DB King Piccolo vs Madara vs Akainu vs Base Aizen

All-out battle

• No prior knowledge or prep time
• This is EMS Madara without Kyuubi
• To the death

Location: Capsule Corp

Scenario 2:

• 36 hours prep, basic knowledge and Madara can summon Kurama.
• Bloodlusted on, morals off

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R1) Madara wins easily.

R2) Prep means that Aizen can use the Hogyoku to create things like arrancar? If so he has a chance, but should still get destroyed by Madara, like everyone else here.

@kamishini:

R1: didn't Piccolo is casual city/island buster at this point? And Without Kyuubi how is he going to dominate all 3?

And Akainu is not a factor?

R2: yes he can use hogyoku.

@werkudoro:

It was a city and e barely busted that, this level is fodder here, just look at Madara moving his sword. Aizen is barely above fodder thanks to versatility. Akainu is the only real enemy here, but genjutsu GG or Madara fodderize him with his susanoo.

R2) I don't remember how much time it takes him to create an arrancar, but even with a great number of them a moral off Madara is scary and have every advantage but number.

Kyoka Suigetsu GG

@valor_175: How is he spamming that when he has no kyubbi ?

On topic I'm inclined to say Akainu if he doesn't get genjustu'd right away

@valor_175:

I meant it like he isn't bound to his cooky personality and will kill everyone in the fastest way possible, like using genjutsu right away.

@catherinemc:

Kyoka will be useful only against piccolo, Akainu has Haki that gives him one more sense and Madara has better TP himself.

@valor_175: TBH I'm along the party that believes Edo Madara is >= EMS Edo Madara did have on top of EMS A rinnegan and Hashirama cells which both amped him a consedirable amount

@valor_175: @almighty:

I'm butting in lol.

I believe that Edo Madara had way more versatility and techniques to use, but stat wise is way inferior to alive Madara, like he actually showed.

@valor_175: Sor trthe wait. My opener should be done sometime today. it just took longer than I expected and I've been really busy.

On topic: Madara wins. Though I can see Akainu beating Aizen, so it's Madara vs Akainu

R1: Probably Madara but Aizen could win this. He has Kyoka Suigetsu after all

R2: Aizen wins according to plan

@thegamemastershaun:

R2) Spoiler alert, the plan didn't go too well in the story.

Kyoka is useless against Madara.

Madara wins

Madara both rounds.

@kamishini: How is it useless? doesn't KS affect anyone who looks at his sword?

@thegamemastershaun:

It's useless because:

1) It never worked on someone with TP resistance.

2) Madara has way better TP himself, so even if he is caught he can free with no problem.

@kamishini: I see.

People do realize he can summon Kurama in round 2, right?

Genjutsu GG

R1: Aizen wins via scaling. Else Madara.(i personally think Aizen wins)

R2: Madara with Kyuubi should win high-extreme diff.

@marc_55: so Kurama is a big factor to win in 2nd round? Piccolo can grown into a giant as well

Does he have to stay in base?

King Piccolo never showed that ability.

@werkudoro: @alextheboss:

If he can fuse with it this is a stalemate, immortal, or eventually, after some real time, his win.

@kamishini: Well scaling wise prime Aizen should be the strongest here. Adding in his immortality he should definitely win. But if he is restricted to base he loses.

@alextheboss:

Scaling from who? Because he has the better feats, unless you mean EOS Aizen, who would still be inferior.

Madara moving his words was a better feat than Ichigo vs Aizen, plus add his hax and I think he would destroy Aizen, but he can't kill him.

Base Aizen would be raped, for lack of better words.

Madara wins both rounds.

@kamishini:

Scaling from who?

Ulquiorra's attack

Yamammoto blocking a city plus attack with his body

And shikai Kenpahci destroying a city sized meteor

Because he has the better feats, unless you mean EOS Aizen, who would still be inferior.

Edo Madara admitted he could only use his meteor attack because he can regenerate from the after math, Kenpahci could swat meteors like that away casually while not even in bankai and Aizen is even stronger than Kenpachi's bankai.

Madara moving his words was a better feat than Ichigo vs Aizen,

what?

plus add his hax and I think he would destroy Aizen, but he can't kill him.

what hax are you talking about in particular?

Base Aizen would be raped, for lack of better words.

Not really. Going off of Ulquiorra's attack and Yammamoto surviving a city+++ attack, base Aizen is at least city level, plus his illusions would let him put up a fight against base Madara.

imo it would probably go like this

base Aizen<EMS Madara<chrysalis Aizen<Rennigan/EMS Madara<Butterfly Aizen<=>sage Madara<=Monster Aizen<prime Aizen<six paths Madara

Madara solos the verse with ease

@kamishini:

Aizen survive this only because of immortality.

Madara wouldn't be able to survive a hit like that either without immortality though.

Genjutsu. Aizen, like the rest of the verse has no TP resistance and Madara has a sharingan...

I feel like Aizen could counter it. Supposedly to break it all you need to do is disrupt your power flow.

I agree with everything but two things:

- Madara moving his sword is multi mountain in a weaoer form.

I didn't say it wasn't multi mountain level. Aizen should logically be able to casually multi mountain bust as well. Tbh this crator looks about as impressive and he did it casually.

-Kyoka is completely useless here.

Kyoka works on all 5 senses. Madara will only be able to see through sight illusions.

With feats and power scaling its more like this:

Base Aizen<chrysalis<butterfly<monster<<Edo<= prime aizen<Ems<<<rinnegan.

And I'm being generous, since we have to consider the speed difference.

Aizen's durability and physical strength is above any Madara before sage Madara. The only thing pre sage mode Madara might be above in is speed and power.

@alextheboss:

False, his susanoo even when EMS had multi mountain/island durability and that's him moving his sword.

Thats what's needed just to get past it, since Kurama and Madara aren't hurt.

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Aizen has no TP resistance and he won't magically learn Naruto's verse way to counter it, so no genjutsu GG.

That's no where near as impressive and you can't consider it as casual, since he did more than moving his sword.

False. Genjutsu effects all the 5 sense plus the brain.

And this are the completely fodder genjutsu, the sharingan one can completely control a person with bo problem.

Only if you don't consider his susanoo, that's here for a reason. You know with speed, power and hax I can't see him losing. Aizen can't defeat EMS Madara at his peak, leave alone at base and against Kurama too.

@kamishini:

False, his susanoo even when EMS had multi mountain/island durability and that's him moving his sword.

I'm talking about Madara's real body.

False. Genjutsu effects all the 5 sense plus the brain.

I know, but I was talking about how the sharingan can counter illusions. It can only counter visual ones though. So Madara can effect all 5 senses, but he can only see through sight illusions.

Only if you don't consider his susanoo, that's here for a reason. You know with speed, power and hax I can't see him losing. Aizen can't defeat EMS Madara at his peak, leave alone at base and against Kurama too.

Madara doesn't usually start in Susanoo though. Aizen would have the clear advantage before he takes out the perfect susanoo. Also considering Ichigo just got a small burn from blocking that attack that left a crater as wide as a mountain and so deep you can't see the bottom, prime Aizen could probably deal with the perfect Susanoo, at least to a certain extent. The most dangerous thing Madara has to Aizen is genjutsu and sealing techniques.

@alextheboss:

I agree then.

He can see trough illusion that are originated from sight and should be able to easily break free from the others.

KS is originated from eye contat so no real problem.

Sasuke was able to do this.

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So KS isn't a factor here, especially since it never worked against someone with TP resistance.

He won't but he has precog and speed, so he can easily evade and keep up at the start. He can also summon it almost instantaneously.

More or less agree with the rest, but Aizen wouldn't really be able to get through Madara susanoo.

@werkudoro: He's a not big factor, he solos them all. I'm not sure how growing big is supposed to help Piccolo, but okay.

@wegowayback: which verse? Bleach? how? this is just EMS Madara

I thought this was juubi Madara lol I was gonna say why is king piccolo here's then. N EMS Madara probably wins he's so versatile

@alextheboss: For the 2nd round no he doesn't have to.

what are you replying toe exactly?

@alextheboss:

Aizen, he doesn't have to stay in base for 2nd round

lol at madara being above Eos aizen

Eos aizen can create gravity that destroys on an atomic level so madara gets vaped and aizen has tanked it

@werkudoro: Ok, then I think Aizen probably wins if he is in his final form.