@CitizenBane said:And what with Comic and mutants events? Age of X was great, the same with Thanos Imperative, both Anihilations or Realm and War of Kings.Agreed. Annihilation and Civil War were good, but that was years ago. Since then, DC has been consistently good.Last 5 events for both companies:
Marvel
Civil War
Secret Invasion
Dark Reign
Siege
Fear Itself
DC
Identity Crisis
Infinite Crisis
Sinestro Corps War
Final Crisis
Blackest Night
As far as recent events go, DC stomps. I'm still trying to get rid of the taste of Fear Itself. Marvel's only good events of late are the X-events, not including Schism.
DC vs Marvel
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@czarny_samael666: Read the whole thread again! I know 40 pages! But there were made special rules for the discussion...otherwise it will always be a stalemate ---> TOAA vs PresenceYou're joking that I will.
I don't see any specifications in OP.
TOAA and omnipotent being from DC cancel each other and it comes to next ones.
@JediXMan said:
@czarny_samael666: Didn't read Thanos Imperative. I didn't like Annihilation: Conquest or War of Kings. But Age of X, Messiah CompleX, and Second Coming were good.
X-comics are currently the best what Marvel has.
Uncanny X-Force, X-Factor, X-Men: Legacy, Gillen's UXM...
@CitizenBane said:
@czarny_samael666: If there was an actual battle between Lucifer and the PF, he'd win handily. He's survived creation-busting blasts, while the PF regularly jobs to natural phenomena.
You're talking about fractions of PF and its hosts. Each host can is limitted only by their imagination and own brain. Anyone can reach Jean's level (WPOTC), which means that each of them can be a Universal level threat and whole PF a multiversal buster. That is why it would win with LM.
@TheGoldenOne said:Then do it :P@JediXMan: You should read X-Factor.Everyone keeps telling me that.
@czarny_samael666: X-Force is excellent. I don't really like UXM. Legacy is good.Which was Your last issue of UXM? Becuase if it was Fraction one, I am not suprised.
Gillen stomps Fraction in everything. Just look on Journey Into Mystery and Mighty Thor. First one is really good, while second one is tottally horrible.
@CitizenBane said:I'm sorry, WHAT? Which of the last X-Events was good?Agreed. Annihilation and Civil War were good, but that was years ago. Since then, DC has been consistently good.Last 5 events for both companies:
Marvel
Civil War
Secret Invasion
Dark Reign
Siege
Fear Itself
DC
Identity Crisis
Infinite Crisis
Sinestro Corps War
Final Crisis
Blackest Night
As far as recent events go, DC stomps. I'm still trying to get rid of the taste of Fear Itself. Marvel's only good events of late are the X-events, not including Schism.
As far as the thread
- Marvel but DC got it close
- DC in a Curbstomp.
- DC.
@JediXMan said:Second Coming, Age of Axe, Messiah Complex and I would count Messiah War too. Besides, Utopia (Osborn Avengers vs. Cyke's mutants on Utopia).@CitizenBane said:I'm sorry, WHAT? Which of the last X-Events was good?Agreed. Annihilation and Civil War were good, but that was years ago. Since then, DC has been consistently good.Last 5 events for both companies:
Marvel
Civil War
Secret Invasion
Dark Reign
Siege
Fear Itself
DC
Identity Crisis
Infinite Crisis
Sinestro Corps War
Final Crisis
Blackest Night
As far as recent events go, DC stomps. I'm still trying to get rid of the taste of Fear Itself. Marvel's only good events of late are the X-events, not including Schism.
As far as the thread
- Marvel but DC got it close
- DC in a Curbstomp.
- DC.
Besides, about 3:
Marvel easily.
TOAA, HotU, Nemesis, LT, MJJ-616, whole Phoenix Force, Multi-Abstracts, Chaos King, Chaos War Hercules, Sise-Neg, The Hunger, Insane Genis-Vell, The Vishanti, Slorioth, Nebulos, MJJ-238, The Fury etc.
@ReVamp said:AoX was good, but I wouldn't count it as an event, so much as a crossover. Second Coming was horrible. Messiah War is debatable, I'll give you that, but I didn't like it. Only one I can think of in recent history is Messiah Complex, and that was kind of long ago.I'm sorry, WHAT? Which of the last X-Events was good?Second Coming, Age of Axe, Messiah Complex and I would count Messiah War too. Besides, Utopia (Osborn Avengers vs. Cyke's mutants on Utopia). Besides, about 3: Marvel easily. TOAA, HotU, Nemesis, LT, MJJ-616, whole Phoenix Force, Multi-Abstracts, Chaos King, Chaos War Hercules, Sise-Neg, The Hunger, Insane Genis-Vell, The Vishanti, Slorioth, Nebulos, MJJ-238, The Fury etc.
As far as the thread
- Marvel but DC got it close
- DC in a Curbstomp.
- DC.
@JediXMan said:I think it was.... I don't remember the number or arc name. It was the whole arc with the mutant flu or something like that. When that was over, I was like "I'm done. I can't stand anymore BS."@czarny_samael666: X-Force is excellent. I don't really like UXM. Legacy is good.Which was Your last issue of UXM? Becuase if it was Fraction one, I am not suprised. Gillen stomps Fraction in everything. Just look on Journey Into Mystery and Mighty Thor. First one is really good, while second one is tottally horrible.
@ReVamp said:
@JediXMan said:@CitizenBane said:I'm sorry, WHAT? Which of the last X-Events was good?Agreed. Annihilation and Civil War were good, but that was years ago. Since then, DC has been consistently good.Last 5 events for both companies:
Marvel
Civil War
Secret Invasion
Dark Reign
Siege
Fear Itself
DC
Identity Crisis
Infinite Crisis
Sinestro Corps War
Final Crisis
Blackest Night
As far as recent events go, DC stomps. I'm still trying to get rid of the taste of Fear Itself. Marvel's only good events of late are the X-events, not including Schism.
As far as the thread
- Marvel but DC got it close
- DC in a Curbstomp.
- DC.
I liked Age of X, Messiah CompleX, Messiah War, and Second Coming (DON'T KILL ME! I admit, some of it was fanboyism. I really, really like Bastion and seeing him was just awesome)
@czarny_samael666 said:
Second Coming, Age of Axe, Messiah Complex and I would count Messiah War too. Besides, Utopia (Osborn Avengers vs. Cyke's mutants on Utopia). Besides, about 3: Marvel easily. TOAA, HotU, Nemesis, LT, MJJ-616, whole Phoenix Force, Multi-Abstracts, Chaos King, Chaos War Hercules, Sise-Neg, The Hunger, Insane Genis-Vell, The Vishanti, Slorioth, Nebulos, MJJ-238, The Fury etc.I didn't like Utopia, in all honesty. I like the concept, just not that arc.
Schism just pisses me off.
@czarny_samael666 said:Liking AoX, Messiah CompleX is ok. Liking War is acceptable. Liking second coming is just... no.@JediXMan said:I think it was.... I don't remember the number or arc name. It was the whole arc with the mutant flu or something like that. When that was over, I was like "I'm done. I can't stand anymore BS."@czarny_samael666: X-Force is excellent. I don't really like UXM. Legacy is good.Which was Your last issue of UXM? Becuase if it was Fraction one, I am not suprised. Gillen stomps Fraction in everything. Just look on Journey Into Mystery and Mighty Thor. First one is really good, while second one is tottally horrible.
@ReVamp said:@JediXMan said:@CitizenBane said:I'm sorry, WHAT? Which of the last X-Events was good?Agreed. Annihilation and Civil War were good, but that was years ago. Since then, DC has been consistently good.Last 5 events for both companies:
Marvel
Civil War
Secret Invasion
Dark Reign
Siege
Fear Itself
DC
Identity Crisis
Infinite Crisis
Sinestro Corps War
Final Crisis
Blackest Night
As far as recent events go, DC stomps. I'm still trying to get rid of the taste of Fear Itself. Marvel's only good events of late are the X-events, not including Schism.
As far as the thread
- Marvel but DC got it close
- DC in a Curbstomp.
- DC.
I liked Age of X, Messiah CompleX, Messiah War, and Second Coming (DON'T KILL ME! I admit, some of it was fanboyism. I really, really like Bastion and seeing him was just awesome)
@czarny_samael666 said:O_O@ReVamp said:AoX was good, but I wouldn't count it as an event, so much as a crossover. Second Coming was horrible. Messiah War is debatable, I'll give you that, but I didn't like it. Only one I can think of in recent history is Messiah Complex, and that was kind of long ago.I'm sorry, WHAT? Which of the last X-Events was good?Second Coming, Age of Axe, Messiah Complex and I would count Messiah War too. Besides, Utopia (Osborn Avengers vs. Cyke's mutants on Utopia). Besides, about 3: Marvel easily. TOAA, HotU, Nemesis, LT, MJJ-616, whole Phoenix Force, Multi-Abstracts, Chaos King, Chaos War Hercules, Sise-Neg, The Hunger, Insane Genis-Vell, The Vishanti, Slorioth, Nebulos, MJJ-238, The Fury etc.
As far as the thread
- Marvel but DC got it close
- DC in a Curbstomp.
- DC.
@JediXMan said:
@czarny_samael666 said:@JediXMan said:I think it was.... I don't remember the number or arc name. It was the whole arc with the mutant flu or something like that. When that was over, I was like "I'm done. I can't stand anymore BS."@czarny_samael666: X-Force is excellent. I don't really like UXM. Legacy is good.Which was Your last issue of UXM? Becuase if it was Fraction one, I am not suprised. Gillen stomps Fraction in everything. Just look on Journey Into Mystery and Mighty Thor. First one is really good, while second one is tottally horrible.
@czarny_samael666 said:Second Coming, Age of Axe, Messiah Complex and I would count Messiah War too. Besides, Utopia (Osborn Avengers vs. Cyke's mutants on Utopia). Besides, about 3: Marvel easily. TOAA, HotU, Nemesis, LT, MJJ-616, whole Phoenix Force, Multi-Abstracts, Chaos King, Chaos War Hercules, Sise-Neg, The Hunger, Insane Genis-Vell, The Vishanti, Slorioth, Nebulos, MJJ-238, The Fury etc.I didn't like Utopia, in all honesty. I like the concept, just not that arc. Schism just pisses me off.
1.It was last Fraction story. ;) Fight with Kuurth was great IMO.
2.In Utopia I liked Cyke's leadership and using mutants as they could be use in some strategic games :D It was even greater against Juggy. These all combinations adn plans... "Oh, so plan number XXX succeded? I knew that one of them have to work" - is what Cyke probably thought at the end ;)
1.It was last Fraction story. ;) Fight with Kuurth was great IMO.2.In Utopia I liked Cyke's leadership and using mutants as they could be use in some strategic games :D It was even greater against Juggy. These all combinations adn plans... "Oh, so plan number XXX succeded? I knew that one of them have to work" - is what Cyke probably thought at the end ;)I might look at it, then.
You have to understand that I was actually months behind. So I kinda just picked certain issues to buy, since it would be too hard (and expensive) to get every backissue. So I saw it as a fresh start, just getting back issues for certain comics (X-Force and X-Men: Legacy being good examples). I dropped everything else. I decided it was a good time to get rid of comics I didn't enjoy anymore. I couldn't read Fear Itself; it just hurt too much. I actually enjoyed Flashpoint - although the tie-ins were better than the main series. World of Flashpoint and Knight of Vengeance were rather good.
This is what my current pull list looks like for Marvel:
X-Men Legacy
Uncanny X-Force
Generation Hope (sue me. I like it)
X-23
New Mutants was on there, but I stopped reading because I ceased to care about anyone other than X-Man. I feel like I'm forgetting something...
@ReVamp said:Fully agree.@JediXMan said:Because he was crap. Bastion was the good part of SC. He was good.@ReVamp: Bastion.Venom fans didn't like Spider-Man 3. Ha.
Even concept of Cable's death was acceptable. Another plus is X-Men reaction for X-Force existing and how X-23 was killing them in front of Nightcrawler. The same with Wolvie's actions. Mostly, what happened in Fraction's comics was crap, but what happened in X-Force was great. Legacy was also good as always.
Man, I wish there were more DC fanboys in here. The board's kinda dead, AIM/Facebook chat is dead, and this is the worst Halloween ever.
I saw SC as the climax, because I always viewed Messiah CompleX, Messiah War, and Second Coming as just one big event. As someone who also followed Cable and X-Force from beginning to end, it made Cable's death and Hope's reaction all the more tragic.
SC wasn't great. But I hardly think it was terrible. It could have been a lot worse; yeah, I'm looking at you Fear Itself....
@czarny_samael666 said:1.Again - Fraction. What was made by him in FI was bu##**it, but UXM,Youth in Revolt (a specially Thor Girl's end), JIM, Ghost Rider and Thunderbolts were good.1.It was last Fraction story. ;) Fight with Kuurth was great IMO.2.In Utopia I liked Cyke's leadership and using mutants as they could be use in some strategic games :D It was even greater against Juggy. These all combinations adn plans... "Oh, so plan number XXX succeded? I knew that one of them have to work" - is what Cyke probably thought at the end ;)I might look at it, then. You have to understand that I was actually months behind. So I kinda just picked certain issues to buy, since it would be too hard (and expensive) to get every backissue. So I saw it as a fresh start, just getting back issues for certain comics (X-Force and X-Men: Legacy being good examples). I dropped everything else. I decided it was a good time to get rid of comics I didn't enjoy anymore. I couldn't read Fear Itself; it just hurt too much. I actually enjoyed Flashpoint - although the tie-ins were better than the main series. World of Flashpoint and Knight of Vengeance were rather good. This is what my current pull list looks like for Marvel: X-Men Legacy Uncanny X-Force Generation Hope (sue me. I like it) X-23 New Mutants was on there, but I stopped reading because I ceased to care about anyone other than X-Man. I feel like I'm forgetting something...
I don't have anything against G. Hope, it show us different way of controlling mutants. Xavier nor even Cyke would ever do what Hope is doing).
2.I started to read NM, thanks to X-Man ;)
I forgot that it is popular in USA and that it is today.Man, I wish there were more DC fanboys in here. The board's kinda dead, AIM/Facebook chat is dead, and this is the worst Halloween ever.
@JediXMan said:
@czarny_samael666: I saw SC as the climax, because I always viewed Messiah CompleX, Messiah War, and Second Coming as just one big event. As someone who also followed Cable and X-Force from beginning to end, it made Cable's death and Hope's reaction all the more tragic. SC wasn't great. But I hardly think it was terrible. It could have been a lot worse; yeah, I'm looking at you Fear Itself....
X-Force was great - Fraction was... You know ;)
Fear Itself was terrible, but what is an effect of Schism is even worse. FI mini was simply boring. I didn't even care for Thor's death. We already knew everything before last number was published. Everything O_O
Generation Hope is my "relaxing" comic. Most of my collection is made up of dark and serious. Hope is typically calm, but with an edge of darkness (usually provided by Kenji). It's also why I might read Avengers Academy again.
I stopped reading New Mutants around #26 or 27. Is X-Man a regular of NM? If so I'll keep it up.
@czarny_samael666: Yeah, I know Marvel's more popular by far and sold better than DC before the whole reboot stunt/gimmick but I'm fraggin' bored out of my skull here.
I acctualy was thinking about Halloween... When I was a kid it was just a funny news in TV, nothing more. But I've heard that it is starting to be popular in schools.@czarny_samael666: Yeah, I know Marvel's more popular by far and sold better than DC before the whole reboot stunt/gimmick but I'm fraggin' bored out of my skull here.
Besides, it can suprise You, but Marvel heroes were known in Poland even before movies. Most kids knew who is Spider-Man, Hulk, FF, Cap and a specially X-Men (almost no one know who Avengers are). Yeah, X-Men were always on the top. But about DC people only recognized Superman and Batman, some of us who were reading X-Men also have heard about Hal Jordan. But Flash? Or Wonder Woman? Even today people who aren't typical comic-fans barely knows them.
@JediXMan said:
@czarny_samael666: Generation Hope is my "relaxing" comic. Most of my collection is made up of dark and serious. Hope is typically calm, but with an edge of darkness (usually provided by Kenji). It's also why I might read Avengers Academy again. I stopped reading New Mutants around #26 or 27. Is X-Man a regular of NM? If so I'll keep it up.
He is. Depowered, but there are rumors that his power will grow fast.
@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:If I may ask: where do you live?I forgot that it is popular in USA and that it is today.Man, I wish there were more DC fanboys in here. The board's kinda dead, AIM/Facebook chat is dead, and this is the worst Halloween ever.
@czarny_samael666 said:Poland.@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:If I may ask: where do you live?I forgot that it is popular in USA and that it is today.Man, I wish there were more DC fanboys in here. The board's kinda dead, AIM/Facebook chat is dead, and this is the worst Halloween ever.
1. DC
- Lol Marvel doesnt care about their comics anymore! Theyre too busy making movies! Just look at Fear Itself smh
2. Tie
- Marvel has a lot of good characters and so does DC
3. Obvious Tie/Marvel
- Its just TOAA vs Overmoniter/Presence. Anybody below their level is cannon fodder. But if you remove the "Gods" then.....maybe Marvel.....>_>
Marvel doesn't need a crisis to sort out their their entire universe every few years while wiping away origins. Not saying Marvel isn't guilty of this but its on a smaller scale.
I like to say that DC has the more iconic characters but I think that's because they were able to reach a bigger audience through TV & movies in the past. Right now Marvel is kicking their ass in the movie department and kids will be growing up with marvel in their minds with the Avengers, Cap, Iron Man, Thor etc. Sure they will think Batman is cool but Green lantern was a dud, Superman was pretty boring (for now) and what's the JLA? Regardless of how well the new 52 does, majority of the people will remember the characters through other forms of media than comics.
And can't Scarlet Witch say "No more DC" and be done with it?
Edit: It was only Marvel Universe 616 vs current DC Universe (not up-to-date due to the point this thread is four years old)! :)
@czarny_samael666: On the level of the Sentinels, Gods and Cosmic Entities it will be a stalemate! So it was decided to keep the battle on earthbased/planetbased characters! You can name such beeings, but comparable beeings can be named for DC, so it's senseless...I asure you, read the thread! It's interesting! You're arguments have already been used...By the way you are forgetting the powerhouses of DC...You're totally underestimating them! Edit: It was only Marvel Universe 616 vs current DC Universe (not up-to-date due to the point this thread is four years old)! :)No, DC doesn't have answers for them. DC doesn't have comparble beings to them.
DC doesn't have an answer for many of them, for example for HotU. And LT or Nemesis.
@JediXMan said:Interesting. Never knew that.@czarny_samael666 said:Poland.@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:If I may ask: where do you live?I forgot that it is popular in USA and that it is today.Man, I wish there were more DC fanboys in here. The board's kinda dead, AIM/Facebook chat is dead, and this is the worst Halloween ever.
I think both dc and marvel are awesome they are both my favourite comic companies but ive got to say Round 1 dc Round 2 dc Round 3 dc
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