@quotang: Sarcasm? If not then thank you.
Nope. Just handing out a compliment.
@quotang: Sarcasm? If not then thank you.
Nope. Just handing out a compliment.
@metaljimmor: and that brings us back to the topic at hand. If Atlantean tech was only able to slightly injure Arthur while being used by a human with little experience, then Tony is going to dominate Arthur using tech with superior feats and having actual experience.
I'd argue Black Manta has demonstrated superior hand to hand combat ability than Tony has. He also took Arthur off guard, had bladed weapons to pierce Arthur's body, and did the most damage to him with a plasma blast.
All of which are options Tony doesn't have here. It is a pure fisticuffs fight as per the OP and I don't recall many good punching feats from Ironman that suggest he could easily down someone with Arthur's durability.
Though ultimately I feel the fight could go either way. Tony might have an edge in durability due to Arthur's best feats all being trident related which would give him the majority.
@metaljimmor: Tony's showing against Thanos puts him higher than Black Manta in H2H and in durability.
in durability sure, but I disagree about skill. Tony has become a competent combatant with access to his weapons, but he's still not quite a martial artist like Bucky, Widow, or Cap. Black Manta did quite admirably against a vastly superior Aquaman in their first fight. There was nothing he could do to hurt Arthur but he still managed to make himself a nuisance with martial arts skill alone.
@metaljimmor: the same could be said about Tony. There's nothing he could do to significantly harm Thanos, but using his improved h2h abilities he was able to draw blood.
He did that through use of his suit's nanobots and h2h. If he did the same combo on Arthur, it would ko him for sure.
It was mostly a result of his nanobots. Tony lasted all of a few seconds against Thanos in hand to hand and caught him off guard with the unnatural movements and shapeshifting power of his armor enough to get a single decent hit in. He got wrecked for the rest of that fight.
Also remember that Tony was getting his butt handed to him by Cap and Bucky despite a massive stat advantage and a computer literally analyzing their fighting style and feeding Tony counter maneuvers.
Tony isn't a martial artist. Black Manta demonstrably is.
I am not sure if the OP intends for Tony to have his nanobot shapeshifting in this battle. It isn't really a fisticuffs fight if he can generate blades from his arms, in which case yah he'd probably beat an unarmed Arthur.
@metaljimmor: the limits are no flight or ranged weapons. That seems pretty clear on what Tony can and can't use. The nano suit should keep all its functions because Tony can use the repulsors and thrusters in CQC, just not to fly around or go for long range attacks.
Unless the OP clarifies this further, I'm comfortable in saying that Tony wins with low difficulty.
@noone1996: That hook honestly is overrated, its not enough to suggest he can put down Aquaman as all he did was annoy Cull. And before you bring up him making Thanos bleed, that was all of the attacks on Titan he took and the Titan Avengers only made a drop of blood in the end.
@thegerudoking: @metaljimmor: to clarify guys, no repulsars, Blades, lasers or any other Hax for Tony. Just a straight up Fist Fight.
I’m on my phone now, but once I get home I’ll edit it
@skywalker95: Tony’s suit has a measure of shape shifting, is that allowed? Ppl say tony wins because he made thanos bleed but he turned his arm into a blade to do it, is this battle just fists or can Tony use the shape shifting abilities?
Edit: nvm you literally just specified that. In that case Arthur is stronger, similarly skilled but faster. Arthur wins in a fist fight
@firestarlord73194: just Fists, no shapeshifting
Damn, Tony has too much hax lol
@firestarlord73194: Tony didn't make Thanos bleed by using a bladed object. He did it through blunt force.
That was a combination of energy + blunt + nano, you can see the object glowing with energy as he hits Thanos.
Also with straight h2h and no hax, I can see Aquaman winning, one right hook from Thanos damaged his mask pretty badly. The last time we saw Tony in a pure h2h battle (Civil War) he got his stuff rocked pretty badly.
@tonymartial: He dazed him for seconds with a casual punch. What happened when he got hit like this?
As for Thanos, yeah I'm sure Spider-Man, Nebula, Starlord, a space ship crashing into him, and Iron Man's explosives really softened his cheek up real good. Pointing out that street levelers and explosions weakened or dried out his face to make his cheek more susceptible to bleeding is just such a low budget argument. When he said, "all that for a drop of blood" he was basically commenting on how Tony was attacking him for a good 2-3 minutes and exerting himself, yet all he got back was a tiny gash in the cheek.
@x_insignia1: I agree. I was just correcting the other guy who said he made Thanos bleed using a bladed object.
@x_insignia1: I agree. I was just correcting the other guy who said he made Thanos bleed using a bladed object.
@x_insignia1: I agree. I was just correcting the other guy who said he made Thanos bleed using a bladed object.
@thegerudoking: I agree, I was just correcting the other guy who said he made Thanos bleed using a bladed object.
Pretty sure he heard you the first time, lol.
@thanos_thebadas: that was my bad. It didn't want to load so I posted it again but by that time the other post loaded so it got put multiple times.
@thegerudoking: Lol, its cool, it happened to me once too.
the limits are no flight or ranged weapons. That seems pretty clear on what Tony can and can't use. The nano suit should keep all its functions because Tony can use the repulsors and thrusters in CQC, just not to fly around or go for long range attacks.
Unless the OP clarifies this further, I'm comfortable in saying that Tony wins with low difficulty.
Looks like we got the clarification. I think it'd ultimately be a pretty long, dragged out fight that could go either way, but leaning toward Tony due to his sheer durability. Arthur is lacking in fist based striking feats.
@metaljimmor: yeah reducing him to just punches and kicks without the aid of anything else limits Tony in what he can do offensively. But defensively he should be able to hold out long enough to get the win.
Iron Man stomps still he can literally just sit there and tank everything from Aquaman with no damage
@jmal17: Rewatch the Thor vs Ironman fight in avengers 1. Ironman did pretty well.
If its pure h2h, then Arthur wins. Tony can't dish anything out that can hurt him, and his h2h is crap compared to Arthur's.
@deltahuman: How does stark have an advantage at all?
@deltahuman: He can't fly, its h2h only.
@deltahuman: He can't use anything that his suit has except his fists
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