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#1 Edited by Firedude17 (1483 posts) - - Show Bio

Fight takes place near the surface of a beach.

Airport team consists of:

Iron Man(IW)

War Machine

Cap(IW)

Winter Soldier

Falcon

Spider-Man

Black Panther

Black Widow

Hawkeye

Standard gear for all fighters. Aquaman has the Trident of Atlantis.

Who wins?

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#2 Posted by TonyMartial (7842 posts) - - Show Bio

Rhodes can take this, the rest die

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#3 Posted by Aqualion0 (775 posts) - - Show Bio

Iron duo ftw. Rest are fodder.

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#4 Posted by KingLouie (2812 posts) - - Show Bio

I heard he wasn't bulletproof gg

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#6 Posted by uugieboogie (13015 posts) - - Show Bio

Tony or Rhodes could solo

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#7 Posted by darthvaderrocks (1070 posts) - - Show Bio

Rhodes solos.

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#8 Edited by Lan_Fan (12666 posts) - - Show Bio

@kinglouie: He's completely bulletproof, and can't be pierced by regular metal sword. His skin is solid hard.

OT: Also, Aquaman could potentially get overwhelmed by Iron Man. None of them should be able to survive his trident though.

Edit: Takes place in a beach? Aquaman wins.

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#9 Posted by Tenguswordsman (1670 posts) - - Show Bio

Didn't the Director state that he can be pierced by Firearms?

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#10 Edited by Pyrogram (46545 posts) - - Show Bio

Arthur was staggered, arguably injured by a simple grenade launcher - Rhodes and Iron Man both have weaponry far beyond that. Unlike others I feel that Aquaman actually made Arthur substanticslly less powerful in terms of his durability. His heat/energy resistance is so bad now Thor’s lighting would probably KO him. He was being 1v1 by a man by feats not as strong as Captain America. He loses this badly.

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#11 Posted by Nucleon (2318 posts) - - Show Bio

Can't Spider Man solo this?

The question here is how much of the fight will take place in the water, where I guess only Iron Man can fight (War Machine, with his conventional arsenal, won't be useful). But Iron is indeed a match for Aquaman in any way or form: He would lose in the water, and win out of it.

Out of the water, there's like 4 characters on the Avengers side that can give him a viable one on one.

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#12 Posted by GXrevs06 (3942 posts) - - Show Bio

Arthur was lifting 1000 ton subs like it was no big deal. He stomps.

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#13 Posted by Glavene (119 posts) - - Show Bio

Either Black Panther, Iron Man, War Machine or Spiderman can solo, maybe Wanda too depending on starting distance, others are fodder.

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#14 Posted by CyberpunkCop (1918 posts) - - Show Bio

@glavene said:

Either Black Panther, Iron Man, War Machine or Spiderman can solo, maybe Wanda too depending on starting distance, others are fodder.

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#15 Posted by Chimeroid (9169 posts) - - Show Bio

@pyrogram said:

Arthur was staggered, arguably injured by a simple grenade launcher - Rhodes and Iron Man both have weaponry far beyond that. Unlike others I feel that Aquaman actually made Arthur substanticslly less powerful in terms of his durability. His heat/energy resistance is so bad now Thor’s lighting would probably KO him. He was being 1v1 by a man by feats not as strong as Captain America. He loses this badly.

Didn't see the movie yet, so i am relying only on what i have heard. Did Aquaman get hurt by a grenade launcher? Bleeding? Broken Bones? Bruises? Or did he just get staggered?

@glavene said:

Either Black Panther, Iron Man, War Machine or Spiderman can solo, maybe Wanda too depending on starting distance, others are fodder.

No. he crushes BP and Spiderman without a chance for a debate.

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#16 Edited by Pyrogram (46545 posts) - - Show Bio

@chimeroid: It blasted him backwards, smashed him into a wall, and caused him to lie on the floor for a few seconds as though it really hurt. He got up and didn’t appear visually injured. He was more or less treated the same as Black Panther when he got caught by the grenade launcher. Flew backwards and got tremendously staggered, but not too ‘hurt’. Starks tank missiles going by a grenade launcher would do damage to Arthur. Also, Black Mantas energy attack was less powerful than Starks laser cutter again, Stark would hurt Arthur with that. Black Manta was able to keep up with Arthur hand to hand as well as physically cause his skin to burn off with his heat attack.

The movie lowered Arthur’s durability tbh Black Mantra tagged Arthur H2H, Black Panther could do that easily and his claws would pierce by feats.

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#17 Edited by CyberpunkCop (1918 posts) - - Show Bio

@chimeroid: Just like he crushed Black Mata??? or that Soldier who knocked him out??? both T'challa and Peter beat him decisively

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#18 Edited by plotweapon16255 (6998 posts) - - Show Bio

@pyrogram said:

@chimeroid: It blasted him backwards, smashed him into a wall, and caused him to lie on the floor for a few seconds as though it really hurt. He got up and didn’t appear visually injured. He was more or less treated the same as Black Panther when he got caught by the grenade launcher. Flew backwards and got tremendously staggered, but not too ‘hurt’. Starks tank missiles going by a grenade launcher would do damage to Arthur. Also, Black Mantas energy attack was less powerful than Starks laser cutter again, Stark would hurt Arthur with that. Black Manta was able to keep up with Arthur hand to hand as well as physically cause his skin to burn off with his heat attack.

The movie lowered Arthur’s durabilitytbh Black Mantra tagged Arthur H2H, Black Panther could do that easily and his claws would pierce by feats.

U do remember that even the prototype of BM's laser was able to bust giant rock which is beyond Ironman's energy capabilities.

& At best BP can scratch his skin that was barely phased by bullet.

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#19 Posted by Pyrogram (46545 posts) - - Show Bio
@pyrogram said:

@chimeroid: It blasted him backwards, smashed him into a wall, and caused him to lie on the floor for a few seconds as though it really hurt. He got up and didn’t appear visually injured. He was more or less treated the same as Black Panther when he got caught by the grenade launcher. Flew backwards and got tremendously staggered, but not too ‘hurt’. Starks tank missiles going by a grenade launcher would do damage to Arthur. Also, Black Mantas energy attack was less powerful than Starks laser cutter again, Stark would hurt Arthur with that. Black Manta was able to keep up with Arthur hand to hand as well as physically cause his skin to burn off with his heat attack.

The movie lowered Arthur’s durabilitytbh Black Mantra tagged Arthur H2H, Black Panther could do that easily and his claws would pierce by feats.

U do remember that even the prototype of BM's laser was able to bust giant rock which is beyond Ironman's energy capabilities.

& At best BP can scratch his skin that was barely phased by bullet.

The 'prototype' was arguably stronger than BM's laser - The 'prototype' was significantly larger. That, plus it never demonstrated that type of busting attack afterwards. I'd argue it was weakened when BM modified it to fit onto his helmet.

There's no reason BP wouldn't be able to tear through Arthur. Atlantean steel has no feats that puts it above Vibranium and a human being was able to slice Arthur easily. Black Panther is stronger than a human + has a sharper weapon.

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#20 Posted by Cahddz (85 posts) - - Show Bio

Iron Man solos. Ant Man solos. War Machine solos. Wanda Solos. Vision Solos.

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#21 Edited by cromulor (1832 posts) - - Show Bio

Tony or Rhodey solo, Rhodey would stomp if he’s in his IW suit too. T’Challa and Peter could also put up amazing fights.

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#22 Edited by plotweapon16255 (6998 posts) - - Show Bio

@pyrogram said:

The 'prototype' was arguably stronger than BM's laser - The 'prototype' was significantly larger. That, plus it never demonstrated that type of busting attack afterwards. I'd argue it was weakened when BM modified it to fit onto his helmet.

It's still way more powerful then Ironman's energy attack Considering that those laser was able to make more damage the then the grenade he took that was able to put a hole in the submarine.

There's no reason BP wouldn't be able to tear through Arthur. Atlantean steel has no feats that puts it above Vibranium and a human being was able to slice Arthur easily. Black Panther is stronger than a human + has a sharper weapon.

Feat wise Atlantean's steel can cut through a submarine easily & penetrate Steppenwolf armor something BP can only dream.

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#23 Posted by Helloman (26663 posts) - - Show Bio

The airport team wins.

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#24 Posted by Chimeroid (9169 posts) - - Show Bio

@chimeroid: Just like he crushed Black Mata??? or that Soldier who knocked him out??? both T'challa and Peter beat him decisively

As i said, i didn't watch the movie yet. But Aquaman's feats against Steppenwolf and the Sub feat make him way too strong for Spiderman or T'Challa. T'Challa was rocked by a Rhino. Arthur is at least 10,000 times stronger than that. He could potentially oneshot BP through BP's suit and he would definitely one-shot Peter.

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#25 Posted by Chimeroid (9169 posts) - - Show Bio

@pyrogram said:

@chimeroid: It blasted him backwards, smashed him into a wall, and caused him to lie on the floor for a few seconds as though it really hurt. He got up and didn’t appear visually injured. He was more or less treated the same as Black Panther when he got caught by the grenade launcher. Flew backwards and got tremendously staggered, but not too ‘hurt’. Starks tank missiles going by a grenade launcher would do damage to Arthur. Also, Black Mantas energy attack was less powerful than Starks laser cutter again, Stark would hurt Arthur with that. Black Manta was able to keep up with Arthur hand to hand as well as physically cause his skin to burn off with his heat attack.

The movie lowered Arthur’s durability tbh Black Mantra tagged Arthur H2H, Black Panther could do that easily and his claws would pierce by feats.

The bolded part seems like Low-balling. I mean, if i made a case that IM was a Cap-level character due to the ending of Civil War, you would vote to have me hanged for the low-ball. Aquaman still has a plethora of awesome durability feats you can't just chuck away due to a fight with manta.

Regarding feats of claws - Arthur's armor took a blow from Steppenwolf's axe, a weapon far more formidable (even in cutting power) than T'Challa's claws. Arthur no-sells.

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#26 Edited by Pyrogram (46545 posts) - - Show Bio

@chimeroid: He now also has a plethora of low-tier feats that can't be seen as outliers as it happened so often. His power levels were widely inconsistent within the movie so makes the battle forum hard to gauge if people are honest with themselves. The movie was silly and the power levels were a bit like Thanos - they adapted to whoever he was fighting.

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#27 Posted by Cahddz (85 posts) - - Show Bio

@pyrogram said:

Arthur was staggered, arguably injured by a simple grenade launcher - Rhodes and Iron Man both have weaponry far beyond that. Unlike others I feel that Aquaman actually made Arthur substanticslly less powerful in terms of his durability. His heat/energy resistance is so bad now Thor’s lighting would probably KO him. He was being 1v1 by a man by feats not as strong as Captain America. He loses this badly.

Didn't see the movie yet, so i am relying only on what i have heard. Did Aquaman get hurt by a grenade launcher? Bleeding? Broken Bones? Bruises? Or did he just get staggered?

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@glavene said:

Either Black Panther, Iron Man, War Machine or Spiderman can solo, maybe Wanda too depending on starting distance, others are fodder.

No. he crushes BP and Spiderman without a chance for a debate.

No. Arthur would lose to BP and Spiderman.

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#28 Posted by X_insignia1 (1861 posts) - - Show Bio

FYI the submarine Arthur lifted was nuclear so it's between 30,000 to 48,000 tons.

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#29 Posted by Cahddz (85 posts) - - Show Bio

FYI the submarine Arthur lifted was nuclear so it's between 30,000 to 48,000 tons.

Did he lift it underwater?

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#30 Posted by plotweapon16255 (6998 posts) - - Show Bio

@cahddz said:
@x_insignia1 said:

FYI the submarine Arthur lifted was nuclear so it's between 30,000 to 48,000 tons.

Did he lift it underwater?

Why does it matter?

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#31 Posted by Cahddz (85 posts) - - Show Bio

@cahddz said:
@x_insignia1 said:

FYI the submarine Arthur lifted was nuclear so it's between 30,000 to 48,000 tons.

Did he lift it underwater?

Why does it matter?

Because if he lifted it underwater than the feat doesn't matter.

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#32 Posted by plotweapon16255 (6998 posts) - - Show Bio

@cahddz said:
@plotweapon16255 said:

Why does it matter?

Because if he lifted it underwater than the feat doesn't matter.

Why?

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#33 Edited by ThEBeStOfTheBeST (9211 posts) - - Show Bio

He crushes the street levelers. Loses the IW Iron Man.

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#34 Posted by Cahddz (85 posts) - - Show Bio

@cahddz said:
@plotweapon16255 said:

Why does it matter?

Because if he lifted it underwater than the feat doesn't matter.

Why?

Because water takes almost all the weight away from an object.

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#35 Posted by plotweapon16255 (6998 posts) - - Show Bio

@cahddz said:
@plotweapon16255 said:
@cahddz said:
@plotweapon16255 said:

Why does it matter?

Because if he lifted it underwater than the feat doesn't matter.

Why?

Because water takes almost all the weight away from an object.

Then go & lift titanic out of water.

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#38 Posted by WhyZoSerious (1588 posts) - - Show Bio

Iron man solos

War machine solos

Falcon solos

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#39 Posted by Chimeroid (9169 posts) - - Show Bio

@cahddz said:
@plotweapon16255 said:
@cahddz said:
@plotweapon16255 said:

Why does it matter?

Because if he lifted it underwater than the feat doesn't matter.

Why?

Because water takes almost all the weight away from an object.

Really? Do you really think that? Are you in any way, shape or form being serious? I can't even begin to explain why your sentence is wrong.

Any way, during the feat, the submarine was outside of the water for well over 10 feet. Making it a fully legitimate feat of lifting something without the "assistance" of water.

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#40 Edited by Cahddz (85 posts) - - Show Bio

@chimeroid said:
@cahddz said:
@plotweapon16255 said:
@cahddz said:
@plotweapon16255 said:

Why does it matter?

Because if he lifted it underwater than the feat doesn't matter.

Why?

Because water takes almost all the weight away from an object.

Really? Do you really think that? Are you in any way, shape or form being serious? I can't even begin to explain why your sentence is wrong.

Any way, during the feat, the submarine was outside of the water for well over 10 feet. Making it a fully legitimate feat of lifting something without the "assistance" of water.

It's physics, and we can still discredit it as a legitimate feat because the water allowed him to build the momentum he needed to push it into the air.

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#41 Posted by Chimeroid (9169 posts) - - Show Bio

@pyrogram said:

@chimeroid: He now also has a plethora of low-tier feats that can't be seen as outliers as it happened so often. His power levels were widely inconsistent within the movie so makes the battle forum hard to gauge if people are honest with themselves. The movie was silly and the power levels were a bit like Thanos - they adapted to whoever he was fighting.

I'll come back to you once i watch the film. (currently snowed in, so i can't go to the cinema).

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#42 Posted by plotweapon16255 (6998 posts) - - Show Bio

@cahddz said:
@chimeroid said:
@cahddz said:
@plotweapon16255 said:
@cahddz said:
@plotweapon16255 said:

Why does it matter?

Because if he lifted it underwater than the feat doesn't matter.

Why?

Because water takes almost all the weight away from an object.

Really? Do you really think that? Are you in any way, shape or form being serious? I can't even begin to explain why your sentence is wrong.

Any way, during the feat, the submarine was outside of the water for well over 10 feet. Making it a fully legitimate feat of lifting something without the "assistance" of water.

It's physics.

It's bullshit.

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#43 Posted by Cahddz (85 posts) - - Show Bio

@cahddz said:
@chimeroid said:
@cahddz said:
@plotweapon16255 said:
@cahddz said:
@plotweapon16255 said:

Why does it matter?

Because if he lifted it underwater than the feat doesn't matter.

Why?

Because water takes almost all the weight away from an object.

Really? Do you really think that? Are you in any way, shape or form being serious? I can't even begin to explain why your sentence is wrong.

Any way, during the feat, the submarine was outside of the water for well over 10 feet. Making it a fully legitimate feat of lifting something without the "assistance" of water.

It's physics.

It's bullshit.

Physics and reported.

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#44 Posted by plotweapon16255 (6998 posts) - - Show Bio

#ignored.

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#45 Posted by Chimeroid (9169 posts) - - Show Bio

@cahddz said:
@chimeroid said:
@cahddz said:
@plotweapon16255 said:
@cahddz said:
@plotweapon16255 said:

Why does it matter?

Because if he lifted it underwater than the feat doesn't matter.

Why?

Because water takes almost all the weight away from an object.

Really? Do you really think that? Are you in any way, shape or form being serious? I can't even begin to explain why your sentence is wrong.

Any way, during the feat, the submarine was outside of the water for well over 10 feet. Making it a fully legitimate feat of lifting something without the "assistance" of water.

It's physics.

I fully know it's physics. But you are painfully wrong.

1. Water doesn't remove all the weight. It removes 1 ton per cubic meter due to it's density. Also, it's not weight it removes, but it is the amount of weight it can support as you lift something. I mean, it's a lot more complicated than this explanation, but i don't think you would get the more detailed guide.

2. Water adds resistance. Yes, it's easier to slowly lift something through water, but moving anything through water with speed is 8 times more difficult than through air.

3. Aquaman was moving incredibly quickly and, at the end, the submarine broke the surface and moved out in the air. According to your "physics" once the sub was no longer in the water, it was no longeru nder the effect of "becoming weightless".

Seriously, go study physics before you spout nonsense like that.

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#46 Posted by Chimeroid (9169 posts) - - Show Bio

@cahddz:Oh, and if you edit posts to add more shit in, please put a note that says "Edit:" Before you continue writing. It's really distasteful that you added "counters' into existing posts.

Also, water wouldn't help him build momentum. he wasn't pushing out a beach ball, he was pushing a submarine with negative buoyancy. But, i feel like explaining buoyancy to you might be a waste of time.

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#47 Posted by Cahddz (85 posts) - - Show Bio

@cahddz:Oh, and if you edit posts to add more shit in, please put a note that says "Edit:" Before you continue writing. It's really distasteful that you added "counters' into existing posts.

Also, water wouldn't help him build momentum. he wasn't pushing out a beach ball, he was pushing a submarine with negative buoyancy. But, i feel like explaining buoyancy to you might be a waste of time.

No thanks. The water allowed him to build the momentum he needed to push it into the air.

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#48 Posted by Chimeroid (9169 posts) - - Show Bio

@cahddz said:
@chimeroid said:

@cahddz:Oh, and if you edit posts to add more shit in, please put a note that says "Edit:" Before you continue writing. It's really distasteful that you added "counters' into existing posts.

Also, water wouldn't help him build momentum. he wasn't pushing out a beach ball, he was pushing a submarine with negative buoyancy. But, i feel like explaining buoyancy to you might be a waste of time.

No thanks. The water allowed him to build the momentum he needed to push it into the air.

Please, do explain how water would help him build momentum for a submarine that had negative buoyancy at near-surface levels.

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#49 Posted by Cahddz (85 posts) - - Show Bio

@cahddz said:
@chimeroid said:

@cahddz:Oh, and if you edit posts to add more shit in, please put a note that says "Edit:" Before you continue writing. It's really distasteful that you added "counters' into existing posts.

Also, water wouldn't help him build momentum. he wasn't pushing out a beach ball, he was pushing a submarine with negative buoyancy. But, i feel like explaining buoyancy to you might be a waste of time.

No thanks. The water allowed him to build the momentum he needed to push it into the air.

Please, do explain how water would help him build momentum for a submarine that had negative buoyancy at near-surface levels.

Lifting is easier when the object is submerged in water.

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#50 Posted by Chimeroid (9169 posts) - - Show Bio

@cahddz: Are you trolling me or are you just illiterate? did you read my previous posts? realistically, water would remove up to 30% of the Sub's weight. But, moving it quickly through water would return around 560% of that weightback to Aquaman's shoulders. Stay in school kid. I will be blocking you, not that it would matter since you won't be staying on the Vine for long anyway.