Darth Wyyrlok III and Darth Malak vs Darth Bane and Darth Malgus

-Prime versions, equal ground, no prep or prior knowledge, perfect teamwork, standard gear (except no orbalisks for Bane), etc.

-Bonus Round: If Team 1 loses, Malak becomes amped by the Star Forge. If Team 2 loses, Bane gets his orbalisks.

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I think it's fair to say Wyyrlock carries Malak both rounds to victory

Malak solos.

No love for bane I see.

Situation 1: Malak is the weak link, but I believe Wyyrlok could kill Bane quickly before Malak falls or afterwards. I believe Malgus would overwhelm him if he can close the distance or power through any illusions like Krayt did.

So I'll have to say Malgus is the survivor due to him being a pure tank. The only person with any notable teamwork capabilities is Malak and he can't really last long against anyone. Even though Bane is inexperienced, he can tank through the Force Stun.

In Situation 2: I'll say that Malak has the boost and is able to kill Bane. Then the same situation plays out where Malgus still kills one of them, probably Malak and Wyyrlok survives

Malak weak link. Team 2 wins just about every time with effort.

Team two with Malgus carrying False emperor Malgus is a BEAST

To my point:

-> If Malak vs Bane and Malgus vs Wyyrlok : Malak loose and Wyyrlok too but really hard. Team one loose.

-> If Malgus vs Malak and Bane vs Wyyrlok : Bane loose then Wyyrlok + Malak should defeat Malgus.

If SF amp Malak : he just carry all the fight. No way loosing

If Orbalisk bane : same as if no orbalisk : Bane vs Malak is a win and Wyyrlok is far more a sorcerer than a warrior so the orbalisk didn't have so great impact

Wyyrlok III and Malak.

Honestly know little of Malak's power but since everyone is saying he is the weak link then i give it to Bane & Malgus as Wyyyrlok can't do everything on his own. him Vs Malgus would be pretty close in his favour imo.

How do people reckon Malak solos?

Probably his new Exar Kun scaling.

@necromancer76:Still not seeing how that means he can solo, tbh.

I guess it all depends on how you view Exar Kun.

The Malak scaling only applies to SF Malak, it seems.

Team 1 still gets this.

I suppose you believe Wyyrlok actually contended with Krayt?

@dark-sith123: Not entirely true. If SF Malak is indeed greater than Kun, then standard Malak can’t be that far off. Unless the SF is in fact an enormous buff. Which would make KOTOR Revan’s feat more impressive.

I'm going with the Tank's on this one.

@necromancer76:

The quote says that Malak's power far outstripped Kun's own- then it asked "was cybernetic enhancement too simple an explanation", implying something else was behind it. The Star Forge. Malak being far more powerful than Kun only applies to the Star Forge. I'm not sure if Malak is more powerful than Exar without Star Forge. I don't think he is tbh.

@dark-sith123: And I agree, I don’t think standard Malak is above Kun either. I’m just saying that it seems unlikely that he’s really far away from Kun without the SF amp, based on the fact that he IS more powerful with the amp.

BANE AND MALGUS!!! I LOVE THIS MATCH UP!

@necromancer76: Malak isn't more powerful than Kun with the amp tho.

Kun had that special gauntlet that Malak wouldn't have an answer to and Malak probably couldn't adapt to Kun's unorthodox applications

Wyyrlok and Malak seem like the clear winners here.

@drape: That’s what I thought before, but there’s no denying the quote that says Malak, with the Star Forge amp, is more powerful than Exar Kun.

@necromancer76: Where is it explicitly stated?

@drape: https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/star-wars-universe-1943200/true-extend-of-power-of-star-forge-malak-1934439/?page=1

@necromancer76: That post isn't really viable. It asks if he did and only suggests he may have surpassed them. Also, Exar Kun has shown far greater destructive capabilities than Kun.

@drape: Ummmm...no. Read it again. It questions whether his cybernetic enhancements were the reason for him being better than Kun. Both options hold Malak above Kun.

And that doesn’t really matter, Darth Nihilus has shown far greater destructive capabilities than Sarasu Taalon. Is he better than Sarasu Taalon? Absolutely not.

@necromancer76: That's only bc Nihulus is a one trick pony that relied on one technique and had tons of preparation.

While Kun has shown to be able to do so with no prep.

@drape: What exactly are you referring to that he did? The fact that he couldn’t defeat his master in a duel without using a new weapon or needed an amulet to perform his most powerful combat ability?

I’m not saying he’s weak, but I think he’s a bit exaggerated.

Team 2 wins the first round very very narrowly.

Team 1 wins the second a little less closely.

Wyyrlok solos.

Bump

No one solos, lol. That's entirely baseless. As to the battle, my opinions have changed little:

Bane is simply more powerful, more physically strong, more knowledgeable, and more skilled than Malak. Malgus too, is superior to Wyyrlok physically, skill-wise, and power-wise. Wyyrlok does sport an enviable accolade in being the 2nd most powerful dark sider of his time under Krayt, but Malgus too has a similar accolade by virtue of his Dark Council status, and Malgus' era had more Sith Lords than Krayt's empire, and by a decent margin. The only area in which Wyyrlok has him beat is in TP and knowledge, and those are not enough to land him more than a few rounds.

SF Malak can give his team some extra wins however.

Bane is a weak link