent people in character.
Ask Cull Obsidian.
I am not saying that they can not win here, just saying their punches wont be much of an issue for him.
@mrnoital: let’s say the trident can pierce vibranium he might skewer one of them. But by then the other would kill him
He shouldn’t have trouble with one but with 2 he dies
@miekskywalker: how does one just get an automatic kill when Arthur has a much better h2h weapon and better stats
@mrnoital: by slicing his throat, cull had much better stats than bp doesn’t stop bp from being able to fight him
We don’t know for sure if the trident can pierce vibranium but vibranium would easily pierce him
@miekskywalker: Culls stats were pretty questionable, he was stomping Ironman like nothing, but his weapon seemed pretty much incapable of hurting spiderman who stopped it pretty much as easy as he stopped Winter Soldiers arm
what exactly are his claws best feats? that one time he popped a tire? he never really uses them in battle and now he's just gonna get an instant kill against a weapon with much better reach?
@mrnoital: caps shield got scratched for nothing?
He wasn’t cutting outriders down?
Also Spider-Man is strong, him stopping culls swing is a feat for himself not anti feat for cull.
Unless Arthur has his trident the Panthers can win
LOL it's his standard gear
@miekskywalker: it did cosmetic damage to caps shield, it basically just scratched the paint
I actually don't recall his quarter inch nails taking down any outriders, pretty sure he was mostly punching
and going by previous fights, Spidermans about as strong as Captain America, they stright up had a tug of war and it was close
are we just assuming Cap and spidey are around Hulk strength now, cause that seems to be where people place Cull, even if he doesn't have the feats for it
@imperialbuttlicker: Then he wins
@mrnoital: spiderman is stronger than cap
He was casuallly holding winter soldiers arm who is caps equal in strength
Also bp had his claws out in the army and his general used her spear which is vibranium and his whole army. He doesn’t need the feat himself of vibranium cutting outriders.
@miekskywalker: if you don't understand how a spear can kill something half inch nails can't, then I'm done here
They're fast enough to dodge his spear lmao
He got his ass kicked by someone vastly less skilled than Panther
He gets annihilated by the Wakandans
Aquaman wins pretty solidly. Vastly superior stats, a weapon with a longer reach, at least good enough skill, and he's wearing armor on top of his already piercing resistant skin. I also don't see why his trident, which destroyed the trident that destroyed the trident that pierced Steppenwolf's armor, wouldn't pierce their armor as well, which means he can go for one hit kills while they are maybe giving him small cuts.
@mrnoital: claws not nails. And bp killed outriders just like everyone else
@miekskywalker: yeah, with power punches like cap
@mrnoital: cap also had vibranium spiked shields
@miekskywalker: I always find it funny when people call those spikes or blades, they were shields not spikes
he used powerful blunt strikes
feel free to post a video or gif of Panther actually using his nails to kill anyone
@mrnoital: the previous Black Panther one-shotted his bro...Bucky was also almost killed by the claws if not for Wanda's interference. The claws also scratched Cap's shield which can tank grenades, disintegration blasts, Mjolnir strikes, and repulsor blasts. While the trident is likely able to pierce things deeper, it's Aquaman's skin itself that may be vulnerable to claws. Just like despite the durability of the suits, the trident may be able to pierce due to it's material and Aquaman's strength. But the trident has been broken in a way vibranium hasn't, so I think this match is close and really depends on how the weapons and users interact.
@rebake: pretty sure that happened off screen cause it actually doesn't make sense, with how long the claws are they wouldn't even go further than the ribs
and nice list of things the shield took, but all his claws did was scratch the paint and not do any real damage
and that was the old trident, the new trident is made from something else that was apparently the source of unlimited energy that caused Atlantis to sink and give all Atlanteans the ability to breathe underwater and is much much better than his last trident that was broken
going for the throat worked on bucky, but he could only do that after overpowering him and beating him in h2h, which he won't have a chance against someone physically stronger and at least as talented with a weapon that has much better reach
@mrnoital: no, look closer, the claws affected the texture of the shield. Perhaps the new trident is stronger, but I can't confirm that. I do think it has better control and manipulation, but that can be separate from durability.
The issue is that this is 2 vibranium clad fighters. Bucky would be dead in seconds taking on both at once. Aquaman will have the trouble of knocking one back and possibly getting slashed by another. Atlanteans metal is strong, but doesn't to my knowledge have the same advantages as vibranium, like vibration absorption and near immunity to blunt force. He's not likely tanking vibranium claw attacks since Black Manta with less strength than BP was able to stab him with what we'll consider equal to vibranium in damage output for argument's sake. Based on what I've seen, this fight should take time. Both sides have a way to wear down the other. I'd definitely bet on Aquaman if it was 1v1, but many times an additional fighter that can actually do serious damage can turn the fight around. If Aquaman had more piercing durability (not that he's weak in that category), he wouldn't have trouble. But special metal does cause him trouble. The duo is not safe either and can be worn down, but they probably aren't getting one-shotted via trident as even vibranium weapons can't reliably break the armor. It's an endurance fight IMO. However, I may go with Aquaman if there's a feat with the gold trident that is so much better than I remember (with calcs) or a future trident feat proves it can easily get past vibranium armor. Aquaman probably hasn't unlocked its full power yet.
@rebake: what makes you think Manta had less strength than Panther?
Manta was in an Atlantean Power suit, someone else wearing something similar to it ran through a bunch of walls as if they were made of paper
and the tridents are pretty hard to try to calc, I wouldn't trust a calc if someone made one, Orms trident tore through the entire side of a nuclear sub with ease, and Aquamans new trident absolutely shattered it
it might even have magical properties considering it's called poisidons steel and we know the greek gods were real in their universe, we don't know the tridents true potential
we do know it was apparently the source of unlimited energy that caused Atlantis to sink and mutated all atlanteans to be able to breathe underwater
also we don't know BPs suits limitations, in theory those suits make them pretty much invincible, but on screen, a powerful enough hit that sends them flying means they have trouble trying to get back in a fight right away
really this fight can go any way the writer would want given the suits limitations seem to based purely on plot
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