DC VS Marvel Herald Tier

Team DC lol stomps. Dr fate solos. Captain atom solos.

Dc

Atom and especially Fate can solo

DC, Fate being MVP.

@firstfirmament: @emmafrostxmen: @wollfmyth209: @supermanthor: @soratoumiga: @omnipotent94: The Immortal Hulk can curbstomp Doctor Strange while Kent V. Nelson can't so without Nabu I think that DC team will need a lot of skill to survive against the overwhelming brute force of the heavily buffed versions of Hulk and Colossus. Big Barda is a bit weaker than Wonder Woman but she's more versatile, just like Captain Atom and Lobo compared to good old Superman. And Doctor Fate is indeed the most powerful participant in this fight will good luck and prep but he'll definitely need help from his teammates to use his amazing potential before he turns into tomato sauce because Nova is almost as strong as Lobo and Captain Atom but too much faster so Fate's definitely not soloing in this fight.

DC

Hulk turns lobo into Swiss cheese. Then lobo regenerates one shotting hulk because lobo is outerversal

@banecapital: When did Hulk beat Dr Strange?

DC

Team 1.

@xlr87t3: The World War Hulk, who is much weaker than the World Breaker, has easily beaten Doctor Strange, while the Immortal Hulk is at least as powerful as the World Breaker.

DC.

Fate alone can give them a good fight.

How the hell is Ronan, Nova, Colossus, Loboh, Big Barda and Dr. Fate Heralds?

Bullshit. Doctor Strange was jobbing, and had he wished could have probably outright oneshot Hulk and says as much. Strange didn't even want to kill Hulk in that encounter, he was trying to help him. Even after Hulk took away his ability to cast most of his magic by smashing his hands when Strange's guard down, he still got the shit beaten out of him until Strange literally gave up because he was going out of control

There is literally no way any version of Hulk is capable of beating Strange

@decaf_wizard: @baph: @nitelite: https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/hulk-187/how-did-hulk-beat-dr-strange-1488253/

@baph: Well what do Ronan, Nova, Lobo and Big Barda all have in common? Maybe each of them is a very powerful individual intergalactic warrior that is the very definition of a herald. This Colossus is buffed with the powers of Juggernaut who's not much weaker than a herald. And Doctor Fate is a slightly superior version of Doctor Strange, whose close association with Silver Surfer as a member of the Defenders proves that his level is only narrowly below a herald's.

@banecapital: That is not the definition of a herald.

Fate solos.

And some of these guys aren't herald tiers.

Fate solos

From what I hear fate should be far above the people here.

@chiq: @supermanthor: @takenstew22: @baph: @katrurius17: DC's lacking brute force so that's why Fate's needed against Hulk, Colossus, Ronan and Nova since Barda, Lobo and Captain Atom are more effective in utility rather than fighting like their Marvel opponents so being supposedly more powerful doesn't guarantee them a win.

Not even sure what hulk doing here lol ?

DC team got this

@termiteone4ever: I think you're an obsessed hater of Hulk even if we're talking about two different versions of him:

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/soulfire-darkseid-and-trigon-vs-dark-phoenix-and-s-2031374/

@randomguy287: https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/abaddon-and-ahriman-vs-ragnar-blackmane-and-helbre-2033154/

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/hulk-and-iron-man-vs-kratos-and-spawn-2032954/

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/kylo-ren-vs-iron-man-2031368/

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/team-apocalypse-vs-team-darkseid-2001471/

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/sephiroth-and-cole-macgrath-vs-ganon-and-kratos-2029618/

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/captain-atom-vs-grail-2029617/

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/hulk-and-doctor-strange-vs-zatanna-and-lobo-2032967/

No one's stomping anyone here.

Good battle actually.

BB Vs Ronan, hell of a battle that could go either way IMO. Ronan alot of times is underestimated by people on boards but he's not a pushover in the least. On the other hand so is BB. I'm just going to say toss up really

Hulk Vs Lobo, assuming using lobo at his best levels also, in which case this battle just goes on indefinitely really. Maybe eventually Hulk KO's him at best

Nova vs Captain Atom

This is Interesting actually, Atom potentially is a beast but isn't like that alot of the times and nova with worldmind and such helping can think on his feat good. Honestly this is another toss up IMO, rider at very least puts up a good showing for himself

Fate vs Colossus

This is really the main battle that decides things. Normally I would say eventually fate just can't stop him and eventually gets broken. But your giving a week of prep, he should be able to come up with something that can remove or overcome his immense mystical shielding. He then helps where needed.

So DC wins because of Fate and the prep factor

@annamalhouse: It's actually more like Big Barda VS Hulk (powerhouses), Lobo VS Ronan (space warriors), Nova VS Fate (great ranged attack power and versatility but weak durability) and Captain Atom VS Colossus (also powerhouses but bigger).

DC team. Big Barda can hold off Hulk, (arguably team Marvel’s strongest member). Lobo should beat Ronan due to his superior durability. Fate can stomp Nova in all honesty. And Captain Atom beats Colossus due to having superior stats in everything except durability. Finally, everyone helps to put down Hulk.

DC Team ftw.

@theholyfish: This Colossus is Juggernaut. His durability advantage over Captain Atom is much greater than if he wasn't the Avatar of Cyttorak and he even has a huge superiority in strength. Captain Atom and Doctor Fate have the best offense but Nova is too fast, Ronan has a universal weapon and Immortal Hulk and Unstoppable Colossus are too strong for the Justice League's two most powerful members to stand a chance against them on their own. So this battle requires teamwork. Big Barda and Lobo are not lacking too much strength and durability against Immortal Hulk and Unstoppable Colossus while they're fast enough to keep up with Nova as soon as they engage him in hand to hand combat where Big Barda and Lobo are the most skilled and Captain Atom and Doctor Fate are outmatched by everyone else in this battle, but Ronan's universal weapon can take down any DC team member if Big Barda and Lobo do not prevent him from getting close to Captain Atom or Doctor Fate by prioritising him over all of his teammates, including Immortal Hulk and Unstoppable Colossus who are also able to easily kill Captain Atom and Doctor Fate but they can be outmaneuvered more easily. Nova can eventually defeat Captain Atom and Doctor Fate on his own because of his speed and his team will win if he manages to do so before Big Barda and Lobo defeat Ronan and either Immortal Hulk or Unstoppable Colossus.

Nice thread as always! very fair and good. DC Team Stomps!

Wtf is this? Barely can anyone here create a star.

Herald Level needs to be at least Planet Buster. Which I've never seen Immortal Hulk or Big Barda do.

@thehercules: Immortal Hulk’s only aim is to end the world which means he is nowhere near planet level.

Agreed!

Thing is Herald tier

@banecapital: Immortal Hulk is not nearly as powerful as World Breaker. Would say he is slightly below if not equal to WWH only. And Strange is actually WAY above WWH.

OT: Fate or Atom should beat the Marvel team.

Also, this Marvel team have no Herald tier and Lobo isn't Herald level, neither is Barda.

you do see dr fate right?

he carries dc team to a win

yea all of this is not happening

Dr Fate without his talismans has physicals and speed comparable to pre crisis superman and They increased significantly with doning the helm( he has been mentioned to travel at the speed of god hyperbole i know but you get the implication) he has been able to react to a bunch of extremely fast people ( superman, superboy, a mind controlled martian manhunter and superman etc ) so nova blitzing him is out of the question, it's simply not happening and let's for a second assume it does, Fate's Invulnerability tanks most of the team's attacks and especially the physical ones. Fate has taken way more than they can dish and the second this fight starts they get bfr'd to another dimension and die

i'd have hapilly attached scans to accompany the feats i just wrote but tbh some of these just feel like basic knowledge anyone who knows fate should have. Also what's to stop fate from consuming the nova's energy source because that is also arguable as fate is a high tier energy manipulator

Fate is beyond herald tier and should not be here... He solos

@destinyman75: @donotdenyyourfate: Doctor Fate is Kent V Nelson. New Earth version like Big Barda, Lobo and Captain Atom. He's not using his classic version since Immortal Hulk or Unstoppable Colossus did not exist in that era. But since the Unstoppable Colossus debuted after the launch of the New 52 continuity, I would be using New 52 versions of DC team if not for Colossus never being Juggernaut during the New 52 appearances of Doctor Fate who debuted a lot later than the other rebooted superheroes. And Immortal Hulk used to be the Devil Hulk and existed before the New 52. So do you think that Kent V Nelson is on a higher tier that this battle's other characters or is that true for Classic Fate only who could solostomp all eight characters at the same time?