DBS: Granolah Vs Jiren

Best Quote:

"Blue Hair? i couldn't care less what its called just fight me already"

Vs

Best Quote:

"It matters not how many weakling band together, you are nothing before my Absolute Strength"

Rules:

• ToP Arena No rules.
• Morals ON.
• Start in Suppressed power for both.
• Win By all means.

Granolah Feats:

• one Shot Base UI Goku via ki Blast to a vital point in an open air place, Goku needed a Senzu Bean to stand up.

• Blitz so fast he was remark to Wild speed greater than instant Teleportation by Goku and Vegeta.

• Wild a Technique that mimic the Hakai of the GoDs confirmed by the Hakai user Vegeta himself.

• Has no opening to his attacks(similar to UI) as Goku fail to tag him even once(pre going MUI) in their fight .

• one Shot SSj God Goku while using UI with another pressure point attack by a blunt force this time, tho Goku revert back to base after the attack he was able to get up without a Senzu Bean.

• Wild the Sharpest eye in the Universe capable of seeing one vital points and true power level.

• Match SSJ Blue Goku power and speed as the chapter ended.

• Beat SSJ Blue Goku while using UI With a clone of his(simller to Tien split move) much weaker than the original.

• Beat SSJBE Vegeta without too much problems in his true Power and made him go GoD mode.

• Tagged and KO MUI Goku as the Form accuracy was dropping over Time(Granolah couldn't find any opening in MUI when Goku was at its pick but the form does have a short time limit).

Jiren Feats:

• Reacted to Goku's instant transmission without breaking a sweet proving he wilds speed greater than instant as well.

• Broke Hit time cage barrier with a power that transcend time itself.

• Said to Rival The GoDs in Power and may Surpassed them.

• Easily Stomped Blue KKx20 Goku from ToP.

• Easily glared away the Spirit Bomb.

• Overpowered Blue KK goku and SSBE Vegeta at the same time without going all out.

• Shook an infinite realm of Void.

• Tanked ToP MUI best shots include a full power kamehameha.

• Intercept MUI Goku kick and throw him away.

• Overpowerd MUI full power blast.

• Match MUI Speed by Beerus statement.

• Outlast and Technically won the fight against MUI.

Goku power ups from ToP to current.

• Minor training with vegeta pre Broly fight.

• Broly Fight Power Bost, considering saiyans supposed to get stronger after each fight.

• 3 month training with Angel Merus.

• Moro Fight Power Bost.

• UI training in base form and MUI form with Whis for a relatively short but productive time.

Jiren gets stomped

Granola made his wish to be the strongest after the Moro arc. Meaning Granola at the very LEAST is stronger than planet Moro and Moro arc MUI goku. Who both should be able to fold and even one shot jiren.

Granola being stronger than them means he probably neg difs jiren. Jiren and Broly at least the versions we’ve seen of them at this point should honestly be fodder to the top tiers of this arc like granola, goku and possibly even vegeta now.

Granola by hype alone should stomp. Pretty sure he's still holding back against Goku.

Granola kinda one shots

Granola by hype

Jiren by feats

Granola stomps

Granola stomps, but I wonder how many Granola fans were Jiren fans who also were Broly haters

Jiren loses sadly

Granolah wrecks

Broly comes in and destroys both of them.

Jiren stomps he was compared to the GoDs and may be above them while the other guy clearly is below the GoDs by the Dragon own word.

Granola = current MSSB Goku > Jiren

It's kind of tradition at this point that new arc villains stomp the old ones

Granolah is a worse version of GT Baby. Jiren baby shakes until we see MUI get involved

been tradition from the start of the series

Jiren is a way worse and bland character than Granolah

Granolah spanks Jiren hard. Just look at the new scaling from after the ToP. Jiren stands no chance.

Granola stomps the fodder Yiren

Granola solos his universe.

Bingo.

This how the fight look

Remember that weird pressure point thing Granolah did to Goku? Yeah that's how this goes down.

@daddyprometheus said:

@maalik said:

@greysentinel365 said:

It's kind of tradition at this point that new arc villains stomp the old ones

been tradition from the start of the series

This how the fight look

This is basically DB's first "let's show how strong this new villain is by letting him crush the old one".

@takenstew22 said:

@daddyprometheus said:

@maalik said:

@greysentinel365 said:

It's kind of tradition at this point that new arc villains stomp the old ones

been tradition from the start of the series

This how the fight look

This is basically DB's first "let's show how strong this new villain is by letting him crush the old one".

Yep, and it was probably the coolest one, Tao Pai Pai was a total badass.

Granolah one-shots

@daddyprometheus: Indeed. Was also technically the first true obstacle Goku had and needed a boost to beat.

@daddyprometheus said:

@takenstew22 said:

@daddyprometheus said:

@maalik said:

@greysentinel365 said:

It's kind of tradition at this point that new arc villains stomp the old ones

been tradition from the start of the series

This how the fight look

This is basically DB's first "let's show how strong this new villain is by letting him crush the old one".

Yep, and it was probably the coolest one, Tao Pai Pai was a total badass.

He had one of the coolest ways to get around too. Surfing a motherfuckin tree.

I wouldn't call it the first true "obstacle", given General Blue was also formidable, and there was other obstacles that didin't depend on power, but it was the moment the series became more serious for sure, and with more intimidating antagonists.

Goku's power up there also gives a very good message, contrary to many of the more modern meaningless power ups lol.

LMAO facts, and what makes it funnier is that since he was the brother of the Crane master, he knew how to fly, he just chose not to.

Blue's only real threat was his TK tbh. Goku beat him pretty handily without it.

Lol, he just wanted to flex.

Granolah stomps and perhaps speed blitzes

Jiren stomps with current feats

I'm telling y'all Jiren has been training hard since the ToP. He will come back and be just as strong as ever. "Son Goku, did you really think I was going to stand idly by while you kept increasing your power?!"

Granolah's wish to be the strongest only included the characters in his universe.

Granolah for now, while it is true that he is the strongest in HIS universe, he seems to really give post training Goku/Vegeta a run for their money. I also don't recall Jiren beating Goku in one strike.

Terrible incorrect.

He made his wish to be the strongest in the universe. Moro is dead, he is not in the universe anymore so any comparison to Moro and Granola is a moot point, as well as any scaling from that point on as well.

Granolah one taps

Didn't the dragon say it couldn't grant Granola's wish, and rather multiplied his latent abilities?

The Dragon said it's possible to make him the strongest if he took the risk of having his life-span decreased to 3 years.

It is too early to give a definitive answer to who wins between these two. Granolah did wish to become the most powerful being in Universe 7 (excluding Gods and Angels) so he should be above Kakarot and Prince Vegeta...but Jiren is not from Universe 7 and he would have done training after the TOP to increase his power level so we don't know what power level Jiren is at the moment and I doubt Toriyama will be bringing Jiren back any time soon. Also, we don't know how the fight of Granolah vs Kakarot and Prince Vegeta will pan out because the manga chapter hasn't been released yet. I'm not sure Kakarot mastered Ultra Instinct when he was easily beating Jiren during the end of the TOP (and then he couldn't maintain his UI and then Belmod asked Jiren to eliminate him and Jiren was reluctant to because he knew he would be eliminating an out-of-form Kakarot). In the Moro Saga, it is said that Merus had better UI than Kakarot and Whis had better UI than Merus so if that's true then it is impossible that Kakarot had mastered UI in the TOP. I've forgotten that Kakarot did bring out the TOP UI when he fought against OG73i absorbed Lord Moro...I would assume that Granolah is above UI Kakarot in power level so it should be Granolah>UI Goku>Jiren>Prince Vegeta so yes maybe Granolah would beat Jiren in a fight but it is too early to say...not enough feats for Granolah.

Yes I know that Granolah has started fighting Kakarot and Prince Vegeta but neither Kakarot nor Prince Vegeta have gone all out yet

Well Granolah wished to be the strongest in universe 7. Has no bearing on guys like Jiren and Moro

It is sad to see people underrate Jiren

By the way, just to be clear, yes Granolah did become the strongest fighter in Universe 7 after the dragon granted him his wish

Lol at people saying Granolah one shots Jiren...no, not at all. Yes it is possible for Granolah to beat Jiren but it would take multiple shots and Jiren is training in the meantime so if he is shown again in DBS then he will be stronger than his TOP version. People seem to easily forget Jiren's feats in the TOP and yes they are impressive enough to withstand Granolah's attacks for at least some time...like I said, not enough Granolah feats.