DBS gods of destruction VS GoD level mortals

If we scale and make some assumptions, then the destroyers win easily, the assumptions being, that ultra instinct is a technique of the gods, so there must be some among the destroyers that have this. I will assume that those destroyers that were unimpressed when Goku first used UI, might have UI themselves or something. And even if only 2 or 3 of them UI, then the destroyers can easily win.

But if we go by actual feats that we have seen so far, then definitely the mortals win.

@doctordamn: Goku vs Beerus= 1 universe destruction, GoD Vs GoD= 2 Universe Destruction that’s a big difference don’t you think?? Dyspo was blitzing everyone left and right and Zeno couldn’t keep up with Both the GoDs And Him mening The GoDs will most defiantly blitz almost everyone here thenks for improving my point, Only baby GoD Toppo shows Hakai Hax And it was unbelievably powerful exactly!!!! Now imagine a 200 million years GoD using his Hakai Hax after a direct quote saying Toppo was a noob with his Hakai power, Again thenks for proving my point.

@mega6382: why would you assume that GoDs have the UI? Beerus is the strongest god of destruction in the series by far. During the GoD battle royal in the manga Beerus was able to challenge several GoD's at once and was the last man standing, confirming this. And he doesnt have a Mastered UI by far. Whis himself stated Beerus is far from perfect in it. Beerus also almost crapped himself when Goku entered his MUI state. Not even Whis seems to have the Perfect MUI considering how both Goku and Vegeta were able to tag him during their training. The fact that its called a technique of the gods doesnt mean any of the gods of destruction in particular actually mastered it. Maybe it just means they are training in it, aiming to obtain it.

Champa is much weaker than beerus.

No they arent, frieza can overpower a hakai from one, and he's fodder to beerus, and if they were then beerus is fodder to LB jiren and MUI aswell.

None of them have it, only beerus in the manga.

Vegeta has an angel as a teacher and he's fodder.

You just listed who vegeta is fodder to...

Sure, you could very well be correct. My assumption was simply based on the destroyers of the 4 universes that weren't part of the tournament. Three of them fought before the tournament began, and kind of obliterated the area of the stage where they were fighting. Also, the colors of their hakai(assuming it was hakai) were different than the usual purple. Also, the one destroyer that sat out of this fight gave an impression that he might be stronger than the others, which made me assume that he and also some from the other three(or all of them) might have MUI.

@mattyboi: Frieza blocked a portion of a gods destruction energy which isnt even hakai.

Hakai is what beerus did to the ghost.

And champa isnt weaker than beerus just has less stamina.

Gods ain't up against Angel's to get one shotted. They would eventually wear out jiren and goku

It was hakai energy.

Hakai energy is the same thing as a hakai, just that its focused on one thing while its turned into energy

Yes he is.

How? Suppressed jiren is above the second strongest god(maybe even strongest), MUI or jiren solo.

@mattyboi: How do they solo? Jiren was struggling to take out universe 7 team members (goku is acceptable obviously) but the others gave him a tough time despite being much weaker.

Gods are strong and will outnumber. And that hakai energy was only a portion given to a grunt.

Much different to when a god would be doing it and use as much as they want.

He was suppressed at the time.

Cool, numbers wont do much when they're getting stomped and one shotted.

Cool, still getting blitzed and one shotted tho.

Gods of destruction.

Jiren and Goku would surely take a lot of them, but they can't carry their team for long.

Hakaishin's stomps hard. 4 hakaishin are enough.

There is only Broly, Goku UI & Jiren who are on hakaishin level.

@mattyboi: Wouldnt say jiren and goku are gonna get blitzed or one shotted like you are mentioning but they will lose

I said jiren and goku are gonna blitz and one shot.

@doctordamn: Assuming a destruction God can use his destruction powers is a good assumption even if he didn’t showed it.

@thoromdil: Sidra only shared a bit of his hakai energy, enough to let the space dog to carry it with him. This is why Frieza survived to his hakai.

DBS director said that "Goku is now pretty close to the level of gods and Vegeta is catching up to Goku." Both are stronger than Frieza and no one of them are on hakaishin's level.

Champa saying he couldn't see what was happening during Dyspo & Hit fight doesn't mean Dyspo can damage Champa.

Anilaza had difficult to push back 5 SSJB tier attack, he's at best SSJB x10 level.

Android 17 is a good fighter but there is nothing he can do against a hakaishin tier even his strongest attack did nothing against Jiren.

Goku Black in his prime was able to stalemate Goku and Vegeta from the Future Trunks saga and was loosing against Vegeta Blue in the end of Saga. Current Goku Blue & Vegeta are way stronger than Black but still weaker than hakaishin's.

Hit get destroyed by a heavily suppressed Jiren. There is a reason why Hit is afraid of Champa.

@doctordamn: Vine rules not mine but if it’s strictly feats GoDs have speed enough to blitz most here, Belmod can trap them in his card cage, the elephant guy can scream strong enough to damage some of the GoDs, Beerus can handle 11 GoDs at the same time using UI, the Woman GoD has a spear of some kind , quitela match Beerus in 1 on 1 and beat him in Arm wrestling, the robot Guy is strong enough to restrain Beerus for a while and the Fox GoD has 9 tails each capable shoting ki blasts.

Broly solos he way to dangerous.

@etherious: only Goku Jiren and Broly are ON hakaishin level?

How is Broly ON hakaishin level when Goku said he is ABOVE Beerus, who is the strongest hakaishin?

And how is LB Jiren ON hakaishin level when he was stated to be above Belmod, a high tier hakaishin before he went full power, let alone LB?

And how are there only these 3 hakaishin levels, when they literally have a hakaishin Toppo, and the likes of Vegeta who rival him?

Arguments for the team 2 make no sens.

Team 1 stomps. Goku and Jiren are on a whole other level. They carry their team, and with a backup of handful of GoD+ tiers like Broly, Vegeta and Toppo, its a stomp.

everyone besides Goku, Broly, and Jiren gets hakai'd, but then the 12 gods gang up on the last 3.

Probably Gods. Only way I see team mortals winning is if Goku and Jiren are both at least 5x stronger than a God of destruction (which is possible). Otherwise a couple of the weaker GoDs eliminate the weaker bunch while the stronger ones try to hold out against Goku and Jiren, and after the rest are eliminated they join in to either overpower the duo or outlast them and then finish them off after their power burns them out.

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If the team holds off long enough for Goku and Vegeta to fuse then I can see team mortals taking the win. If black uses his scythe clones along with Hits time cage, Anilazas sending portal hax, while the others fight, they might be able to hold off the Gods long enough for either MUI Goku, LB Jiren, or Gogeta to finish off the gods.

Mortals stomps

Goku = Jiren = Broly > Beerus and Champa > Everyone else on their team > The featless gods

Based on feats from the manga belmod is nothing special as GoD and beerus is in the upper echelon of those in the fight of all the gods and was the most impressive imo as he was being targeted as an individual. LB jiren would edge out beerus in a high diff fight imo. But beerus absolutely destroyed a mssjb with one attack and I don't see why he couldn't do that to most of this team. However Goku and jiren starting in lb and mui is a problem as they are probably the two most powerful fighters in the entire battle. Mortals edge this one out because thru start in their most powerful forms

Edit: didn't notice broly at first glance mortals take this because most of the gods are unknowns at this point and likely to be weaker than beerus giving the mortals the edge

Are the people that are saying Jiren and MUI goku can solo forgetting that BEERUS IS ON THE GOD TEAM. Open your eyes and read people. Beerus is a god you know. We’ve known this since battle of gods.

@thoromdil it’s funny how someone could put so much time into a post just to be so very wrong. Anyway on topic the gods stomp by FACT.

Some of the GOD's don't really have any feats, but if they spam their hakai's they can probably win unless Goku and Vegeta fuse.

The statements about their actual power in comparison to the GoDs are very vague...

The God of destructions are not all equally strong but should be comparable to each other. They are in a similar leauge.

To the mortals: Only Jiren, MUI Goku and Broly are as strong as the GoDs, potentially a bit stronger but not enough to take on more than one GoD at once. The rest of the team will go down quite fast.

Make it a 3 vs 3 between the strongest Mortals and the strongest GoDs and I place my bets on the mortals in a tough fight but as the match is right now, I'll have to go with GoDs

My heart say gods, but my head says mortals.

Even Kefla or Vegeta beyond Blue should be enough to at least take lower gods, and from what they said are at least Goku MUI and Jiren above even the highest gods, but maybe they downplayed the gods a lot i don't know.

@thegodmadara: although that was the byproduct of killing kaioshins.😂😂😂

@lilgodperv: True LOLOLOLO but he still killed then

The only mortals that stand a chance are MUI Goku, LSSJ Broly, LB Jiren,

I'm taking the G.O.D

Most of the GODs here are featless and shown to be below Beerus. Mortals win.

Mortals rek house. Too much versatility & omnidirectional attacks.