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#1 Edited by Necromancer76 (3769 posts) - - Show Bio

-Prime versions, equal ground, no prep or prior knowledge, perfect teamwork, standard gear (except no orbalisks for Bane), etc.

-Bonus Round: If Team 1 loses, Malak becomes amped by the Star Forge. If Team 2 loses, Bane gets his orbalisks.

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#3 Posted by Greysentinel365 (5979 posts) - - Show Bio

I think it's fair to say Wyyrlock carries Malak both rounds to victory

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#4 Posted by KillBilly (1763 posts) - - Show Bio

Malak solos.

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#5 Posted by nerdchore (8116 posts) - - Show Bio

No love for bane I see.

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#6 Posted by Drape (23 posts) - - Show Bio

Situation 1: Malak is the weak link, but I believe Wyyrlok could kill Bane quickly before Malak falls or afterwards. I believe Malgus would overwhelm him if he can close the distance or power through any illusions like Krayt did.

So I'll have to say Malgus is the survivor due to him being a pure tank. The only person with any notable teamwork capabilities is Malak and he can't really last long against anyone. Even though Bane is inexperienced, he can tank through the Force Stun.

In Situation 2: I'll say that Malak has the boost and is able to kill Bane. Then the same situation plays out where Malgus still kills one of them, probably Malak and Wyyrlok survives

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#7 Posted by SirFizzWhizz (37749 posts) - - Show Bio

Malak weak link. Team 2 wins just about every time with effort.

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#8 Posted by Grinningf0x (1465 posts) - - Show Bio

Team two with Malgus carrying False emperor Malgus is a BEAST

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#9 Posted by xolthol (930 posts) - - Show Bio

To my point:

-> If Malak vs Bane and Malgus vs Wyyrlok : Malak loose and Wyyrlok too but really hard. Team one loose.

-> If Malgus vs Malak and Bane vs Wyyrlok : Bane loose then Wyyrlok + Malak should defeat Malgus.

If SF amp Malak : he just carry all the fight. No way loosing

If Orbalisk bane : same as if no orbalisk : Bane vs Malak is a win and Wyyrlok is far more a sorcerer than a warrior so the orbalisk didn't have so great impact

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#10 Posted by Erkan12 (8319 posts) - - Show Bio

Wyyrlok III and Malak.

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#12 Posted by Guru_Crack (11568 posts) - - Show Bio

Honestly know little of Malak's power but since everyone is saying he is the weak link then i give it to Bane & Malgus as Wyyyrlok can't do everything on his own. him Vs Malgus would be pretty close in his favour imo.

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#13 Posted by Richard96 (5631 posts) - - Show Bio

Wyrlokk solos. The guy contended with prime Krayt, a yoda/ROTS sidious level guy.

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#14 Posted by Dawn_of_Ages (2376 posts) - - Show Bio

How do people reckon Malak solos?

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#15 Posted by Necromancer76 (3769 posts) - - Show Bio

How do people reckon Malak solos?

Probably his new Exar Kun scaling.

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#17 Posted by Necromancer76 (3769 posts) - - Show Bio
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#18 Posted by dark-sith123 (4870 posts) - - Show Bio

The Malak scaling only applies to SF Malak, it seems.

Team 1 still gets this.

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#19 Posted by KillBilly (1763 posts) - - Show Bio

@necromancer76:Still not seeing how that means he can solo, tbh.

I suppose you believe Wyyrlok actually contended with Krayt?

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#20 Posted by Necromancer76 (3769 posts) - - Show Bio

@dark-sith123: Not entirely true. If SF Malak is indeed greater than Kun, then standard Malak can’t be that far off. Unless the SF is in fact an enormous buff. Which would make KOTOR Revan’s feat more impressive.

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#21 Posted by bigsambino87 (1754 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm going with the Tank's on this one.

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#22 Posted by dark-sith123 (4870 posts) - - Show Bio

@necromancer76:

The quote says that Malak's power far outstripped Kun's own- then it asked "was cybernetic enhancement too simple an explanation", implying something else was behind it. The Star Forge. Malak being far more powerful than Kun only applies to the Star Forge. I'm not sure if Malak is more powerful than Exar without Star Forge. I don't think he is tbh.

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#23 Posted by Necromancer76 (3769 posts) - - Show Bio

@dark-sith123: And I agree, I don’t think standard Malak is above Kun either. I’m just saying that it seems unlikely that he’s really far away from Kun without the SF amp, based on the fact that he IS more powerful with the amp.

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#24 Posted by RedHeathen (2217 posts) - - Show Bio

BANE AND MALGUS!!! I LOVE THIS MATCH UP!

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#25 Posted by Drape (23 posts) - - Show Bio

@necromancer76: Malak isn't more powerful than Kun with the amp tho.

Kun had that special gauntlet that Malak wouldn't have an answer to and Malak probably couldn't adapt to Kun's unorthodox applications

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#26 Posted by i_like_swords (26191 posts) - - Show Bio

Wyyrlok and Malak seem like the clear winners here.

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#27 Posted by Necromancer76 (3769 posts) - - Show Bio

@drape: That’s what I thought before, but there’s no denying the quote that says Malak, with the Star Forge amp, is more powerful than Exar Kun.

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#29 Posted by Necromancer76 (3769 posts) - - Show Bio

@drape: https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/star-wars-universe-1943200/true-extend-of-power-of-star-forge-malak-1934439/?page=1

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#30 Posted by Drape (23 posts) - - Show Bio

@necromancer76: That post isn't really viable. It asks if he did and only suggests he may have surpassed them. Also, Exar Kun has shown far greater destructive capabilities than Kun.

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#31 Posted by Necromancer76 (3769 posts) - - Show Bio

@drape: Ummmm...no. Read it again. It questions whether his cybernetic enhancements were the reason for him being better than Kun. Both options hold Malak above Kun.

And that doesn’t really matter, Darth Nihilus has shown far greater destructive capabilities than Sarasu Taalon. Is he better than Sarasu Taalon? Absolutely not.

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#32 Posted by Drape (23 posts) - - Show Bio

@necromancer76: That's only bc Nihulus is a one trick pony that relied on one technique and had tons of preparation.

While Kun has shown to be able to do so with no prep.

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#33 Edited by Necromancer76 (3769 posts) - - Show Bio

@drape: What exactly are you referring to that he did? The fact that he couldn’t defeat his master in a duel without using a new weapon or needed an amulet to perform his most powerful combat ability?

I’m not saying he’s weak, but I think he’s a bit exaggerated.

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#34 Posted by Lord_Tenebrous (1626 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2 wins the first round very very narrowly.

Team 1 wins the second a little less closely.

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#35 Posted by Greysentinel365 (5979 posts) - - Show Bio

Wyyrlok solos.

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